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Collection of the Qur’an - 2

Printer-friendly versionPrinter-friendly versionSend to friendSend to friendPDF versionPDF versionBy Ibn Kammuna Introductory Notes The first part of this study opened our eyes to the fact that the Qur’an was not ever collected as “one unit” during the time of Muhammad (PBUH). The prophet himself allowed tampering with the Qur’anic wording. This was evident when he changed some of the words in the Qur’an according to what one of the scribes suggested. Also, the scandal of satanic verses revelations casts doubts on any and all of the Qur’an. How are we to judge which verses are satanic and which are not? When Muhammad (PBUH) died, the Qur’an has already been changed with Muhammad’s approval. It, also, was not collected as one unit, thus allowing varieties of claims about which writings belong to the “revealed” Qur’an, and which writings do not belong to it. The previous article followed the Qur’an’s formation up to the time when Uthman sanctioned one version of the Qur’an, and ordered the destruction of all other “Qur’ans”. To give credit to Uthman, he tried his best to make some order of a chaotic “Qur’an” situation. However, as one might expect, some parts of “unofficial” Qur’anic revelations survived after the time of Uthman, and are still a troubling matter for those who claim that the Qur’an we have nowadays is the unaltered word of Allah, word by word, and letter by letter. We, also, saw that human memory may have contributed to having many versions of the Qur’anic suras and ayas. Humans just remember things in a variety of ways. In this article, I take the reader beyond what we talked about so far. We will go on a journey that follows the Qur’an, and what happened to it, after the “official” Uthmanic version was born. The Qur’an after Uthman Orthodox Muslims insist that the Uthmanic official version of the Qur’an is the totality of revelation, by Allah, to Muhammad (PBUH). This position, as I have clarified earlier, is not supported by historical facts. It is a dogmatic position adopted by many hard core Muslim apologetics. Historical facts just do not support it. Charles Adams observes that the orthodox position is motivated by dogmatic factors and cannot be supported by historical evidence.4 As a matter of fact, earlier Muslim scholars and Qur’anic commentators knew that many parts of the Qur’an were lost, perverted, and changed. They realized there were many variants of the Qur’an. In this sense, those scholars were more objective to the facts than today’s Muslim apologetics. As-Suyuti, died 1505, a revered Quranic commentator, quotes the son of Umar Al-khattab (the second Caliph after Abu Bakr) saying: “Let no one of you say that he has acquired the entire Koran for how does he know that it is all? Much of the Koran has been lost, thus let him say, ‘I have acquired of it what is available’” 5 As-Suyuti, also, quotes Ayesha; the beloved wife of the Prophet, saying “During the time of the Prophet, the chapter of the Parties used to be two hundred verses when read. When ‘Uthman edited the copies of the Koran, only the current (verses) were recorded”6 As-Suyuti, also, tells this story about Ubai ibn Ka’b, one of Muhammad’s (PBUH) great companions: This famous companion asked one of the Muslims, “How many verses in the chapter of the Parties?” He said, “Seventy-Three verses.” He (Ubai) told him, “It used to be almost equal to the chapter of the Cow (my addition: 286 verses!!), and included the verse of the stoning.” The man asked, “What is the verse of the stoning?” He (Ubai) said, “If an old man or woman committed adultery, stone them to death.” I hope that it is evident, by now, to the reader, that multiplicity of changes did take place in the Qur’an. Such changes include additions, deletion, and just flat out changes and variations of the wordings in the Ayas. I move now back to discussing the official Uthmanic version of the Qur’an. As I mentioned previously, Uthman attempted to bring order to chaos. Uthman tried to canonize the Medinan Codex. He sent copies of it to Mecca, Medina, Damascus, Kufa, and Basra. He ordered the destruction of all others. He tried to standardize the consonantal text, but, alas, many variant traditions of the consonantal text survived well into the fourth Islamic century. This, in my view, was expected. Muhammad (PBUH) was not keen on preserving the Qur’an word by word and letter by letter. Also, Arab tribes had their own dialects. So, varieties of versions of the Qur’an were expected. Uthman’s task was impossible right from the start. Also, the consonantal text was unpointed. In the Arabic language, this indeed spells catastrophe as to the meaning of words and verses in the Qur’an. Ibn Warraq writes: ….the consonantal text was unpointed, that is to say, the dots that distinguish, for example, a “b” from a “t” or a “th” were missing. Several other letters (f and q; h, and kh; s and d; r and z; s and sh; d and dh, t and z) were indistinguishable (my emphasis). In other words, the Koran was written in a scripta defective. As a result, a great many variant readings were possible according to the way the text was pointed (had the dots added).7 What Ibn Warraq is saying here spells disaster. It will be impossible for any human being to decipher the actual meaning of the Qur’an. The Qur’an , at first, was not “dotted”. This is a huge problem in the Arabic language. I do not think an English reader will appreciate how big a problem this is without solid examples. Let me give a couple of examples. Take two Arabic words like “Sami” and “Shami”. The two words are written in Arabic the same way except for one minor thing: the word “Sami” has no dots on top of the letter “S”. the word “Shami” has three dots on the same first letter. So the difference between the two words is just three dots on the first letter. Now, the difference in meaning is huge. The word “Sami” in Arabic can be a man’s name, but also means “High in position”. A man with “Sami” morals means a man with high moral values. The word “Shami”, on the other hand, means “Syrian”, or someone from “Sham” (could mean the from the city of Damascus, or from the country of Syria). Here is another example: take the word “Hal” in Arabic (with heavy H). It mean “situation”. In contrast, the word “Khal” may mean “Empty” or “Uncle-on the mother’s side”. Now the difference in writing in the Arabic language between the two words is just one dot on top of the first letter in the word “Khal”. The word “Hal” is not dotted at all. You see, one dot difference can make a huge difference in the meaning of the word in the Arabic language. This huge Qur’anic problem cannot be appreciated by an English reader without live examples. I tried to clarify this matter in the two examples I just mentioned. As if this is not enough, vowels presented another problem for the Muslims. Arabic script is consonantal. Vowels influence the meaning in the Arabic language. They are represented by orthographical signs above or below the letters. So, after settling the problems associated with consonants, Muslims had to decide on which vowels to employ in each case where there is a wording issue. Using different vowel renders a different meaning! The above problems eventually led to the growth of different centers with their own traditions on how the Qur’anic texts should be pointed and vowelized. So, it is clear that Uthman did not succeed in getting rid of the older Qur’anic codices. Charles Adams observes about the Qur’an: …far from being a single text passed down inviolate from the time of ‘Uthman’s commission, literally thousands of variant readings of particular verses were known in the first three (Muslim) centuries. Theses variants affected even the ‘Uthmanic’ codex, making it difficult to know what its true form may have been.”8 In conclusion of this article, I hope that the reader has a realistic sense of the impossibility of trying to ascertain the exact meaning of any “verse” or even “word” in the Qur’an. Multiple genuine problems face us, as we have seen in this article, when we try to ascertain the exact meaning of any part of the Qur’an. In the next article, I will take the reader to the Islamic scholar Ibn Mujahid (d. 935) and discuss his role in canonizing consonants and limiting vowelization in the Qur’an, and discuss ensuing problems.

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4. C. J. Adams, “Quran: The Text and Its History,” in Encyclopedia of Religion, Mircea Eliade, editor-in-chief (NY, London: Macmillan, 1987.), pp. 157-76 5. As-Suyuti, Itqan, part 3, p. 72 6. As-Suyuti, Itqan, part 3, p. 73 [author’s note: this chapter currently has 73 verses] 7. Ibn Warraq, The Origins of the Qur’an (New York, 1998), p.15 8. Ibid.
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MY GOD,I always thought that

MY GOD,I always thought that koran was untouched.THEN WHAT PREVENTS PRESENT ISLAMIC SCHOLARS TO DELETE THE EVIL VERSES.LIKE ANY CONSTITUTION IT CAN BE AMENDED.!!!!!!!!!!!!!


MY GOD,I always thought that

MY GOD,I always thought that koran was untouched.THEN WHAT PREVENTS PRESENT ISLAMIC SCHOLARS TO DELETE THE EVIL VERSES.LIKE ANY CONSTITUTION IT CAN BE AMENDED? You ask bhagwan uvacha
Its the deleted mind of the moscums that prevents them from doing rational things!


The entire non-Muslim worlds

The entire non-Muslim worlds are afraid of two things: (1) a book by the name of Al-Qur’an that is made up of ink and paper, and (2) a man by the name of Muhammad who is long dead!

No one seems to be afraid of the blood thirsty and racist books like Bible and Talmud, or the war manual Gita, or even the Mein Kampf! No one is afraid of Hitler, Stalin, Bush, Atomic Bomb, F-16, etc. either! But they are afraid of Muhammad and the Qur’an! Isn’t the Qur’an the Greatest Miracle and Muhammad the Greatest Influential Personality for all times then??


#3. ApedoMIMe Says -----No

#3. ApedoMIMe Says

-----No one seems to be afraid of the blood thirsty and racist books like Bible and Talmud, or the war manual Gita, or even the Mein Kampf! No one is afraid of Hitler, Stalin,----

And that proves the fact that Islam , Qu'rand and pedo Mo are more evil than the books you have mentioned. One has to fear pure evil like Islam, Qu'rand and MoHamMad. Am I correct baby ?? Ha Ha Ha Ha


"The first part of this study

"The first part of this study opened our eyes to the fact that the Qur’and was not ever collected as “one unit” during the time of MuHamMad "

How can that be " One Unit" ?
We know Qu'rand was written on some stones , bones and other garbages. MoHamMad , Allah Dalla and the Bedouin barbarians had no knowledge of paper or any kind of writing materials. ( forget about the so-called science found in Qu'rand by Jerk off Zakir Naik)

They were wiping their dirty bum/ dick using Odd or Even numbers of stones. Ha Ha Ha Evil Qu'rand was written on such dirty soiled stones. What kind of Knowledge and spirituality one can expect from dirty Qu'rand?? Ha Ha Ha Ha


A great, well-researched

A great, well-researched series of articles by Ibn Kammuna. I eagerly look forward to the next one.

Sadly the majority of Muslims throughout the world will not believe you about the shady origins of their Quran. They actually believe that authentic, original and signed copies by Muhammad of their Quran exist in the Topkapi Museum in Turkey and in the Grand Mosque in Mecca.

But then they also irrationally believe in Muhammad's prophethood, jinns, the sun setting in a muddy pond and other made-up nonsense. And they call their Quran scientific on top of that!


Excellent article.

Excellent article.


AMIM it seems your only

AMIM it seems your only knowledge is copy and paste.


Raja: [AMIM it seems your

Raja:

[AMIM it seems your only knowledge is copy and paste.]

I am following your Gods' tactics. :D


Amim, You are no more a

Amim,
You are no more a muslim now since you are not following allah so congratulations for leaving allah and his paedophile pimp mohammad..


So Raja its time for you to

So Raja its time for you to basically welcome AMIN to hindusim since he has already accepted that he is a convert to Hinduism and that he has left Islam. A good start at that. I can understand how sikening it is to follow a paedophile for your prophet and a pimp for your God.


Hello there .... Can you help

Hello there ....
Can you help me out ? I am also collecting these details myself and I want to know the referenes for the following:
"Let no one of you say that he has acquired the entire Koran for how does he know that it is all? Much of the Koran has been lost, thus let him say, ‘I have acquired of it what is available’” 5 As-Suyuti"

How many verses in the chapter of the Parties?” He said, “Seventy-Three verses.” He (Ubai) told him, “It used to be almost equal to the chapter of the Cow (my addition: 286 verses!!), and included the verse of the stoning.” The man asked, “What is the verse of the stoning?” He (Ubai) said, “If an old man or woman committed adultery, stone them to death.”

I will be really grateful .....

Thanks alot !
and yes nicely written (Y)


To :Komal Hello, and than you

To :Komal
Hello, and than you for the question. I tried to put the references in the bottom of the article, but I may have missed something.
the first reference you are inquiring about is:
`5. As-Suyuti, Itqan, part 3, p. 72

the second reference you are inquiring about is, if my memory is correct, its same previous reference, on the next page (p.73) .

I will check again though. If a mistake, I will report tomorrow to correct. Thanks for your inquiry brother.


Komal, I think this will be

Komal, I think this will be of interest for you to read. just scroll down. Some interesting info.:

http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Qur'an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Corruption_of_the_Qur'an


"No one seems to be afraid of

"No one seems to be afraid of the blood thirsty and racist books like Bible and Talmud, or the war manual Gita, or even the Mein Kampf! “ Amim. Wow ! What a wonder ! Amim, you just forgot the Gospels.

Amim, half of the Quran is plagiarised from The Talmud and the Bible. Even Q:5:32, you quote so often, is plagiarized from Talmud, Mishna Sanhedrin. This verse is at home in the Quran like a calf of dear in a pack of wolves. And Hitler’s Mein Kempf is a best seller in muslim countries and Hitler a hero.