Good Hate, Bad Love
Submitted by Amil Imani on Mon, 02/02/2009 - 06:11
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PDF version“Love” is thought as virtue, while “hate” is considered vice. But not all forms of love are good and not all hates are bad. If you love to set buildings on fire, molest children, or steal, these are obviously bad loves. If you hate racism, sexism or injustices of all sorts, then these are good hates.
Time and again, in response for exposing Islam for what it is, Islamists simply retort by calling me hatemonger instead of refuting my assertions.
Hence, I am bringing my case to the fair-minded public to judge. I disapprove a great deal about Islam, its founder, its theology, and the crimes it has perpetrated throughout its history, past and present.
Islam is the creation of one man, Muhammad. The man claimed he was visited many times by jinns. He also claimed that the angel Gabriel commissioned him as the emissary of the Lord of the Lords, the one and only creator of the entire universe, Allah.
Muhammad was ridiculed for reporting his nonsensical revelations (hallucinations) from Allah as an “insane poet.” His own people, the Qurish tribe, custodians of the idolatry of Mecca, eventually laughed Muhammad out of town. Yet, the illiterate Muhammad persisted in his claim and revealed the Quran in bits and pieces over some twenty years.
Islam’s rules of conduct as encapsulated in the Sharia are based on the Quran and the life of the Prophet himself. Even a cursory examination of the Quran clearly demonstrates its confused verbiage, contradictions, and primitive provisions that can hardly be word-for-word dictates of the one and only all-knowing and all-wise creator of the universe, as Muhammad claimed and Muslims blindly believe. The Quran and the Sharia are nothing more than the products of the thinking and way of life of the Arabian Peninsula of long ago, with sprinklings from the Torah and the New Testament.
Islam considers itself the only and final valid religion. It allows a bit of tolerance for the “people of the book,” Jews and Christians, and none for billions of others with different religions or no religion at all.
Islam is a cult and not a religion. It meets all the criteria of cultism by imprisoning its adherents, by dictating to them every detail of their lives, and by condemning any member to the death of apostasy for daring to leave its fold.
So, here is a short list of Islamic beliefs and practices that I abhor. In my view, it is good to hate them and demonic to love them.
▪ Islam has a caste system with the male believer on top, the female believer next in rank, followed by the male slave believer, and finally the female slave believer. I simply reject slavery, as well as stratifying people and firmly believe in equality for all.
▪ Islam is a misogynist cult where women are chattel. “Al-rejalo ghavamoon ala-alnesa,” men are rulers of women, asserts the Quran -- one of hundreds of Islamic rulings that relegate women to subservience by the virtue of their gender. Men are allowed four regular wives and numberless temporary ones, while any woman having liaison with another man is automatically condemned to death by stoning.
▪ Education is a sin for the true believers, particularly for women. It is in eradicating this sin that the Taliban in Afghanistan and Pakistan have systematically destroyed thousands of schools. To keep females away from schools, true believers raze schoolhouses to the ground and splash acid on the face of the females daring to head for school.
▪ Freedom in all its forms, highly prized by free people, is taboo in Islam. The duty of the true believer is to completely surrender his humanness and will to the will of Allah as required in the Quran and dictated by the clergy.
▪ Islam’s justice system itself is criminal. Just a few examples should suffice here. In the court of law, a woman’s testimony counts as one-half of that of a man; the due process is either absent or perfunctory; thieves are subjected to amputation of limbs; minors and homosexuals are executed; adulterers are stoned to death; apostates are executed and the families of the victims are forced to pay for the bullets that murdered their loved-ones.
▪ Under Islam, collusion between the mosque and the state makes for dehumanization of the citizenry. Any and all oppositions, be they religious, political, or otherwise are brutally suppressed. The Islamic Republic of Iran, for instance, carried out summary execution of tens of thousands of opposition and dumped their bodies in mass grave in Khavaran, outside of Tehran, without even allowing the families of the victim to perform the burial rite.
▪ Islam’s war is not limited to the living. Anything and everything that is non-Islamic is systematically subjected to elimination and destruction. Just two examples: the Buddha statues in Bamyan were dynamited by the Taliban of Afghanistan, while the cemeteries of the Baha’is in Iran are bulldozed by the Islamic Republic’s thugs.
▪ Islamic clerics believe it their right to execute people they consider heretics and place bounties on the heads of those their bloody hands cannot reach. Salman Rushdie is one of the widely known cases.
▪ Slaveholder Islam is not content to limit its inhuman barbaric system to its traditional homelands. It has penetrated millions of adherents throughout Europe, America, and much of the world. Many of the new arrivals from the failed Islamic states do not realize that it is Islam that is the root cause of their centuries of backwardness and misery. These imprinted-from-birth Muslims are robots who are programmed to do all they can in obedience to the dictates of Muhammad’s Mein Kempf, the Quran (My Ummah).
Beliefs are impetus to action. Islamic belief is the cause of the misery visited upon Muslims and non-Muslims alike. Islam’s dogma is anathema to every provision of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights
If you love the Islamic terror manual, the Quran, and what it perpetrates, that’s bad love. If you hate all the terrible things that Islam advocates and carries out, that’s good hate.
Muslims, the world over, must make a Herculean effort to de-program themselves of the barbaric ideology of Islam; the free people should assist the Muslims in this endeavor and together we can all embrace the promptings of good hate and reject the dictates of bad love.
"Muslims, the world over,
"Muslims, the world over, must make a Herculean effort to de-program themselves of the barbaric ideology of Islam; the free people should assist the Muslims in this endeavor "
Well, thank you for telling. Actually nobody was aware of this before your lofty suggestion.
Forget ideological theories, tell what you actually did towards this. Share practical experience if you have any, else stop wasting time, you moron!
Islam is xxxx.I have not
Islam is xxxx.I have not known many non moslems who love xxxx, excepting moscum bags, who love islam and so love xxxx. They keep the xxxx on their head and walk around. They love the islam more than they love their own mothers! Moscums love shit and the kafirs hate shit.The sight, stink and the presentation of this xxxx islam.You hate islam and msocum follwoers of this xxxx islam, then no one will hate you! Love to love the islam, every body hates you.
Thats in short the islamic shit ideology and why no non moslem likes the sight of this islamic evil.
Islam includes, evil rapist pedophile mo and the pimp allah, who supplied the little girls to the rapist mo.
I feel your approach is
I feel your approach is destructive. If your approach was an earnest help to Muslims then many more would have joined debate.
You want to attack their belief system, make them feel bad so that they leave their faith. That is herculean.
Remember all ills that Islam has is because of the tight grip of the clergy on common mass.
Let me give you an example. If you think Islam is evil then fighting against it will sooner or later turn you into evil as well. I can see it sometimes in the anger contained in authors or commentators.
Islam needs reforms and probably pushes from inside. Killing or attacking extremists is doomed for failure.
For all its evilness Islam
For all its evilness Islam was accepted by the ones who fought most against
it. Genghis Khan perhaps can be indicator. So Fight and you will soon realise.
Dear Wasim, You strike me as
Dear Wasim,
You strike me as a wise person.
If you can see all that about Islam and what's going on, please tell me why are you still a muslim? Is because of the fear of an eternal firy hell that keeps you in the fold?
xxxx Mullah Amim You are
xxxx Mullah Amim
You are spending a lot of time on kaffir documents, what did you do to your Koran? Beard monkey, did you finish it wiping your bottoms? Such a xxxxx you are.
Last time you were talking about merits of your circumcised dick to seek houries right here. Such a luccha you are.
Allright allright.Islam means
Allright allright.Islam means peace and it is a peaceful religion that teaches you to love all the non moslems and treat them(non moslems) kindly.Islam teaches one to take care of the orphan children of islamic and non islamic people.islam teaches you tolerance.islam says even if your enemies spit at you and curse you, love them and lead them towards kind compassionate allah. never raise a finger to hurt the nonmoslems.Donate a part of your income to the betterment of humanity including all. moslems and non moslems are all the same human beings and do not be harsh to them.
islam tells you never to lie, cheat,Islam teaches you to respect little girls and boys.Never sleep with very young boys or girls.Islam teaches you not to have sex with little girls and never to have slaves or sex with them,
Islam teaches not to harm the women captured in wars.Islam teaches you to respect women and not to cover them from head to toe and beyond.
islam teaches you to be docile and obedient to your kafir masters.Islam tecahes you not to behead the kafirs.Islam teaches you to acquire knowledge by any means and all means.islam demands that moslem be educated.Islam inspires the moslems scientists to win nobel prizes in large numbers.( 5 from a population o 1 billion!) Lo and behold islam teaches you to be a perfect human being just like the child rapist mohammad? there we are feelin better?
Wasim Changez Khan did not
Wasim
Changez Khan did not fight Islam, he conquered territories. His expeditions were political. He turned muslim though (perhaps to seek solace or expiations of so much bloodshed that he did).
Because of his evilness, Genghis Khan found Islam as natural choice.
To Wasim: When the house is
To Wasim:
When the house is on fire, you don't whisper to the sleepers to wake up, you scream as loudly as you can. A more gentle tone and approach doesn't work in this case. Shock therapy is what needed. But, thanks for your kind and considerate suggestion.
AMIM no I am a Hindu and not
AMIM no I am a Hindu and not the least bit offended...And also don't worry you are safe no harm will come to you...Unlike the number of people killed by your umma over a cartoon....Now would you like toknow about what is in the Koran...
Koran 5:33-34 The only reward
Koran 5:33-34
The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom; Save those who repent before ye overpower them. For know that Allah is Forgiving, merciful.
Koran 9:29
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last day, nor hold the forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and his messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jiziyah (tax for non-muslims) with willing submission. And feel themselves subdued.
Koran 98:1-8
The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures.
Koran 22:19-22:23
Garments of fire have been prepared for the unbelievers. Scalding water shall be poured upon their heads, melting their skins and that which is in their bellies. They shall be lashed rods of iron. Whenever, in their anguish, they try to escape from Hell, back they shall be dragged, and will be told: ‘Taste the torment of the Conflagration!’
Koran 18:28-30
For the wrongdoers We have prepared a fire which will encompass them like the walls of a pavilion. When they cry out for help they shall be showered with water as hot as molten brass, which will scald their faces. Evil shall be their drink, dismal their resting-place.
Who are the “wrong-doers” here ? None other than the people who DO NOT follow Islam. So Muhamad here continues with his hallucination and gives the description of Islamic Hell in the form of a revelation.
Koran 40:67-40:73
Do you not see how those who dispute the revelation of God turn away from the right path ? Those who have denied the Book and the message We sent through Our apostles shall realize the truth hereafter: when, with chains and shackles round their necks, they shall be dragged through scalding water and then burnt in the fire of Hell.
Prophet Mohammed here explains what will happen to those people who choose NOT to follow his revelation “Quran”- a manual of plunder, rape and kill. So for people of other religions following scriptures other than Quran, Allah has pre-planned punishment. First they shall be dragged through scalding water with chains around their necks and then they will be burnt in the fire of Hell. Allah is truly merciful !!
Koran 44:40-49
..The fruit of the Zaqqum tree shall be the unbeliever’s fruit. Like dregs of oil, like scalding water, it shall simmer in his belly. A voice will cry: ‘Seize him and drag him into the depths of Hell. Then pour out scalding water over his head, saying: “Taste this, illustrious and honorable man! This is the punishment which you have doubted.”
Koran 52:1-52:15
..On that day they shall be sternly thrown into the fire of Hell, and a voice will say to them: ‘This is the Fire which you denied…Burn in its flames. It is the same whether or not you show forbearance. You shall be rewarded according to your deeds.’
Koran 31-37
And burn ye him in the blazing fire. Further, make him march in a chain, whereof the length is seventy cubits. This was he that would not believe in allah Most high and would not encourage the feeding of the indignant. So no friend hath he here this day. Nor hath he any food except the corruption from the washing of wounds.
8:39: “And fight them until there is no more disbelief in Islam and the religion will all be for Allâh Alone…”
There are hundreds of other Ayat in the Quran which show the merciful nature of Islam, especially for the non-Muslims.
Now since both Hinduism and Islam are violent and agianst humanity I am willing to leave Hinduism and become an atheist are you
Wasim Who told you that we
Wasim
Who told you that we dont have many muslims on the Forum. We have plenty of them in the Forum. Before FFI was rewamped I rember hving debated hundreds of Muslims.
Many of them have left Islam ever since and are helping others in real life to leave Islam.
Wasim you feel that we are intolerant, that's funny considering the Qur'an which teaches to kill and main the kuffar is the book you believe in, and you are calling us intolerant. That's kinda funny Wasim. We give equal opportunities to all people to discuss things unless they are not paranoid and hateful. Of course if you begin cursing others don't expect sympathy from them. Moreover Muslims are burning flags, destroying embassies.
Has any1 even threatened you once in this Forum, so how exactly are you calling our approach as wrong and intolerant, Wasim. And yes kindly stick to specifics and if you have a point to make make it through proofs.
If you think that we are being intolerant towards Muslims, the prove how is that happening.
By the way if you really want to meet Muslims and ex-Muslims, you are welcome to the Forum. we don't follow the Sharia there, which asks people to cut of the hands feet and heads of those who ask questions, but simple rules of Dao.
If you are really interested in a discussion, you are welcome and I will myself guide you to the Forum.
AMIN You take care and mind
AMIN
You take care and mind your words before your Ip is banned permanently from FFI. You are more trouble than we require here and we certainly can keep up with your rants. If you don't stop, believe me you will be kicked out of here before you will realize.
Many people have met with a similar fate before, most of them were abusive Muslims and and few stupid non-Muslims too. Take care sweetheart before the moderator has enough of you and decides to throw you out.
Wasim You see anger in the
Wasim
You see anger in the authors and commentators. Tell me Wasim, give some good reason why should people excatly love Muslims. I mean if somewhere down the there happens to a full blow war, the blame will squarely be on the shoulders of Muslims.
So its better to make Muslims hear things that hurt them, rather than make them victims of terrible destruction and war.
I know what exactly you are talking of when you speak of the clergy, most of the power mongers in India and Pakistan are the Sayyeds, who are still controlling te ordinary Muslims. They don't allow to them see things beyond what they want them to see. This is why they need Forums like these to learn, and many have learned in the past.
I used to think pretty much like you till three years back. Now I am beginning to see things from the other end of the spectrum.
AMIM good to see you why
AMIM good to see you
why people turn to isalm in india
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/chander-mohan-trapped-me-through-smses...
Go Ibrahim Go
Go Ibrahim Go
AMIN You take care and mind
AMIN
You take care and mind your words before your Ip is banned permanently from FFI. You are more trouble than we require here and we certainly can keep up with your rants. If you don’t stop, believe me you will be kicked out of here before you will realize.
Many people have met with a similar fate before, most of them were abusive Muslims and and few stupid non-Muslims too. Take care sweetheart before the moderator has enough of you and decides to throw you out.
Don’t throw him out, if you do or edit him, how will people know about the mentality of the followers of Islam. When I came to this site first, it struck me that Mr. Sinha and others using logic, reason and facts from the Koran to put a point across and they were met with such violent and profane language that it immediately gave so much of credibility to the words of Mr. Sinha and the others. The same should apply here I appeal to all pro FFI site writers to behave civilly and they "The Believers" will hang themselves. The comments here are the first impression that a new visitor gets and this differentiates FFI from other Islam bashing sites.
A-MIM has gone nuts and is
A-MIM has gone nuts and is going around town barking like a mad dog. Some body please call the mad dog disposal squad.
Amim,A debate should be
Amim,A debate should be always done in letter and spirit. I am sometimes so sad that why do the clergy fill poison in Muslims.See that guy Kasab who went bonkers in India. Now India and Pakistan stand at cross roads of history.
India has had Muslim presidents in past and even the current prime minister seems non Hindu.
As a pakistani I sometimes envy India. The sindhis and baluchis share a lot with them. I first of all do not agree with this web site because attacking the way they are attacking Islam will probably strengthen the same very forces who are pulling Muslims backwards. And secondly I am stunned that no Muslim here is debating, they only seem to be offended.
Let us explore Islam and find if what the authors say is meant to be or are they simply propaganda. I am sure a religion that spread amongst billion people and still inviting the so called logical foreigners is not about hate.
Its uneducation and not Islam that makes Muslims behave sometime irrationally. Its political Islam and not Islam which makes them to be seen as fundamentalists.
Wasim, a question for you, Do
Wasim,
a question for you, Do you guys get taught about mohenjudaro and harappa civilization? I mean that was one of the ancient civilizations and i doubt if that ever gets taught to pakistani people given the fact that it has surrendered its sovereignity to Saudi long time back.
I was just reading the other day on thenews.co.pk or on the dawn that swat was very rich and peaceful when its people followed buddism so much so that some chinese traveller was mighty impressed with it .. and see what islam has done to it.. It has become a medieval town where beheadings and killing people has become norm.. not only that the dead bodies are desecrated in the town centre.. and what is astonishing is no muslim is coming out on the streets ..
if there was just one muslim killed by an irate hindu/jew, there will be 1000's of muslims on the streets all over the world especially Europe ..
In Pakistan, can a non-muslim become president? i don;t think so
Hello Brother Ibrahim, Sorry
Hello Brother Ibrahim,
Sorry I missed the other day. I was in LaLa Land brother. take care
By the way, Is this a fine article or what? Thank you author
peoudkafir wrote: "Islam is
peoudkafir wrote:
"Islam is xxxx.I have not known many non moslems who love xxxx, excepting moscum bags, who love islam and so love xxxx. They keep the xxxx on their head and walk around. They love the islam more than they love their own mothers! Moscums love shit and the kafirs hate shit.The sight, stink and the presentation of this xxxx islam.You hate islam and msocum follwoers of this xxxx islam, then no one will hate you! Love to love the islam, every body hates you.
Thats in short the islamic shit ideology and why no non moslem likes the sight of this islamic evil.
Islam includes, evil rapist pedophile mo and the pimp allah, who supplied the little girls to the rapist mo."
Islamic countries like Egypt and Saudi Arabia have the highest percentage of people who visit pornographic websites. In Saudi Arabia, the young people download it onto their cellphones to carry around.
Islam and xxx go together. example: Read the rants of AMIM and other Muslims.
Excellent article.
Wow, this is the first thread
Wow, this is the first thread that is AMIM free!
Hey AMIM, are you ok?
Hope you haven't gotten yourself banned.
Please don't do those long C&P; my finger is crampping from scrolling down past your posts.
Cheers and did you take my advice and had a good lay?
Wasim What you are saying is
Wasim
What you are saying is totally flawed. Look at the recent terrorist attacks in India. The masterminds was a person earning Rs. 25 lakh a year. If you are a Pakistani, you will realise that it is very big money.
Look at the profile of Al-Qaeda. It boasts of doctors, engineers, proffessionals as amogst its carders. Look at Usama Bin laden, he himself is a qualified engineer. Look at the statements he makes.
You know Wasim, when I read what you say, it reminds me of who I was two years back. I hope you will be standing in my shoes after two more years aor maybe even before.
As far as exploring Islam is concerned, we are ready to walk the extra mile if you will as much as raise your foot.
In my native Kashmir the eductaed people are getting themselves recruited more in the Jihadi oraganistaions that the uneducated. Look at their profiles, doctors engineers, architects. All qualified people. If they dont dierctly become terrorists, then they become their sympatheizers. They fund their activities, shelter them. Are these people any less responsible.
As far as Sindhis and Baloch
As far as Sindhis and Baloch people concerned, yes they share a common history with us Indians, as do you Wasim. IF you are a punjabi you might deny the truth. But cmmon, lets face the facts. We share the same gene pool, the same languages. Yet Pakistan wants to harm Indian in every way possible.
If Indian retaliates, Pakistan starts cursing us. Tell me Wasim, is it fair?
Wasim Gehghis Khan never
Wasim
Gehghis Khan never accepted Islam. Who told you that, he lived and died a Shamman. Its was his great grandson Kublai Khan who became a Muslim. The Turks or mongols have accepted all sorts of religions at different sorts of times. They were Christians, Shammans, Buddhists and finally Muslims.
So there is no big deal in the Turks or the Mongols accepting Islam. For them religion was not of important, it was the state that was more imporatant. They adopted any religion which helped them to run the state sucessfully.
As for Genghis Khan, he was not an enemy of Islam or Muslims. I have written an article in Islam-Watch and FFI on this man. It would be good if you get a glimse of that article.
Besides you could refer the hundreds of books which have been written on Genghis Khan.
Wasim and Ibrahim: The
Wasim and Ibrahim:
The following link mentions Kublai Khan as devout buddhist:
http://www.history.com/encyclopedia.do?articleId=214106
Ghengis Khan was never a muslim. He lived and died in his indigenous religion of Shamanism or Tengrism.
I hope it will be of help in your discussions.
Thanks Kam Basksh, I got it
Thanks Kam Basksh, I got it wrong there. I hope you dont mind my asking so, but are u Baloch?
Thanks Kam Basksh, I got it
Thanks Kam Basksh, I got it wrong there. I hope you dont mind my asking so, but are u Baloch or sindhi
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