DISTORTION OF INDIAN HISTORY FOR MUSLIM APPEASEMENT, Part 5C
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By Dr Radhasyam Brahmachari
What Akbar really was:
When the Part 5A of the current series of articles DISTORTION OF INDIAN HISTORY FOR MUSLIM APPEASEMENT, was posted on the FFI, a reader commented, “Historians site two historic rulers of India as ‘the great’. One is Buddhist Asoka. The next is Muslim Akbar. The subcontinent has been the abode of Hindus throughout history, but why has there not been a single Hindu ruler who could earn the honorific ‘The great’? Why couldn’t Hinduism produce one? What is wrong with Hinduism?” In this context, I would request the reader to note that Hindus do not write Holy Vedas, Holy Upanishads or Holy Bhagavadgita and so on, because the Hindu religious scriptures are really holy.
In a similar manner, almost all the Hindu kings were great and hence it is unnecessary to tag them as great. We should quote the comment of another reader, in this regard. He writes, “Unfortunately the Indian History was written by the British colonialists and they wanted to show that British Empire was the best thing for India and after independence Leftist took over. In fact, there were innumerable great Hindu kings. … Alexander although was able to defeat Porus, a Hindu king, but the fight was so frightening that his soldiers revolted for any further attack on India and thus he started moving backward from there to Greek.” In this context, it should be said that Alexander was badly defeated by King Porus at the Battle of the Hydaspes River. Particularly, the Greek army failed completely to defend the attack by trained elephants of Porus. Moreover, Alexander suffered a mortal wound in that battle which caused his death at Babylon . The Hollywood film Alexander, directed by Oliver Stone, confirms this fact.
However, it should also be mentioned that the history of India , which we read in the history books, has been written according to the guidelines set by the British occupiers and those British rulers were Hindu bashers. But somehow or rather, they could not ignore the greatness of Emperor Ashok. It is to be noted here that the so called secular historians of India try to project Akbar even greater than Emperor Ashok. While commenting on this aspect, V A Smith writes, “Akbar would have laughed at the remorse felt by Ashok for the miseries caused by the conquest of Kalinga, and would have utterly condemned his great predecessor’s decision to abstain from all further wars of aggression.” [1]
We should quote here the comment of another author regarding the greatness of Akbar. He writes, “The personality and nature of Akbar has been nicely summed up by the Editor of Father Monserrate's Commentarius. The editor's introduction states, "In the long line of Indian sovereigns, the towering personalities of Ashoka and Akbar (because of his dread) stand high above the rest... Akbar's greed for conquest and glory and his lack of sincerity form a marked contrast to Ashoka's paternal rule, genuine self-control and spiritual ambition. Akbar's wars were those of a true descendent of Timur, and had all the gruesome associations which this fact implies. … His character with its mixture of ambition and cunning has now been laid bare. He has been rightly compared to a pike in a pond preying upon his weaker neighbours.” [2] He also writes, “With his treacherous nature and the unlimited power than he wielded over a vast region qualifies him to be one of the foremost tyrants and sadists in India 's history, or perhaps, even world history. He was no less cruel a tyrant than any of his ancestors.” [2]
The so called secular historians of India also assert that, since Akbar was born and died in India , he must be accepted as an Indian monarch. In this context, V A Smith writes, “Akbar was a foreigner in India . He had not a drop of Indian blood in his veins.” [3] To elaborate this point, P N Oak writes, “Akbar was a direct descendant in the 7th generation on his father’s side from Tamerlain (or Taimur) and on the mother’s side from Chengiz Khan.” [4] He also writes, “Intemperance was the besetting sin of the Timuroid royal family, as it was of many other ruling Muslim houses. …Babur was an elegant toper. … Humayun made himself stupid with opium. …Akbar permitted himself the practice of both vices.” [5]
Whosoever has studied even a bit of Islam, has seen that the concepts like nationality, nationalism, patriotism or love for the motherland etc are absent in Islam. On the contrary, Islam imposes the concept of Millat and Kufr and divides the entire humanity into two groups, namely Momems (or Muslims) and Kafirs. The aggregate of all the Muslims is called Islamic Umma. As a result, Muslims have no loyalty to the country where they live. They have loyalty to the Islamic Umma and to the Islamic holy places, Mecca and Medina . From this view point, even the converted Muslims, who live in India , are not Indians. They have no loyalty to India and to its history and culture, and that is the reason, they refuse to sing India ’s National Song “Vande Mataram” (I worship my motherland). They are loyal to Allah, loyal to Islam and Islamic Umma, and loyal to Mecca and Medina . They can be called resident non-Indians but not Indians. So it is not difficult to understand that Akbar’s Indian-ness is a myth.
Another reader has expressed a completely different view. He writes, “Why would historians paint Akbar good to please Muslims doesn’t make sense. Because, Akbar was not a Muslim himself. He was the follower of Din e Elahi, a religion founded by himself which had elements of Hinduism and Islam in it. Just because he had a Muslim name doesn’t make him Muslim.” In this context, it should be said that Akbar preached his religion at the fag end of his life and hence through most of his life, he was a Muslim. If a robber commits robbery throughout his life and abandons it just before his death, should he be called a robber or an innocent gentleman! Despite his preaching of his new religion Din-i-Ilahi, many believe that “Akbar was born a muslim, lived like a muslim and died as a muslim; that too a very fanatic one.” [2]
At this point, it should be made clear that, Akbar preached his new religion Din-i-Ilahi not out of his respect for other religion, but for his personal glorification. He wanted to be a prophet, like Muhammad, by inventing and floating this new religion. “He understood the trick of Muhammad and wanted to be another Muhammad with a new religion din-i-Ilahi”, says a commentator. In this context, we should mention another aspect of Akbar’s life that reflects his intense desire to project himself as a religious personality. Xavier, a Jesuit in Akbar's court, gives a typical instance of Akbar's perfidy in making people drink water in which his feet had been washed. [2] While commenting on this aspect, V A Smith writes, “Xavier writes, Akbar posed "as a Prophet, wishing it to be understood that he works miracles through healing the sick by means of the water in which he washed the feet." [6]
To lure the Hindus to his new religion, he proposed to repeal Jejya (Poll Tax) and pilgrimage tax and ban of cow slaughter. But they were never implemented. So the author of Akbar: The Great Tyrannical Monarch writes, “The infamous Jiziya tax, which is special tax exaction from the Hindus, was never abolished by Akbar. Time and time again different people had approached seeking exemption from Jiziya. Everytime the exemption was ostensibly issued, but never was actually implemented.” [2]
Many believe that Akbar, who might be a lecher and a diabolic killer, not an iconoclast and he did not demolish Hindu temples. As a matter of fact, Akbar was mainly concerned with his personal glorification, money and women and hence might not have found much time to concentrate on the matter of desecrating Hindu temples and breaking Hindu Idols.
However, Akbar’s hands were not clean from this sin. While commenting on this aspect of Akbar , Col Tod writes, “Not only that he forcibly annihilated innumerable humans, he also had no respect for temples and deities and willingly indulged in destruction of such places of worship. )." [7] “Throughout Akbar's reign, temples used to razed to the ground or misappropriated as mosques and cows were slaughtered in them, as happened in the battle at Nagarkot. No symbol of Hindu origin and design was spared from the iconoclastic wrath of Akbar.” [2]
While commenting on this aspect of Akbar, V A Smith writes, “The holy Hindu cities of Prayag and Banaras , were plundered by Akbar because their residents were rash enough to close their gates! No wonder Prayag of today has no ancient monuments -- whatever remain are a rubble! It is rather obvious that Akbar had no respect and reverence for cities considered holy by Hindus, let alone esteem for human life and property. Also, it is evident from this instance that Akbar's subjects were horrified and scared upon the arrival of their king into their city. If at all Akbar was so magnanimous, why then did not the people come forward and greet him?” [8]
Monserrate, a contemporary of Akbar, writes, "The religious zeal of the Musalmans has destroyed all the idol temples which used to be numerous. In place of Hindu temples, countless tombs and little shrines of wicked and worthless Musalmans have been erected in which these men are worshipped with vain superstition as though they were saints. Not only did the muslims destroy the idols, but usurped the existing temples and converted them into tombs of insignificant people.”[9]
He further continues, “Akbar has neither any love or compassion for Hindus as is apparent from the above examples. Hindus were openly despised and contemptously treated under Akbar's fanatical rule as under any other rule. Akbar was only one of the many links of the despotic and cruel Moghal rule in India , and enforced the tradition of his forefathers with sincerity and equal ruthlessness.”[9]
Akbar’s shameless court flatterers, to please their master, have painted him as the most handsome man on the earth and our secular and Marxist historians are also following those flatterers. But Akbar’s physique was anything but handsome. Historian V A Smith, in this regard, writes, “Akbar (in mid-life) was a man of moderate stature, perhaps 5’7” in height, broad-chested, narrow waisted and long armed. His legs were somewhat bowed inward and when walking he slightly dragged the left leg, as if he were lame. His head drooped a little toward the right shoulder. … The nose was rather short, with a bony prominence in the middle and nostrils dilated as if with anger. …and his complexion was dark.” [10] So a commentator writes, “Not only was this guy a barbarian, he was also very ugly.”
Akbar’s Lechery:
It has been said earlier that Akbar was mainly concerned with personal glory, money and women and his wars and conquests were aimed to achieve these three goals. So the author of Akbar; the great tyrannical monarch, writes, “Akbar possessed a inordinate lust for women, just like his ancestors and predecessors. One of Akbar's motives during his wars of aggression against various rulers was to appropriate their women, daughters and sisters.” [2]
Some historians try to project that Akbar practiced monogamy throughout his life. While commenting on this aspect, V A Smith writes, “That Akbar remained monogamous throughout his life is indeed history falsified myth.” [11] He also writes “Akbar, throughout his life, allowed himself ample latitude in the matter of wives and concubines! … Akbar had introduced a whole host of Hindu women, the daughters of eminent Hindu Rajahs, into his harem." [12] Historian Dr A L Srivastava has given a detail account in his Akbar the Great, how Akbar coerced the rulers of Jaipur for sending his daughters to Akbar’s harem [2]
Historian J M Shelat writes,"After the "Jauhar" that followed the killing of Rani Durgawati, the two women left alive, Kamalavati (sister of Rani Durgawati) and the daughter of the Raja of Purangad (daughter-in-law of the deceased queen) were sent to Agra to enter Akbar's harem." [13] “It should also be observed that admittance into Akbar's harem was available mainly to virgins and others' were "disqualified". In spite of such disgusting and lewd personal affairs, inducting women of abducted or killed Hindu warriors into his harem as slaves and prostitutes; it is bewildering that Akbar is hailed as a righteous and noble emperor.” [2]
To describe Akbar’s uxorious character, V A Smith writes, “Abul Fazl never tires of repeating that Akbar during his early years remained ‘behind the veil’. What he means thereby is that Akbar used to spend most of his time in his harem.” [14] Akbar habitually drank hard and used to have, for the most of the day, licentous relations with women of his harem. There is no doubt that, both drinking and engaging in debauched sexual activities was inherited by Akbar from his Tartar ancestors. [2]
To describe Akbar’s infinite lewdness, Abul Fazl in his Ain-i-Akbari, writes, "His majesty has established a wine shop near the palace ... The prostitutes of the realm collected at the shop could scarcely be counted, so large was their number .. The dancing girls used to be taken home by the courtiers. If any well known courtier wanted to have a virgin they should first have His Majesty's [Akbar's] permission.” [15] He also writes that, His Majesty [Akbar] himself used to call these prostitutes and ask them who had deprived them of their virginity? "This was the state of affairs during Akbar's rule, where alcoholism, sodomy, prostitution and murderous assaults were permitted by the king himself. The conditions of the civic life during Akbar's life is shocking!” [16]
“Whole of India was reduced to a brothel during the Moghal rule and Akbar, one of the Emperors, is being glorified as one of the patrons of the vast brothel. The above instances may suffice to convince the impartial reader that Akbar's whole career was a saga of uninhibited licentiousness backed by the royal brute.” [2] Who were these so called prostitutes? Wherefrom did a whole army of prostitutes suddenly descend on Akbar’s realm, like swarm of locusts? “The answer is that these ever-increasing prostitutes were none other than decent Hindu women whose homes were daily raided and plundered and their men-folk were either massacred or converted, were haplessly left to fend for themselves and exposed to the mercy of the sex hungry Mussalman courtiers.” [16]
Akbar had made it a pernicious custom to demand choicest women from the household of vanquished foes. Thus all the women in territories conquered by Akbar, whether a commoner, or of noble or royal descend, were at Akbar’s mercy. According to this custom, all the Rajput kings who had submitted to Akbar, were forced to sent their daughters or sisters to Akbar’s harem, where they had to live as sex-slaves. Raja Man Singh of Jaipur had to offer his sister to Akbar. Akbar's cruelty towards the Hindu women, kidnapped and shut up in his harem, were staggering and his much vaunted marriages, said to have been contracted for communal integration and harmony, were nothing but outrageous kidnappings brought about with the force of arms. It has been mentioned earlier, how the Rajput women of the Chittor Fort sacrificed their lives in Jauhar to avoid this disgrace and humiliation.
Only in one occasion, the said custom was slackened and when the Treaty of Ranathambhor between Akbar and the chiefs of Bundi (who owned the fort) was made, the first condition of the said treaty read that the chiefs of Bundi be exempt from the custom, degrading to a Rajputs, of sending a ‘bride’ to the royal harem. To narrate the incident, V A Smith writes, “A treaty was drawn up on the spot, and mediated by the prince of Amber {Jaipur], which presents a good picture of Hindu feeling. [The terms were] (1) that the chiefs of Bundi should be exempted from that custom, degrading to a Rajput, of sending a dola [bride] to the royal harem; (2) exemption from jizya or poll-tax; (3) that the chiefs of Bundi should not be compelled to cross the Attock; (4) that the vassals of Bundi should be exempted from the obligation of sending their wives or female relatives ‘to hold a stall in the Mina bazaar’ at the palace, on the festival of Nauroza [New Year’s Day] and so on. [17]
In the middle of Jan 1562, Akbar made a pilgrimage to the tomb of Khwaja Mainuddin Chisti of Ajmir. On the way, Raja Bihari Mal of Amber entered a peace treaty with Akbar and, according to the said custom, Raja Bihari Mal offered him the hand of his daughter in marriage to Akbar. However, the princess later on became the mother of emperor Jahangir.
Even the Muslim women were not safe from Akbar’s lust. In 1564, Akbar compelled one Shaikh of Delhi to divorce his wife in his favour. [18] Akbar had an eye on Bairam Khan’s wife and married her soon after Bairam Khan was murdered. Akbar did not hesitate to have caused this violent and tragic end of his erstwhile guardian for the satiation of his lust. In this context, it should also be mentioned that, in 1558, when Bairam was more than 50, he married his 19 year old cousin Salima begam. Meanwhile, Bairam was sacked and Akbar asked him to go to Mecca and on his way to Mecca, Bairam Khan was assassinated on 31st January, 1561, at Patan by some Afghans. Akbar was then 19 year old and hence Akbar and Salima Begam were of the same age. [19] This is a fine example of fight between two lechers, just like fighting of dogs in their mating season.
In this way Akbar, with the army of forcefully abducted women, created a harem of 5000 inmates, in the capital city of Agra . While commenting on it, V A Smith writes, “The imperial harem constituted a town in itself. No less than 5000 women dwelt within the walls, and each of them had a separate apartment. The maintenance and control of such a multitude of women necessitated a carefully devised system of internal administration and the organization of adequate arrangements for discipline. The inmates were divided into sections, each under a female commandant (daroga), and due provision was made for the supply from the ranks of clerks to keep the accounts. A strict method of check was applied to the expenditure, which was on a large scale.” [20] Smith further continues, “The inside of the enclosure was protected by armed female guards. Eunuchs watched on the outside of it, and beyond them again were companies of faithful Rajputs, while troops of other classes posted at a greater distance gave further security.” [20]
Though, following Abul Fazl, Smith wrote above that ‘each of the inmates of the harem were provided with a separate apartment’, but in Agra there is not even a single building with 5000 separate rooms. So, the above conclusion is a lie. One can, therefore, easily understand in what wretched condition these unfortunate women were condemned to live. Itmad-ud-daula, the father-in-law of Jehangir, has thrown some light on some other features of the inmates of this harem. If someone had given birth to a female child, she was saved because in future she could be used as a sex-slave. But, if anyone happened to give birth to a male child, he used to be murdered or blinded as in future he could never pose a threat to the throne. It may be mentioned here that, another lecher Ferozshah Tughloq, used to get the private part of the women of his harem sewed, to be sure that they were not having sex with other man.
However, Akbar’s lechery was not confined to his harem of 5000 women and P N Oak, while commenting on this matter, writes, “Despite an exclusive harem of 5,000 women, and all the virgin prostitutes of the realm whose virginity, as Abul Fazl tells us, was at Akbar’s exclusive royal command and could not be violated without special permission by any courtier, the honour of the wives of noblemen and courtiers was itself always subject to Akbar’s sexy pleasure.” [21] Akbar did not spare even the wives of the ministers and nobles of his court, if they happened to draw attention of Akbar’s lust.
To highlight this point, Abul Fazl writes, “Whenever Begams or wives of nobles, or other women of chaste character, desire to be presented, they first notify their wish to the servants of the seraglio and wait for reply. From thence they send their requests to the officers of the palace after which those who are eligible (sic) are permitted to enter the harem. Some women of rank obtained permission to remain there for a whole month.” [2] The above passage is a clear admission that Akbar used to compel wives of courtiers and noblemen, toward whom he felt sufficiently attracted to remain within his harem at least for a month at a time.
To expose another feature of Akbar’s lechery, V A Smith writes, “Grimon’s statement that Akbar had confined himself to one wife and distributed his other consorts among the courtiers is not directly confirmed from other sources.” [22] “This adds a new dimension to Akbar’s lechery because it reveals how women were considered as mere chattel to be freely exchanged among Akbar and his courtiers in a continuous round of sex-traffic.” [19] “Then there was the notorious institution of Meena Bazar, according to which on New Year’s Day, the women of all households had to be paraded before Akbar for his choosing.” [19]
It has been mentioned earlier that Muhammad Ghori, Qutb-ud-din and Iltutmish were sodomites. It has also been mentioned that Babur, Akbar's grandfather, has given a lengthy description of this sodomic infatuation for a male sweetheart in hia auto-biography. Humayun was no different. Therefore, sodomy was also a precious service of Akbar's own family... Though, perhaps, Akbar did not engage in sodomy, but many believe that he allowed" it to be practiced by his servants, courtiers and sycophats. Abul Fazal in Ain-e-Akbari provides accounts of some such acts which are too disgusting to even mention. Such perverse gratification was prevalent during the entire Mughal rule, including Akbar's times.
References:
[1] V. A. Smith, Akbar the Great Mogul, Oxford Clarendon Press, 32..
[2] Akbar The Great A Tyrannical Monarch - http://www.hindunet.org/hindu_history/modern/akbar_ppg.html
[3] V. A. Smith, Akbar the Great Mogul, ibid, 7..
[4] P N Oak, Islamic Havoc in Indian History, Published by A Ghosh, 298.
[5] P N Oak, Islamic Havoc in Indian History, ibid, 294.
[6] V. A. Smith, Akbar the Great Mogul, ibid, 189.
[7] J Todd, Annals and Antiquities of Rajasthan, 2 volumes, Routledge and Kegan Paul Ltd., London , 1957, II, 259.
[8] V. A. Smith, Akbar the Great Mogul, ibid, 58.
[9] S J Monserrate, "The Commentary," translated from original Latin by J.S. Hoyland, annotated by S.Banerjee, Humphrey Milford, Oxford Univ. Press, London , (1922),.27.
[10] V. A. Smith, Akbar the Great Mogul, ibid, 242.
[11] V. A. Smith, Akbar the Great Mogul, ibid, 47.
[12] V. A. Smith, Akbar the Great Mogul, ibid, 212..
[13] J M Shelat, "Akbar," Bharatiya Vidya Bhawan, 1964, Bombay. , 90.
[14] V. A. Smith, Akbar the Great Mogul, ibid, 31.
[15] Blochmann, H., "Ain-e-Akbari," translation of Abul Fazal's Persian text, 2nd Edition, Bibliotheca Indica Series, published by the Royal Asiatic Society of Bengal., 276.
[16] P N Oak, Islamic Havoc in Indian History, ibid, 300.
[17] V. A. Smith, Akbar the Great Mogul, ibid, 99.
[18] V. A. Smith, Akbar the Great Mogul, ibid, 47.
[19] P N Oak, Islamic Havoc in Indian History, ibid, 301.
[20] V. A. Smith, Akbar the Great Mogul, ibid, 359.
[21] P N Oak, Islamic Havoc in Indian History, ibid, 300.
[22] V. A. Smith, Akbar the Great Mogul, ibid, 185.
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To Dr Radha Truth indeed
To Dr Radha
Truth indeed hurts. Such cruelty, bestiality and uncivilized conduct of an Emperor of India who was considered to be the most lenient among all is astonishing.
5000 unfortunate women in his Harem? It's compassion enough to contemplate the fate of those poor creatures.
Humanity is but one family. :)
Prof. Brahmachari, when
Prof. Brahmachari, when Islamic court chronicles mention about erecting a mosque after destroying a temple, it only means they destroyed the deities (I wouldn't call them idols) and other Hindu symbols of the temple and inscribed surahs from Quran. P.N. Oak has written many books on this issue. The place where Muslim dead bodies are buried used to be adorned with deities of Hinduism. In fact, we find every fakir or mullah was buried in a grand mausoleum with Hindu school of architecture. Going by this, these mullahs or fakirs should have lived in similar palaces. We don't see them at all! It shows that the Muslims were always on the hunt for temples or palaces of Hindus to bury the wicked souls so that once a place is desecrated and used as a tomb, it wouldn't be reconquered by the kaffirs. One example is given below
Watch this video on Taj Mahal by Marvan Mills :
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3379388167850403569
Imagine what may happen in
Imagine what may happen in India if all these atrocities by the moslem scum bags i s made known to all? Both hindus and moslems garbage in India? There will be street riotings and mayhem. I am not really sure if it serves any purpose at all? The outsiders invaded India for it's wealth and all that is gone now and what is left is 25 crores of grabage people Ie moslems and 75 crore morons. Let the sleeping dog lie
to Proudkafir #3 The Hindus
to Proudkafir #3
The Hindus did resist the foreign invaders right? But they lost the war and hence, being conquered. Why spew hatred against the Hindus? They already did their duty to defend their Motherland, but failure was something unexpected.
There is no garbage of India. The Hindus were tolerant while the Muslims were ignorant. Strip off the mask of Islam from them and they will be like any other human, good or bad. At the moment, the bad one are the true Muslims while the good one are impious Muslims.
Humanity is but one family. :)
# 4: The problem with hindus
# 4: The problem with hindus is that they are too tolerant; too much of anything is bad. Tolerating intolerance of jihadis & missionaries is the root cause of decadence of hindus in India.
Too much tolerance is bad,
Too much tolerance is bad, afghanistan including bamiyan had lots of buddhists and hindu kings, these hindu kings were heavily affected by buddhists and practised 'ahimsa' i.e, non killing. ALthough they defeated initial muslim incursions, but failed in 1000 AD , when muhammed kassim, butchered whole cities.Hindu followed ethics like not to fight in the night, not to harm women, children and non-combatants.
Similarly rajputs fought continuously and from there onwards hindu majority area remained, till now. Unfortunately many hindus helped in administration of the muslims, otherwise muslims would never have established any kingdom.
yeh! due ahimsa& dharma da
yeh!
due ahimsa& dharma da hindus loosed 2 da muslims,dese muslims were always da cheaters. da biggest ex. of dis if of da great prithviraj chauhan.
he loose da war to mohd. ghazni or someother asshole with mohd. as da initial name. dat mullah attacked da prithviraj chauhans soldier camp early morning when da soldiers were not ready.
but as i said him da gr8 prithviraj chauhan though he was caught he killed dat bastard mullah in dat cutpiece(mullah) land in front of dat muslims army.
hindus wake up against da
hindus wake up against da muslims & cristians
http://www.stephen-knapp.com/crimes_against_india.htm
This a great example of
This a great example of Islamic perversion.
Look at the irony, Akbar's
Look at the irony, Akbar's ancestors hailed from the region which are currently known as central Asian republics.Now women from these republics are a part of a large prostitution racket in most Indian cities.Karma theory of Hinduism.?????
Unfortunately many hindus
Do you really think those Hindus had a choice? There were many Brahmin administrators who were forced to serve Islamic Kings under the threat of extermination of the entire community. When I read the history, I sometimes wonder how Hindus even survived this holocaust for over 800 years at the hands of Islamic jihadists and then at the hands of xian crusaders.
Mughals used to force Hindus
Mughals used to force Hindus to pay Jezia or accept Islam. The scenario is continuing even today in Islamic countries.
"Embrace Islam or pay Jazia" 29/06/2009 09:38:49
Hindus in Battagram District of NWFP told to embrace Islam or pay tax
Chief of the Hindu community in the Battagram city of Battagram District said on June 28 that the Taliban had threatened them to pay Jazia (tax) or accept Islam, Dawn reported. “It depends on you to choose between Jazia and Islam otherwise you would face abduction and suicide attacks,” Dr Oam Parkash quoted the Taliban as saying. He said that so far he had received two calls during the last two days: first by a Taliban commander and then by a militant. “They demanded Rs6 million from me,” the Hindu leader added. The Taliban is reported to have threatened that “if you or any other member of your community were kidnapped then we will not release the kidnapped person even after payment of Rs10 million as ransom”. Parkash said that he had made clear to both callers that the Hindus in the region were not in a position to pay such a huge amount. Parkash said that 15 Hindu families were living in Battagram but none of them had enmity with anyone in the District. “The government should take precautionary measures to protect the Hindu community as the Taliban have threatened even to target our place of worship in Battagram,” he added.
Well brought out articles on
Well brought out articles on Mughals and their real faces have been unfolded. Hindus have been tolerant exceeding limits and the present rulers eversince 1947 have been only busy glorifying Mulsim rulers or else the minorities get offended. Watch the movies Mughal E Azam, Anarkali, Shah jehan and all such trash with cock and bull stories glorifying these killers, lechers,womanizers and debauches as the most benevolent, pious and humane and gaod fearing too. They were just killers and faud and nothing more. A sad fact to live with. But Can these history books be changed now after years of brainwashing the generationas after generations? Struggle must continue. In fact all history books should be scrapped and re written as per many people. But will this be possible with present set up? Very great damage has been done to the nation that looks impossible to be reversed.Yet struggle must go on. India has already been dismembered. Muslims are demading Mughalistan comprising of UP areas. In kerala mUslim districts are already there. Kashmir is already out of hand. What would remain of India if the Indians relax in deep slumber and allow the nation to be balkanised and turned into Dar ul Islam. writing on the wall is there and people are not reading it and reacting.The defeat of BJP in the recent elections is an eye opener for the things to come soon. Rapid awakening must be brought among Hindus about the dangers.Good articles by dr Brahmachari and appreciate the efforts to unfold the truths.
Dr K Prabhakar Rao
Every one distorts every
Every one distorts every thing to suit his needs! See the way the cunning christians claim that old testament is not a part of the bible and the same newer generation of cunning christians distance themselves from the evil thoughts of old testicle!
In short if you keep quiet no body will help you and every one will trample you!
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Is the Bible the oldest religious book in the world?
Of all the ancient writings, most scholars agree that the Old Testament of the Bible is the oldest of religious books. It was first written at 1000 BC through 500 BC and the words were given by God to its writers. In comparison, most others are relatively young.
Koran or al-Qur'an (holy book of Islam) was written in 650 AD.
Veda (sacred scriptures of Hinduism) written 500 - 1000 BC.
Tao-te-ching (Taoism book of philosophy) was mainly written by Lao-Tse, who is believed by many to be the founder of Taoism.
Bahagavad Gita (Indian Hindu epic poem) between 200 BC - 200 AD.
The Old Testament, of Hebrew origin, is the sacred scripture of Judaism and is the first portion of the Christian Bible. The Old Testament is made up of 39 books consisting of:
the Law given to Moses (the Torah or Pentateuch)
the History beginning with the creation through slavery and liberation
the Prophets (Major and Minor)
The Old Testament also includes words of praise, poetry, and wisdom in Psalms, Proverbs, and numerous prophecies of the coming Messiah.
The second portion of the Christian Bible is the New Testament, containing 27 books. Most of it is believed to have been written approximately 70-90 years after the crucifixion of Jesus. The New Testament is:
fulfillment of Old Testament Law through Jesus Christ
the story of Jesus' life, work, crucifixion, and resurrection
proclaims the way of salvation and encouragement for daily life
#14 Veda (sacred scriptures
#14
Veda (sacred scriptures of Hinduism) written 500 – 1000 BC.
Proudkafir,
you are greatly wrong. These figures are great perversion of European so called scholars, missionaries and later the xxxxxxxx praising those perverts. AIT ( Aryan Invasion Theory) has seen collapse and dating of vedas and vedic period is also proven false. The Saraswati river satellite images and further archeology is putting the dates as far as 5000 to 3000 B.C. Are you also fooled by these perverts or brainwashed in school?
That's precisely what I am
That's precisely what I am trying to show.How these people lie so blatantly and have brainwashed a whole generation of Indians who think bible and qrand are all rational books and Hinduism books are all myth!
The lie and cruelty of these two evil religions are mind boggling
Sorry , forgot to add.there
Sorry , forgot to add.there is a nut head who keeps posting that old testicles is for jews and jews only and new testicles are for her and other nut heads.That's what I wanted to expose.The old testament is as vile and cruel as qrand is and the latter just borrowed from bible.They both are equally evil
Proudkafir posts: "Sorry ,
Proudkafir posts: "Sorry , forgot to add.there is a nut head who keeps posting that old testicles is for jews and jews only and new testicles are for her and other nut heads.That’s what I wanted to expose.The old testament is as vile and cruel as qrand is and the latter just borrowed from bible.They both are equally evil"
I have no faith Proudkafir, but I was raised a Christian. You continually state that Christians believe in the Old Testament and to a very limited extent that is true; however, Christians are taught the morals of the New Testament not the old.
One would think that a man of truth would not repeat the same lie over and over again after they have been told the truth.
I don't care if you hate Christians or Muslims but constantly spreading lies is not the way to gain credibility.
With due respect, Professor,
With due respect, Professor, Hindus never were politically wise.
If it wasn't for the British Rule of 195 years, India would have become an Islamic land as Hindus would have lived by embracing Islam for reasons of fear for their lives or greed.
When I say Hindus, it means not Jewish or Zoroastrian or Christian or Muslim. Sikhs, Jainites and Buddhists are Hindus for all practical purposes and for this debate.
Don't you see professor, in last 61 years, Muslims have become a more powerful lot than they were before creation of Pakistan? Hindu politicians of all hues and shades have succumbed to fundamentalist demands of Muslims since India was freed by British. The greedy Hindus are unable to run their country. It is bound to go Islam's way in a not far away a future. The so-called secularism of India is a synonym for Islamization and the so-called Hindu organizations are a mere collection of same coward, disoriented and moron Hindus. The "minority" means Muslims only and rarely Christian BUT none else.
Jainites, the most minuscule segment of Indians, asked for stoppage of butchering of animals during their festival of 3 days -- NOT A SINGLE SECULAR HINDU POLITICIAN OR POLITICAL PARTY paid heed to their religious sensibilities while for Muslims [ 17% ] can always have what they want because they are a "minority"!
Hindu politicians have made a farce of minority rights and a mockery of secularism.
Professor, you and your think-a-likes should be grateful to British [ read Christians ] for saving you to the detriment of Hindus. Has any Hindu shown any gratitude towards Christians?
None!
India is the breeding ground of the worst kind of Islamic terrorism - far worse than any other country -- and will be the cause of the greatest islamic jihad in next 50 years. Not because Islam is good or because Muslims are stronger. But, because Hindus are, what British euphemistically and appropriately called, WOGs -- the Wily Oriental Gentlemen!
Professor, you and your
Greatful for what? for creating pukistan.... British are themselves in greater problem than India. Take a look at UK. These muslims have ares in UK where British police dare not to venture. So what the f%^& you are blabbering about xians..
Besides what did these xians do to Hindus, except impose inquisitio and spread xian terrorism and bogotry all over Inida. Xians are as much scum as Muslims in India. They are both working together with communists to destroy India. As for Hindu politicians, hardly there are any. If you take a look at the political landscape today, there Sikhs, xians, atheists, communists, xians and Muslims holding power in politics.
As for the few Hindu politicians like Varun Gandhi, they are sidelined and hounded with false allegations using loop holes in laws by xian and Islamic politicians. So neither British nor Indian xians are of any help to Hindus. On the contrary they are both as evil as musalmans.
I have to agree to one statement of yours that Hindus are NOT politically wise. Tha tis why these xian scum bags like you and evil Islamic scum bags still survive in India.
But, because Hindus are, what
You racist bigoted SOB, WOG was used by British to refer to any person of color, from Africa to Asia. Who the hell told you it refers to Hindus exclusively?
I have no faith Proudkafir,
When you yourself say it is true to a limited extent that morals of OT are taught, that is enough. It is NO small matter that xians have utter contempt for Hindus and cannot tolerate Hindus practicing their religion like Muslims. In India this is especially true. Utter hatred and contempt for Hindus is what xians are taught, both from OT and NT. Xianity is nearly as evil as Islam.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgS7FP4432w Watch this video. This is currently happening in India (Goa). In their iconoclastic fury, they are destroying the idols of other religions. What a shame! Their mindset has not changed at all.
Ah the truth hurts! Dear
Ah the truth hurts! Dear humanist I am thankfully neither a christian nor a scum bag moslem to spread lies as truth.I was always taught that truth shall always triumph( satyam eva jayate) The old testicle is a part of bible.You dilike it because the old testicle whe n read in todays context, is vile, cruel, asinine, absurd, stupid, violent and every thing else but godly.So you as an individual will want to not consider OT as part of bible.Open your mind a little bit more and see the destruction brought on by the followers of christianity and islam all over the world.Christians are cunning and moslems are cruel.The two are the two face of the same evil coin.Not a lot to chose between them.
If OT was not part of bible and nothing to do with bible at all, can we get a statement from the pope to say so????????
Which limited morals fo OT that you accept?Any way I am stating the truth and am not lying unlike christians. OT is vile and cruel, violent and vomitus.
Compare this teaching to your OT
All religions are a way to attain and understand GOD and so are equal.Does this staement provoke you kill people of other religions?( Sarva Dharma samabhava)
Humanity is but one family( Vasudeva kutumbam) We are all children of same god.there is no lesser or greater god! Your OT does not teach even a fraction of this peace.Pisslam is nothing but what is in toilet bowl.Pleae bring out the nice and useful bits of OT, let us have it
@19, Kokamal see the video I
@19, Kokamal see the video I posted in comment #23. The destruction of idols was caused by the Christians of Goa. You want to know what causes them to attack the statues of other religions? It is old testament.
So we have it from the
So we have it from the horse's mouth.Morals of New testament and not OT as OT is IMMORAL! Got it absolutely right.To follow an immoral god who encourages destruction and killing of the non christians and non moslems is to say the least pure EVIL.
@20. continuum1 LOL. Though
@20. continuum1
LOL. Though moron covers it all, but, I forgot to use blind for Hindus while describing their attributes.
Your post exemplifies it.. that you -- a Hindu -- can't comprehend even written text. Owing to your visual and comprehension handicap and jaundiced view, your mind went off tangent to make stupid assertions.
Why are you concerned about problems in UK, when the topic is History of India? If Christians and Muslims with Communists' support -- the three totalling approximately 20% of the population -- can keep remaining 80% Hindus captive to their "cunning", "cruelty" and "Communism" and can "destroy" India, shouldn't Hindus be ashamed of their miserable existence?
As for your cussing, well, only cowards resort to cussing and pleas of persecution in sync.
Varun Gandhi is your HERO?.. that's good for laughs.
@21. continuum1 I wasn't
@21. continuum1
I wasn't there when British used WOGs for Indians, but those who were [Khushwant Singh] say "the Britishers explained WOG as Westernised Oriental Gentleman, but actually, they meant Wily Oriental Gentleman".
I will continue to ignore your cusswords.
@23 wagamama Abrahamic
@23 wagamama
Abrahamic religions can't survive without hate, violence and their stupidity. Abraham's God is a blood-thirsty monster.
The difference between my views and yours is one -- you hold followers of faiths responsible for all the violence while I hold their religious ideology responsible for all the mayhem perpetrated by the followers.
@24. proudkafir Ranting
@24. proudkafir
Ranting Sanskrit sayings is all Hindus can do and here Hindus are no different than Muslims who say some gibberish in Arabic fromQur'an -- they themselves don't know -- and Christians who quote selected verses fro Bible.
Don't hide your cowardice under the cover of Hindu thinkers!
What a great joke. British
What a great joke. British saved hindus from muslim rulers. My dear friend have you studied in a Convent school or missionary school? If you don't know History, let me tell you, Muslims in their peak of power also could not eliminate Hindus. The Hindus were also very strong in this period and Muslims rulers had to depends on them for ruling and could not go completely against them.
Later on just before the british ruled, there was a big Maratha empire ( Hindu ). It had almost wiped out nijam and moghuls. Sikh were also in power in north. Muslim were already on decline. So tell me how British saved hindus?
While as xtians started inquisitions as soon as they set foot on the land. They also broke temples, used pressure techniques, slave trade, rapes, torture and all sort of bloody things to forcefully convert.
Other point the British used famous divide and rule policy, they wanted clashes within the religion. The muslims were not keen on driving british out of country but to establish Caliphate somewhere in way outside the country. Could you explain this dicrepency? I would suggest, read history again without prejudices and with rational logical thinking.
Comment deleted. Irrelevant
Comment deleted. Irrelevant topic. This site does not exist to attack different religions (i.e. Christianity, Hinduism, ..etc).
hi Admin, I'd just posted
hi Admin,
I'd just posted some History channel documentary links. There were hardly any comment in it. The documentary is scientific in its approach. Would you please elaborate the reason for moderating it?
If truth hurts then what is the loud trumpeting for freethinking society? Or is the claim right that your site is Zionist or christian propaganda machine?
If you claim that I attacked different religion, then why we see Hinduism getting bashed by many and still getting comments through moderator screening.
I hope I at least deserve some logical response, may be even off line.
Regards,
Samir
I am not ranting.I am just
I am not ranting.I am just pointing out the unjust ways of th vile and bilious, vomitus called bible ( old and it's new version), that is full of asinine assertions and absurdities.I am not surprised nut heads depend on it, by the way the pisslam and christianity are both equally vile and evil. Dont believe me? read the vomitus with an open mind.Still dont? Read what many people have written about Hindia!
Wiliam Durant American Historian
"India was the motherland of our race, and Sanskrit the mother of Europe's languages: she was the mother of our philosophy; mother, through the Arabs, of much of our mathematics; mother, through the Buddha, of the ideals embodied in Christianity; mother, through the village community, of self-government and democracy. Mother India is in many ways the mother of us all".
2. Mark Twain, American author:
"India is, the cradle of the human race, the birthplace of human speech, the mother of history, the grandmother of legend, and the great grand mother of tradition. our most valuable and most instructive materials in the history of man are treasured up in India only."
3. Albert Einstein, American scientist:
"We owe a lot to the Indians, who taught us how to count, without which no worthwhile scientific discovery could have been made."
4. Max Mueller, German scholar:
If I were asked under what sky the human mind has most fully developed some of its choicest gifts, has most deeply pondered on the greatest problems of life, and has found solutions, I should point to India.
5. Romain Rolland, French scholar :
"If there is one place on the face of earth where all the dreams of living men have found a home from the very earliest days when man began the dream of existence, it is India."
6. Hu Shih, former Ambassador of China to USA:
"India conquered and dominated China culturally for 20 centuries without ever having to send a single soldier across her border."
7. Mark Twain:
"So far as I am able to judge, nothing has been left undone, either by man or nature, to make India the most extraordinary country that the sun visits on his rounds. Nothing seems to have been forgotten, nothing overlooked."
8. Keith Bellows, VP - National Geographic Society :
"There are some parts of the world that, once visited, get into your heart and won’t go. For me, India is such a place. When I first visited, I was stunned by the richness of the land, by its lush beauty and exotic architecture, by its ability to overload the senses with the pure, concentrated intensity of its colors, smells, tastes, and sounds... I had been seeing the world in black & white and, when brought face-to-face with India, experienced everything re-rendered in brilliant technicolor."
9. Mark Twain:
"India has two million gods, and worships them all. In religion all other countries are paupers; India is the only millionaire."
10. A Rough Guide to India:
"It is impossible not to be astonished by India. Nowhere on Earth does humanity present itself in such a dizzying, creative burst of cultures and religions, races and tongues. Enriched by successive waves of migration and marauders from distant lands, every one of them left an indelible imprint which was absorbed into the Indian way of life. Every aspect of the country presents itself on a massive, exaggerated scale, worthy in comparison only to the superlative mountains that overshadow it. It is this variety which provides a breathtaking ensemble for experiences that is uniquely Indian. Perhaps the only thing more difficult than to be indifferent to India would be to describe or understand India completely. There are perhaps very few nations in the world with the enormous variety that India has to offer. Modern day India represents the largest democracy in the world with a seamless picture of unity in diversity unparalleled anywhere else."
Your convuluted biblically stunted cretinoid mind can not comprehend this.Throw the bible away just as George bernard shaw said " Bible is the most dangerous book and let not your children read It! Keep locked"
What a comment for the divine book.If still not convinced ask BD here.A born catholic but now a free spirit.
PK, the same India the great
PK, the same India the great men described, is being gradually changed by the Christian missionaries. See the latest article 'Inculturation' the missionaries are engaged in in www.haindavakeralam.org The Christian missionaries have made a new Bible for Indians incorporating Hindu ideals taken from Vedas, Upanishads and Bhagavad Gita. This plagarisation has been going on for quite some time now. It is only and matter of time before Christian missionaries declare Krisha is the incarnation og Christ!!!
I wasn’t there when British
LOL.... Stupid fellow does NOT know the history regarding use of this word and yet makes claims that they were used against Hindus. Only morons like you make such claims.
Really...
Look at this stupid hypocrite, he says he will ignore my cusswords and then this SOB makes calls others with cusswords.
Lets see who exemplifies stupidity...
For one you made an statement about British saving Hindus... These British cannot save their own backyard and so is relevant to your point. However I understand you are furious that I have exposed british xian community's ugly rear side.
Hindus are naturally tolerant people. No wonder they are taken advantage of. However xian SOBs like yourselves and Islamaniacs take it as weakness. You people are snakes that bite the hands that feed.
Hindus need not be ashamed for being tolerant and on the other hand it is xian piga like yourselves that should be ashamed to take advantage of Hindu hospitality.
SOBs are SOBs whether you call it cussing or not. You are one SOB par excellence. No wonder you like to lick your master's ass so much.
At the least he spoke against Muslims.
The difference between my
LOL.... This must be a joke from xian taqqiah players...
Every violent act of xian is directly connected to the bible and jsutified through the bible all through history. Lets take a history of violent acts ans see.
1. Destruction of pagan temples by xians.
Justified through bible, both OT and NT, by xians historically and in present days.
Take a look at history of pagan temple destruction. It is no isolated mater and was and is justified through centuries by quoting bible verses.
community-2.webtv.net/tales_of_the_western_world/TEMPLEDESTRUCTION/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_Paganism#Christians_and_Pagans_in_the_Roman_Empire
2. Witch burning.
Justified through OT by xians
3. Untouchability practices against non-believers.
Justified through bible.
The list is many... but these three will suffice that xians have been following OT just as much as NT to persecute non-believers. This happens today in India.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histori
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_persecution_by_Christians
More information on how british saved Hindus...
By the 18th century, persecutions of unsanctioned beliefs had been reduced in most Europeans countries to religious discrimination, in the form of legal restrictions on those who did not accept the official faith. This often included being barred from higher education, or from participation in the national legislature. In colonized nations, attempts to convert native peoples to Christianity became more encouraging and less forceful. In British India during the Victorian era, Christian converts were given preferential treatment for governmental appointments.
At the present time, most countries in which Christianity is the religion of the majority of the people, are either secular states or they embrace the separation of Church and State in another way. (A list of countries in which Christianity still is the state religion can be found at the article on State religion.)
Some recent political conflicts are sometimes considered as religious persecution. Among these, there is the case of the Hue Vesak shootings in Vietnam on May 8, 1963 and the ethnic cleansing of Albanians, most of them Muslim, in Kosovo between 1992 to 1999, along with Bosnian Muslims. [45]
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Just take a look at how xian hypocrites and liars deny the obvious connection between bible teachings and laws that persecuted non-believers all through history and also xian persecution of non-believers today. ANy argument that OT goes against NT teachings is purely interpretation and can be easily interpreted the other way.
Christian theology and persecution
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_persecution_by_Christians#Biblical_Exegesis
Christian theology derives its sources from the teachings and actions of Jesus as recorded in the New Testament, as well as the Old Testament and several other sources depending on the Christian denomination. This makes the Bible, especially the canonical Gospels, the primary source in order to classify persecution by Christians as either religiously motivated persecution or ethnic persecution. Some churches, such as the Roman Catholic Church, give weight to oral tradition.
The Old Testament has been the main source for Christian theologians advocating religious persecution. An example of this would be John Jewel. In defending the demand for religious uniformity by Elizabeth I of England, he declared: "Queen Elizabeth doth as did Moses, Josua, David, Salomon, Josias, Jesophat, ..."
@31. sameer One doesn't need
@31. sameer
One doesn't need education in a missionary school to know India's history. A visit to India's national capital can tell almost everything how glorious Hindu history has been for nearly 1200 years!
Qutub Minaar, Red Fort, Jumma Masjid, Parliament House, Rashtrapati Bhavan, South Block, North Block, India Gate the Lutyen's Delhi, etc -- all are indicative of the glorious past Hindus had and do Hindus proud!
Sorry, I forgot to mention Birla Mandir, Gauri Shankar Temple and some gurudwaras.
Hindu rulers never wanted a united India.. they never could think of one India as they had petty selfish motives. In past 1200 years the only rulers who have held India togather had been muslims or the British.
If blaming Muslims and British for Hindus' shortcomings is the answer, you have every right to feel victim IN SPITE OF THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY HINDUS ALWAYS ENJOYED THESE 1200 YEARS!
It is immaterial what Muslims and British did to Hindus and their country India. The question about Hindus' history is about WHAT HINDUS DID for their country!
@34. proudkafir I'm
@34. proudkafir
I'm impressed by the encomiums Hindus and India, and things, Hindu and Indian have received from such great personages from the entire world; and you have been kind enough to so nicely compile them for my benefit. But, are you aware of what you have posted to counter to what I commented upon your post?
You have quoted people who COME FROM THE FAMILY OF BIBLE-FOLLOWERS -- BE THEY CHRISTIANS OR BE THEY JEWISH.
Yet, you have puked all the venom against Bible.
Those great men have praised Hindu THOUGHT and certainly not Hindus' political bankruptcy.
You may also refer to my comment #39 above.
Are you sure you're writing what you want to establish?
Are you aware what Max Muller had in his mind when he was praising Hindus and Sanskrit literature?
By the way, did I use Biblical verses to establish my viewpoint?
Now, do you see the fallacy of your thought process.. you're seeing ghosts in shadows of your imaginations.
@ 37 and 38 continuum1 I am
@ 37 and 38 continuum1
I am sorry.. I really wrote big words for a moron like you. Being a stupid Hindu you can never appreciate wisdom. There is not single statement in your post to suggest Hindus have political will or wisdom to keep India one which is the topic of this debate.
There is more to your stupidity. You accuse others [read Muslims and Christians ] for your own folly. You love to walk on dead men's legs. The ancestors of Hindus that gave what I refer to as Hindu Thought wasn't the brainchild of a moron like you.
Your hate for Christians and Muslims knows no bounds. But, then, a moron can't be expected to be discrete in separating people from their ideologies!
I am sorry.. I really wrote
Wisdom, big words????...... What wisdom is there in playing cheap political games? I agree that Hindus do NOT play cheap political games like xian and islamic vermin.
But calling this political cunningness of xians and muslims as wisdom, only morons like you can do so.
In other words if I blame Muslims of using loop holes in western democracy against western democracy, then I am stupid???
How is this different in case of India moron? Only brain dead biblical cretins will blame the victims for everything.
LOL...... Look at how this stupid biblical cretin is spewing cusswords... Ideologies do not affect the world without believers. It is the believers who are directly responsible for all the problems. Consequently it is logical to hate those who are the core cause of the problem, those that follow stupid ideologies like xianity and Islam.
Yes, my hatred for xians and muslims who follow these evil ideologies have no bounds. Hating evil people and stupid morons like you is NOT wrong.
By the way you stupido
By the way you stupido kokamal, what do you have to say regarding the people who used OT to justify all the crimes committed against non-believers throughout history and in present times......
LOL... what a moron.... many of them "great men" have puked on bible themselves...
Will Durant was an agnostic and does not have much to say about xianity other than saying that xianity was influenced by paganism.
It is full of interest. It has noble poetry in it; and some clever fables; and some blood-drenched history; and some good morals; and a wealth of obscenity; and upwards of a thousand lies.
- Letters from the Earth Mark Twain
the word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish." Einstein
and called bible bunch of baloney... do not forget to add it...LOL...
LOL... You keep barking like a dog.... Even if Hindus are politically bankrupt, Hindus cannot be blamed for the atrocities committed by morally bankrupt xians and muslims....
I am sorry.. I really wrote
1. Here is an example of xian wisdom in politics. LTTE, a xian terrorist orgamization well financed by Catholics and possibly other xian sects...
haindavakeralam.com/HkPage.aspx?PAGEID=8889&SKIN=W
2. Another example of xian wisdom, plagiarize other religion's scripture
haindavakeralam.com/HkPage.aspx?PAGEID=8881&SKIN=C
3. Bribe politicians and communist terrorist orgs with lots of money as in Orissa.
4. Destroy Hindu, Buddhist temples etc.
buddhapia.com/eng/tedesco/pic1/list.html
5. If Hindus, Buddhists complain about persecution by Christians, blame them for lack of political wisdom.
The list of political wisdom xians possess is innumerable. It will be appended in due time.
Dear BBC ( Biblically (brain)
Dear BBC ( Biblically (brain) blunted cretin)
If I remember correctly you mentioned that you are a porki christian.No matter moscum or christ licker from porki land, they have the same mean mentality.
Followers of the two evil system do certain evil things, precisely because their holy books tell them to do so.They do these things with out the conscience ever pricking and in complete knowledge that their god approves such heinous things.Your biblically stunted brain is unable to comprehend the problem.I would say Lord forgive her for she knows not she is doing the wrong thing! your lord would have said, lord take her to heaven for she is doing the right thing. I am sure you will take time to decipher the meaning of what exactly i have posted here!
@29 Kokamal The difference
@29 Kokamal
The difference between my views and yours is one — you hold followers of faiths responsible for all the violence while I hold their religious ideology responsible for all the mayhem perpetrated by the followers.
Wagamama says: I never hold the followers of other faiths responsible for voilence. I rather look into the source-- their scriptures-- and decipher facts. Earlier I had written an article exposing the similarities between Old Testament and Quran.
Lets get down to business. I posted a video to show the iconoclastic fury of Christians on Hindu idols in Goa. The reason for this is the Duetoronomy chapter in the Old Testament. I request you to go through it and confirm. If you have not read that chapter and not following it then you are a good human being
Dear Kokamal The christians(
Dear Kokamal
The christians( followers of the dead jew on the stick) are breaking the temples.The ideology they follow tells them to break temples and idols and so they are doing exactly as the lord wished. Now how do we separate ideology from followers? they are the same.Both are equally evil.Dont you see/ Nahh your biblically blunted brain can not comprehend this mean( sorry pious act as per your teachings) act of followers.Burn bible and use qrand as toilet tissue.Things will be better for all.
I shall not hide my cowardice
I shall not hide my cowardice behind the sanskrit words.Ok shall I bomb the churches and mosques??? See how stupid your parents have been to teach you this. I am not retaliating because my religion tells me they are ignorant , stupid fools and also tells me to saty away from crap like ????????? U
proudkafir, semitic deal is
proudkafir, semitic deal is very simple: "My God is your God, but your God is not my God. If you don't believe in My God, you will be in everlasting Hell. You have been living in ignorance (muslim word=Jihiliya) for ages. By striking off your idol, I am saving you from eternal damnation of my angry God. Don't you thank me for that..... hey when there is only one saviour of humanity, believing in everything else is a sheer waste of time. God is ours and our sole property. We have a US patent over heaven and every place here on earth. You either believe in him or you will perish. If you still cannot understand then you are a pagan/hindu/buddhist"
Thank you silenzer and you
Thank you silenzer and you indeed have silenzed the blunted cretin.
Arch Bishop Desmond tutu! said ones, white man came to south africa with just a book in his hand and we had the land.A few years down the line we were holding the book( dick if you ask me!) and the whites had the land! That speaks the cunning nature of these dik or book holders.
Moslems are visibly and in action poisonous snakes.Christians are poisonous no doubt, but do it surreptiously