God's delicate skin

oh moh (Puke be upon him)

Ali Sina's description is very evocative.I was reminded of The story of Emperor's new Clothes when he spoke of Allah being an idol-an idol that cannot be seen.I don't mind People worshipping such an idol,or following a prophet who talks about such a thing as long as they clearly demarcate the good from the bad/ugly.

To Ali Sina and his supporters;

Four statements can be made about Islam:

1. Islam is a true religion, but some people found it not to be a true religion.
2. Islam is not a true religion, but some people found it not to be a true religion.
3. Islam is a true religion, but some people found it to be a true religion.
4. Islam is not a true religion, but some people found it to be a true religion.

According to logic the following is always true:

Category 1: if T==>F, False argument
Category 2: if F==>F, Correct argument
Category 3: if T==>T, Correct argument
Category 4: if F==>T, Correct argument

The arguments presented by non Muslims against Islam on this web site fit the 1st Category. Solid evidence must be presented to prove Islam is wrong. To the contrary, no evidence was presented to prove that Islam is wrong. Hence, one must conclude that the arguments given against Islam were wrong and misleading.

you make an assumption with your first argument.

please do prove to us/me that Islam is a true religion. your logic may be good but your premise remains unproven.

please do not refer to the Quran or the Hadith or Mohammed as proof of anything. That would be a circular argument. The text does not prove itself.

"If God exists he does not need our prayer."

Of course not the sort of ritualistic prostrating prayers five times a day of which muslims do to appease their deity.

But if God exist, we certainly have to pray to Him, why shouldn't we? It is kind of a kid and his unconditionally loving father but still a kid, as a matter of relationship, will occasionally pat the back of his father or ask something from him. The father is going to grant that, not only because his kid has asked, but also because he wants to show and maintain his love relationship with the kid. Christians love God because God unconditionally loves us. I pray to God, as a matter of expressing relationship. I may not pray to God but still I know God loves me and will grant my need if He wills.

Now the question of eternal fiery hell for those who do not pat the back of God is irrelevant in the love relationship. It is just wonders me when I notice that one of the reason people are atheists is because Yahweh promises to throw people in hell who do not bow to his ego. But it seems ludicrous to me to reject God's love for the pretext of hell. Atheists do not see the love of God, they only see God's anger. It is kind of commiting suicide because you have seen other people dying and you hate to see that, so you resolve to commit suicide.

It is important for everyone to understand here that the idea that God will throw people to hell should not blind anyone to ignore the certainty of the existance and experience of the loving God.

In every culture, in every people there has always been belief. Sometimes one belief gets swept away and is replaced by another. Sometimes by no belief at all.

It has always come back and always will come back. To dismiss people of belief as fools is too simple. The minority has always been the atheist. This is not because they are somehow 'superior' over others. This is because that is their choice. It is also a simple choice, same as a simple choice to believe.

It is one thing to leave Islam. But how does one get Islam to leave the person?

There are two things certain in this life.
1.The uncertainity and impermanency of this life is certain.
2.Every belief has the root in the uncertainity of this life! Nothing in this world is certain.Everything perishes.This is what worries a thinking humanbeing.He is scared about the end and moslems are paranoid about this.So they have this convenient bogey of allah and the rapist mohammad who promises them 72 virgins and 28 boys to screw eternally after this life.So in anticipation many moslems kill others and some kill themselves hoping to reach that jannat with 72 big brested virgins and 28 boys and hopefully a perpetual erection. Just for a second if the moslems can think( a tall order indeed) that why would god give him sex and sex and more of it just because he has killed a kafir ( the stupid allah is incapable of that is another matter) then there is room for discussion.Blinded by faithe the moslems are viewing the world through islamic prism.This not only distorts the view but also colours it the islamic colour.Blood looks green as grass for the moslem scum bags.

To Kinana;
This is to reply for Comment ID #25802
October 7, 2009 • 10:12 am

----You stated ["you make an assumption with your first argument.
please do prove to us/me that Islam is a true religion. your logic may be good but your premise remains unproven.
please do not refer to the Quran or the Hadith or Mohammed as proof of anything. That would be a circular argument. The text does not prove itself."]

++Did you ever take a class in logic? If you did then you should be able to undertand the argument. If not, then first take a class in logic and come back and debate.

To proudkafir
This in reply to your Comment ID #25834
October 7, 2009 • 11:56 am .

----You stated ["There are two things certain in this life.
1.The uncertainity and impermanency of this life is certain.
2.Every belief has the root in the uncertainity of this life! Nothing in this world is certain.Everything perishes.This is what worries a thinking humanbeing.He is scared about the end and moslems are paranoid about this.So they have this convenient bogey of allah and the rapist mohammad who promises them 72 virgins and 28 boys to screw eternally after this life.So in anticipation many moslems kill others and some kill themselves hoping to reach that jannat with 72 big brested virgins and 28 boys and hopefully a perpetual erection. Just for a second if the moslems can think( a tall order indeed) that why would god give him sex and sex and more of it just because he has killed a kafir ( the stupid allah is incapable of that is another matter) then there is room for discussion.Blinded by faithe the moslems are viewing the world through islamic prism.This not only distorts the view but also colours it the islamic colour.Blood looks green as grass for the moslem scum bags."]

++Your posting has no substance. The purpose of this web site is to proof that Islam is wrong. Yet no proof is presented. To the contrary, logic and mathematics covers many aspects of the Koran and that makes Islam the true religion. So far, all anti-Muslims propaganda have produced nothing except personal comments, opinionated articles, some tasteless cartoons and some pictures making fun of Islam. Your posting is just another propaganda. That is not a convincing evidence for me and other intelligent humans that Islam is wrong. A solid proof and valid evidence is always a must.

"It is one thing to leave Islam. But how does one get Islam to leave the person?" - Plain talk

"Everything perishes.This is what worries a thinking humanbeing" - Proudkafir

Starting with Proudkafir. Actually your point is great, but I would substitute "worry" with "concern". Muslims are worried but thinking people should be concerned with temporality.

But atheists are neither worried nor concerned. This is kind of irresponsible and undisciplined life style. They never ask themselves of the meaning of life only to replace it with the "primordial soup and evolutionary quantum jumps" and other pseudoscience mumbo-jumbo. You know it is a terrible philosophy.

Yet Islam is the worst of lifestyles in this world. Better Atheism than this dangerous, despicable, lethal and bogus Islam. The only fault with Atheism is their irresponsible life-style of taking a great deal of what God has granted in the Nature without showing, at least at the mental level, appreciation to their provider of what they get free in the Nature.

But Islam is worse in the sense that they are not only irresponsible (as they cannot hate and aspire to eliminate non-muslims who are also created by God and be responsible ones) but also they are wasting their times for a lie (as it does not make sense logically to have a wife cheater debaucher to be a prophet of an absolutely intelligent mind that designed the Universe).

So to Plain talk: Muslims have no choice. They must leave Islam immediately and Islam will immediately leave them with the help of God.

To proudchristian;
This is in reply to Comment ID #25843
October 7, 2009 • 12:49 pm

-You stated ["Yet Islam is the worst of lifestyles in this world. Better Atheism than this dangerous, despicable, lethal and bogus Islam."]

++When someone makes a claim, the claim needs to be proven. You say "Yet Islam is the worst of lifestyles in this world. Better Atheism than this dangerous, despicable, lethal and bogus Islam". Can you provide some solid evidence to support your claim aside from citing some isolated incidents?

I use Islamic teachings and its logic in every aspect of my daily activities. It never has done me any harm or caused me any problems. As a matter of fact, I never found it to be dangerous, despicable, lethal and bogus. Actually, it made me very successful here in the USA and many other countries. Like the famous, American proverb states "If it is not broken, you should never fix it". Islam has done me and many other people a lot of good. So why change from something called Islam that is perfectly fine and outstanding to something inferior.

Unless it is proven that there is anything better than Islam and unlikley will, I am sticking to my choice. That choice will always be Islam!

Islam is wrong and wreched , stupid , senseless and giberrish, dangerous and dung are all well known facts and need no proof again and again. Every non moslem, every exmoslem and every good human being has understood this long time ago except the brain dead people ( both moslems and non moslems)
No point on dvelving over it again and again.
The point is, the islam senseless thing is dangerous to others not sharing this stupid belief system.That's the issue.FFI is doing an excellent job and moslems are scared.No more hiding behind the curtain of others' ignorance about islam.Islam has been disrobed and shamed for one and all to see.
Ai last, proud christian we seem to agree! great
The islamic cess pool is stinking and the world has to correct this anamoly.Cleanse the cess pool.Sooner the better.
I shall ask this.If allah( stupid and pimp as per my calculation) is so great why he can not stop this site at all? I gave allah so many tests and challenged allah the pimp to use all his might to just stop the site.The stupid fellow failed.
Allah has been a big failure for 1400 and odd years.
Also this allah comes across as a childish, angry, bigoted, cruel, violent, women hating, pedophilic sex starved,pathetic little fellow with no compassion or honesty.I think all these perfectly fit in with mohammad's mentality.

To proudkafir;
This in reply to Comment ID #25850
October 7, 2009 • 1:16 pm

----You stated [\I shall ask this.If allah( stupid and pimp as per my calculation) is so great why he can not stop this site at all? I gave allah so many tests and challenged allah the pimp to use all his might to just stop the site.The stupid fellow failed.\]

++Your postings are so funny and show how ignorant you are. You need to educate yourself.

++Why Jesus is so helpless to change this world? Why Jesus is so helpless to find a cure for cancer or a cure for AIDS? Why Jesus can't stop earthquakes, floods and tsunamis? Can you answer these questions for me? Of course you can’t and you will never have a truthful answer. Islam on the other hand, does have a true answer for everything. It answers why we are here and why Allah created us and what is the purpose of life among so many other things that no other religion dares to answer. There are millions of Islamic websites out there, go and read about Islam and learn about it. May be then Allah will open your heart and you may see the light before it is too late for you and the others who share your agenda….

++Get out of your ignorant world and start seeking the truth. Do what billions of humans have already done and accepted Islam. The truth is Islam and it is only way to go forward……

To accept islam means to go backward! towards 7th century arabia. Kindly rspond to my questions raised else where.

"Islam has done me and many other people a lot of good."

Well, well, the Truth, I am a pragmatist and wish everyone in this world a happy and successful lives and I'm really happy to hear that you are very confortable with your lifestyle. Do you wish that to non muslims? You will answer yes and if it really comes from the bottom of your heart I do not have any problem with your lifestyle.

My problem is when Muslims shove Muhammad down my throat, who according to the Quran cheated on his wife, that he is the role model to be followed by humanity in terms of morality.

My problem is with the demon incarnated Muslims al qaedas, al shaababs and the talibans, who are busy right now slaughtering muslims and non muslim.

My problem is when you say that Islam has made you successful in the US (which is by no means Islamic) but has failed to make the majority of Pakistanis, Somalis and almost the majority Middle Easterners (which are by every means Islamic) successful.

You have got to think correctly.

1- Muslims pray to a rock !! Is that not an Idol ?
2- Muslims ask God to pray on Mohammed !! Is that not an Idol ?
3- The statement "Alahu akbar" is actually a "Allah wah akbar" which was changed to its current form. Its current form is syntactly not correct. In arabic this statement in its current form is not complete. Any person with any knowledge of Arabic knows that. What about this ?

How on earth can you say:

>> One of the key ideas of Islam, the main entity that separates the Muslims from the Christians is the idea >> of idolizing a being. That means praying to anyone except for Allah. i.e. if there is a picture for some odd >> reason, it has happened where the people started idolizing Prophet Isa (PBUH) as God incarnated. That >> is an insult to Allah. Leveling him with man.

Open your eyes and look at the mess you call Islam with a clear mind.......

To proudchristian;
This in reply to Comment ID #25866
October 7, 2009 • 2:33 pm

----You stated [\My problem is when Muslims shove Muhammad down my throat, who according to the Quran cheated on his wife, that he is the role model to be followed by humanity in terms of morality.\]
++ Do you have any evidence of that? Can you support your claim? A prove to a claim must always be presented. I can say that you are a child molester among many other things, but without proof, my claim is useless.

----You stated [\My problem is with the demon incarnated Muslims al qaedas, al shaababs and the talibans, who are busy right now slaughtering muslims and non muslim.\]
++ The actions of some people calling themselves Muslims, may not always be a true reflection to the teachings of Islam. Citing some isolated incidents done in the name of Islam does not prove that Islam is a bad or a false religion. Hitler called himself a Christian however, none of his horrible actions confirmed to the teachings of Christianity.

----You stated [\My problem is when you say that Islam has made you successful in the US (which is by no means Islamic) but has failed to make the majority of Pakistanis, Somalis and almost the majority Middle Easterners (which are by every means Islamic) successful.\]
++ It must be that they are following the teachings of some system other than Islam. That might be the reason for their failure.

----You stated [\You have got to think correctly.\]
++ Always have. That is why I chosen Islam to be religion.

The Truth, have you ever read an hadith on Muhammad affair with his wife maidservant, Maria the Copt?

Truth I am beig extremely successful both materialistically and spiritually. At least as per my yard stick.( 4 houses and 4 cars and have seen 87 countries!) I do not follow islam and have absolutely no intentions of doing do even at the point of the sword next to my carotids. I dislike allah , mohammad and his followers.Now tell me how thats possible?

To proudchristian;
This is in reply to Comment ID #25873
October 7, 2009 • 3:22 pm

----You stated ["The Truth, have you ever read an hadith on Muhammad affair with his wife maidservant, Maria the Copt?"]

++ The prophet has said so many things during his life time. Many hadith has been attributed to the Prophet after his death. However, some of those hadith are correct, others are not. Can you prove to me that "hadith on Muhammad affair with his wife maidservant" is correct and authentic? Unless such proof and evidence is presented, no statement is measured as accurate.

To proudkafir
This is in reply to Comment ID #25874
October 7, 2009 • 3:39 pm

----You stated ["Truth I am beig extremely successful both materialistically and spiritually. At least as per my yard stick.( 4 houses and 4 cars and have seen 87 countries!) I do not follow islam and have absolutely no intentions of doing do even at the point of the sword next to my carotids. I dislike allah , mohammad and his followers.Now tell me how thats possible?"]

++ I am extremely happy for you and for all your successes. Obviously Islam did not work for you and that is fine. There is no need to worry about someone "point of the sword next to my carotids". That will never happen and no one will ever force you to be a Muslim. But please don’t be such a righteous hypocrite.

Well, the story Muhammad's affair is also alluded in the Quran.

Please take your time to read this article:

http://www.faithfreedom.org/2009/06/17/the-journey-of-a-pakistani-from-a...

To the Mr. Truth, I honestly ask you at first to read carefully the articles that published in this website. At least regarding on the topics of mohammad, quran, current situation in the muslim world, treatment of women according to quran and sunnah and in the muslim society, Jihad related article and the debate between Dr. Ali Sina and other prominent muslim. You should also take the challenge of Dr.Ali Sina in which he offers 50,000 dollars. I suspect you didn't read anything published in this website and only ask to give proof anything against islam.Proof is every where dispersed in this website. The important things is that, at first you have to read the proof that are given earlier posts and think rationally. By then you should present the object which you found irrational and false.

To proudchristian
This is a reply for Comment ID #25889
October 7, 2009 • 4:27 pm

----You stated [Well, the story Muhammad’s affair is also alluded in the Quran. Please take your time to read this article:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/2009/06/17/the-journey-of-a-pakistani-from-a... ]

----Tha article states Maria, a Coptic Christian slave-girl, was another sweet heart of Muhammad. She became the sex-slave of the Prophet of Islam. According to Islamic sources, she was a very attractive young girl and she seduced Muhammad more than any of his wives. One day, Muhammad tried to send Hafsa (one of his wives) away, by telling that her father (Umar) wanted to see her. In the mean time, when Hafsa was out, Muhammad and Maria were alone in the house. This opportunity was a golden chance for Prophet of Islam to make his desire fulfilled without any disturbance. Allah was also happy, that his beloved prophet had some entertainment to ease him of his burden of the task entrusted to him for the benefit of mankind. Allah, the most wise and knower of the past and future, revealed verses to his beloved prophet to protect him and to confront the allegations from his wives.\n
++ It sounds as if the above paragraph was taken out of a pornography script. Again where is the evidence and the proof that the prophet did have an affair. The above paragraph did not present any form of proof or evidence. I can say the same thing about Jesus or anyone else. But without solid proof any claim is always considered false and inaccurate.

Well said Murtad Sahab, I totally agree with you. I am ex-muslim and now athiest (alhamdulillah)

To Murtad
This is in reply to Comment ID #25891
October 7, 2009 • 4:38 pm

----You stated ["To the Mr. Truth, I honestly ask you at first to read carefully the articles that published in this website. At least regarding on the topics of mohammad, quran, current situation in the muslim world, treatment of women according to quran and sunnah and in the muslim society, Jihad related article and the debate between Dr. Ali Sina and other prominent muslim. You should also take the challenge of Dr.Ali Sina in which he offers 50,000 dollars. I suspect you didn’t read anything published in this website and only ask to give proof anything against islam.Proof is every where dispersed in this website. The important things is that, at first you have to read the proof that are given earlier posts and think rationally. By then you should present the object which you found irrational and false."]

++ The mission of this web site is to prove that Islam is a fraud. Ali Sinner wants any Muslim to prove that Islam is right. That is like I am saying to you ” Unless you prove to me that you are not a child molester, then you must be a child molester.” or saying to a woman "Unless you prove to me or show me that you are a virgin, then are not a virgin".

++ There so many articles on this web site that cites many unfortunate incidents that happened all over the world and blame Islam for it. However, that does not mean Islam is responsible for all these unfortunate incidents. If Islam is wrong, then a good solid proof must be presented for all of us to see. Citing isolated incidents is and will never be an acceptable form of proof.

To Mohammad.A.khan
This is in reply to Comment ID #25904
October 7, 2009 • 5:01 pm .

You stated ["Well said Murtad Sahab, I totally agree with you. I am ex-muslim and now athiest (alhamdulillah)"]

Suit yourself. That is your choice!

Reply to proudchristian Comment ID #25808.

I don't think Mr. Sina is asking you to renounce the concept of God. If your concept of God is only love and no hell fire and you want to pray to him as a means of communication he does not have a problem with it. He simply said the God as represented in the Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) have Hell and Fire as an integral part of the religion. If you don't subscribe to it then it's your own religion, not Christianity.

Muslims are such hypocrites.They claim they don't bow down before idols but all of them must bow down 5 times every day & worship a blackbox called the Kabah.

Reply to: The Truth Comment ID #25905

Dr. Sina has never simply associated the mistakes made by Muslims with Islam. He did a very objective study of the scriptures and challenges believers of Islam. He always quotes things from Quran and Ahadiths and provides explanation. He some times cites horrors of current day Islamic terrorists as examples to drive his point home. He never relies on these examples. He only relies on what Mohammed did and said (inclusing Quran. I'm yet to see a any serious challenge to Dr. Sina's theory. All Muslims come and say what he said is wrong without really providing any argument. By the way one can not use Quran and Ahadith to defend them. They're the point of contest.

Reply to The Truth Comment ID #25902

This is taken from Ahadith. This story is on so many articles. If you look, you'll find the reference. If you can't you can certainly ask the editors of this site.

"It is important for everyone to understand here that the idea that God will throw people to hell should not blind anyone to ignore the certainty of the existance and experience of the loving God."

I cannot think of any statement more contradictory than this. Of course I heard this logic before. It is the logic used by psychopaths who torment you and tell you that they love you.

Reply to: The Truth Comment ID #25880

You said:

++ The prophet has said so many things during his life time. Many hadith has been attributed to the Prophet after his death. However, some of those hadith are correct, others are not.

I say:

Can you tell me what Hadiths are correct and prove to me they're correct? Just like you don't believe the Hadiths that Dr. Sina used I don't have to believe your Hadiths. Then the world will have no Hadiths.

What's your yard stick for measuring authenticity Hadiths. What I can say is these Hadiths are picked from the same book as the most popular hadiths. These did not become popular becasue they were inconvenient. Dr. Sina in one of the articles clearly indicates the basis on which these Hadiths are deemed accurate. You can read that article.

Also these Hadiths are accepted by most of the respected Islamic scholars and if you question these Hadiths you're not a Muslim. Then this site is probably not about you.

I believe I am God but I blame Jesus for this.He called us all gods & said there is only one God.Jesus called himself the Son of Man & the Son of God.I am a man,so I guess that man & God is on the same level.Jesus believed he was God & also told us to follow him & do what he does.So can he blame me for also claiming that I am God,since I am only following his example.If I am Man,which is also the collective term for the human race,therefore I am everyman & every man's soul.For without the soul there is no man.
I am God & I desire no worship because if I am every man then who shall worship me but me?
For me,God,worship his honoring myself & reminding myself of my true god nature.Because life as a human means sometimes forgetting that I created it all and I am the "all".
Worship is not about man giving his power away & submitting to someone else.There is no one else except me.I am every human,every fauna & flora,every atom,molecule.I am it all.All worship is remembarnce of me.
I AM THAT WHICH I AM!!!

Bill Gates, the world's richest man is an atheist.
Why did God give him so much?

To Ram
This is in reply to Comment ID #25917
October 7, 2009 • 5:33 pm .

----You stated ["Dr. Sina has never simply associated the mistakes made by Muslims with Islam. He did a very objective study of the scriptures and challenges believers of Islam. He always quotes things from Quran and Ahadiths and provides explanation. He some times cites horrors of current day Islamic terrorists as examples to drive his point home. He never relies on these examples. He only relies on what Mohammed did and said (inclusing Quran. I’m yet to see a any serious challenge to Dr. Sina’s theory. All Muslims come and say what he said is wrong without really providing any argument. By the way one can not use Quran and Ahadith to defend them. They’re the point of contest."]

++ The mission of this web site is to prove that Islam is a fraud. The burden of proof lies on whoever made the accusation that Islam is a fraud. This is how logic works. Ali Sinner accuses Islam of being a fraud. He needs to prove his claim. Yet, he failed to prove his claim. The only thing he has done so far is showing us some isolated incidents that happen in many diferent parts of the world.

++ Ali Sinner can not logically and mathematically ask anyone to prove his claim for him. That is like I am telling you "Unless you prove to me that you are not a child molester, then you must one." or I ask a woman "Unless you prove to me that you are a virgin, then you must not be a virgin." Of course neither you nor she will honor my claim for it is indecent and an illogical.

++ That is the twisted and incorrect logic that Ali Sinner uses. One only has to study logic to see the fallacies in his arguments.

Dr. Sina,

I was very intrigued by your knowledge about Hinduism, when you said "At least Krishna said, people pray to different gods but irrespective of whom they pray to, I will answer their prayer. This makes sense. If a hungry dog barks at a door of a vacant house, will you not feed him because he barked at the wrong door? Will you throw a stone at him for missing your door?"

I myself like Advaita Vedanta theory which forms the basis for the the stuff Krishna said. That's atleast intellectual.

But over the years I have become skeptical about Krishna as a person. I have a feeling the scriptures were written after having accepted the notion that Krishna is the Lord which made anything he did beyond critical inspection. I don't know if you know about his affairs and non-conforming decisions and actions.

Dear Ram,

You didn't get my point well. I perfectly understand that Christianity prescribe the concept of Hell and of course I'm a Christian in the real sense of what it means. All I'm saying is that although Christianity teaches that there will be a Hell but to me the certainty of the existance of Chritian Love, Christian Heaven, Christian Hope, Christian Jesus is far mor attractive than the idea of Hell. People do not live by pessimism even for a second, they only live through Hope and optimism. That is what I meant in my comment above.

If people can show optimism and be certain to earn a better living in this world to escape "hell on Earth", why can't this logic be applied in Spirituality? Do you get my point?

Reply to the so-called Truth

yes i am ex muslim and now athiest. I used the term "alhamdulillah" because it is a gesture of joke. I really hate muslims now because i have come to know Islam is nothing but a fraud religion. Ram has a very good approach regarding to which hadith is accurate and which not to the muslims of present time. Now muslims of today will decide which hadith should be removed from the compilation of Bukhari, Muslim, ibn Dawood, and traditions of ibn Ishaq and Tabri... I can laugh out loud...

Hi, ProudKafir, I want to tell you I am enjoying your posts of 7 okt.

With this humoristic wordplay in them:
"FFI is doing an excellent job and moslems are scared.No more hiding behind the curtain of others’ ignorance about islam. Islam has been disrobed and shamed for one and all to see.
To accept islam means to go backward! towards 7th century arabia."

And: "At last, proud christian we seem to agree! Great. " For this I am truly grateful.

The Truth is very strong, he is much for proof and logic and providing evidence for all claims you make. So I asked HIM for proof and this is what he answered:

"You stated that you want a proof of the following:

[In this bad economy, so called Dr Ali Sina needs some money. He is not qualified to teach at any University because he never earned his Ph.D. As a result, no University will accept him. So to make some money, he wrote some jargon about Islam that lacks proof and evidence. Ali Sina believes that there is a sucker born every minute. So he created this web site to those suckers who will enjoy the jargon written on it. His only cause is to scam as many people as possible out of their hard earned money. And to make it easier to scam, let us not forget that he accepts visa, mastercard, Discover and AMEx.
Nice scam to make a quick buck!]

Here it is:
1. Ali Sina never earned a Ph.D. That is a fact.
2. He sells unauthenticated, opinionated book . He must need some money.
3. By fabricating, publishing false events and lying to people for money, that is defined as scamming.
4. Look at the top right hand side of the website, he does accept Visa, Mastercard, Discover and AMEX."

Now, I really do not think that he with this answer lives up to the high standards that he demands of us.

Proudchristian.

Non-believers are against the vengeful nature of god because that is all god could muster, you talked about no-believers rejection of god because of god's promised torture for eternity, this is only a little part of the rejection, you said no-believers should look at the loving side of god, but I have not seen an unbiased love for the whole humanity, if an Indonesian Muslim is fortunate to get millions so is a canadian non-believer, if a Vatican priest is fortunate to have his wishes come true, so are several people from different religious background, this is the same ting with pain, it afflicts the whole people of the world indiscriminately, prayers is fulfilled only by sheer luck or by the very individual lying to himself/herself that somehow answered it or he will answer later, all a cop-out.

Very good article, I hope you will re-read it to understand what it says, you believe because you want to believe, you don't have anything credible to hold onto, you are just a child of circumstances who refuses to grow and accept reality for what it is, I know, no evidence whatsoever apart from coercion through threats it takes guts to admit truth sometimes, but you should try it.

Praying without working is playing without knowing------

To Ram
This in reply to Comment ID #25924
October 7, 2009 • 5:46 pm .

----You stated ["Can you tell me what Hadiths are correct and prove to me they’re correct? Just like you don’t believe the Hadiths that Dr. Sina used I don’t have to believe your Hadiths. Then the world will have no Hadiths.
What’s your yard stick for measuring authenticity Hadiths. What I can say is these Hadiths are picked from the same book as the most popular hadiths. These did not become popular becasue they were inconvenient. Dr. Sina in one of the articles clearly indicates the basis on which these Hadiths are deemed accurate. You can read that article.
Also these Hadiths are accepted by most of the respected Islamic scholars and if you question these Hadiths you’re not a Muslim. Then this site is probably not about you."]

++ There are so many books on hadith. Some are valid, others are not. Some are translated, other are not. Ali Sinner picks and choose as he pleases to make his argument work. Also, how do you define the so called respected Islamic scholars? Can you name a few? Not every one who calls himself an Islamic scholar is indeed so.

plain talk
Comment ID #25811
"The minority has always been the atheist. This is not because they are somehow ’superior’ over others.”

I never believed or implied anywhere that atheists are superior. Most atheists are believers in atheistic religions. They pick other idols to worship and are just as prone to be fooled as religious people. Communism (International socialism) , Nazism (national socialism), Liberalism (Vanilla Socialism) fascism are atheistic religions and they are perhaps more evil than theistic ones. Most people who fell under the charm of a freak narcissist like Obama were atheists and non religious people. The stupidity of these people exceeds that of the religious people. At least Christianity is safe. Those who fall out of it often look for savors that are far more dangerous than what they leave behind.

Living without belief is not easy. Not everyone can do that. People want to believe in something. Certainty gives peace of mind. It is much easier to be a believer than a doubter. Most people, and by most I mean 99.999% of them want to believe in something, whether it is a god or a man or an ideology that will save them.

To Demsci
This in reply to Comment ID #25931
October 7, 2009 • 5:57 pm

----You stated ["Now, I really do not think that he with this answer lives up to the high standards that he demands of us."]

Can you prove to me that any of the the folowing facts is not true about Ali Sinner:

1. Ali Sinner never earned a Ph.D. That is a fact.
2. He sells unauthenticated, opinionated book . He must need some money.
3. By fabricating, publishing false events and lying to people for money, that is defined as scamming.
4. Look at the top right hand side of the website, he does accept Visa, Mastercard, Discover and AMEX.
5. He wrote some jargon about Islam that lacks proof and evidence.

To Mohammad.A.khan
This a reply to Comment ID #25930
October 7, 2009 • 5:57 pm .

----You stated ["yes i am ex muslim and now athiest. I used the term “alhamdulillah” because it is a gesture of joke. I really hate muslims now because i have come to know Islam is nothing but a fraud religion. Ram has a very good approach regarding to which hadith is accurate and which not to the muslims of present time. Now muslims of today will decide which hadith should be removed from the compilation of Bukhari, Muslim, ibn Dawood, and traditions of ibn Ishaq and Tabri… I can laugh out loud…"]

++So what is your point? You write too much but no substance. Obviously, Islam did not work for you. Good bye. However, Islamic teachings work very well for me. That is a choice I have made and I am sticking to my choice.

When it comes to death caused by our own stupidity like Islam and Nazism, I can see no other excuse but our own undoing. What happened on 9-11 was not a one day event but successions of stupid decisions from the people whom we have given authority to protect our national security. It is the total accumulation of years of cowardice. We ought to know Islam from the very beginning of its inception but, no, we have to say Islam is peace. The blame is on us and not God for failing to recognize evil. Those people died because of us. The same cowardice happened during the holocaust. Such failure to recognize evil extends even further that those who don’t believe in God would rather believe in conspiracy theories and defend the real culprit which is Islam.

If destroying idols is fine then what is wrong in the supposed stories of Quran being destroyed? Is Quran a Living being? If you can not make partners anywhere then why so much a fuss about destruction of a book? So much fuss that you can kill innocent children and then justify why you perperated that attack.

To freedomfighter67
This is in reply to Comment ID #25942
October 7, 2009 • 6:46 pm

----You stated [ When it comes to death caused by our own stupidity like Islam and Nazism, I can see no other excuse but our own undoing. What happened on 9-11 was not a one day event but successions of stupid decisions from the people whom we have given authority to protect our national security. It is the total accumulation of years of cowardice. We ought to know Islam from the very beginning of its inception but, no, we have to say Islam is peace. The blame is on us and not God for failing to recognize evil. Those people died because of us. The same cowardice happened during the holocaust. Such failure to recognize evil extends even further that those who don’t believe in God would rather believe in conspiracy theories and defend the real culprit which is Islam.]

++ What the tragedy of 9-11 has to do with Islam? Do you have some evidence that the tragedy of 9-11 was because of the teachings of Islam? If so, please shed some light on the issue.

Just like the light of a moon on a full moon night can get reflected in a river, pond, gutter or a small hole similarly God reflects itself in all living beings. It can be a man, woman, animal or a tree. We all are forms of that great power. In a way we all are God. We are all partners to that great power. If we can't be worshipped God does not demand worship as well. He may just want us to realise that great power in us which is Godly.

It takes a Wafa sultan to see killing of an eye doctor, Idi Amin to see a fellow student being killed, an Anwar Sheikh to kill three human beings and a Kamran to see the behaviour of his fellow brothers before we all realised that Islam is a lie. Yes, in a way posting pictures of Mohammed is an offence because pictures of a Liar need no such big attention.

"but I have not seen an unbiased love for the whole humanity, if an Indonesian Muslim is fortunate to get millions so is a canadian non-believer, if a Vatican priest is fortunate to have his wishes come true, so are several people from different religious background, this is the same ting with pain, it afflicts the whole people of the world indiscriminately"

BD, I think you should have beeen grateful to God for this! That He provides unbiasedly to all His people He has created even to those who aren't comfortable with Him. In fact, Jesus, who knows God more than anyone will ever know said about something similar to this. That God shows His love unconditionally even to sinners. It rains to debaucherers and pornstars as it does to Mother Theresa and the Saints. So you see God is much better than you rather seems to think about Him.

If you have read something in the Bible that shows God to be somehow a vengeful monster, it is because you interprete it narrowly. God has never changed. The way He was during the OT times is the way He is today. He is God, sovereign over all people, He loves us all unconditionally, He punishes us all and He comforts us all. If you dont like an idea of a punishing God, that does not make God less than real. You better choose to relate with God in love rather than live with animosity with God who loves you.