aatif vs FFI Staff II

Printer-friendly versionSend to friendPDF versionTo: FFI Date: 24 Apr 2006 13:29:03 -0000 Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Another Good Joke part 2 1.The draw to the conclusion that u are an atheist. 2.The word in 79:30 is dahaha and not daha.And you may consult any arabic person,he will tell you it also means ostrich egg.Yes,it means "vast expanse" but havent you heard any word which has more than one meanings.In hindi and urdu there are countless. 3.I come back to the surah challenge.So you are telling me that there are more people see your surah on internet than when it will be brought to 1.5 billions. It clearly shows your low confidence in your poems.I have been so much persiting with you about them.Tell me,how much more can I do. And the thing which i am suggesting you,will only benefit you.You have nothing to lose.You will get free publicity ,some more followers. But i know,YOU WILL NO BRING THEM TO JUSTICE. 4.You have been brought into the policies of the west.I have heard many anti muslim incidents in kasmir from many common kasmirs itself. HOW HIPPOCRIATE YOU ARE.How can you expect fair trail if the judge itself is the suspect. Regarding US,the world knows its intensions.Look aroud yourself,now even some west newspapers have started to show the truth. US says its anti of afgan militia but supported it against Russia. US says its anti of Osama but Osama was once a CIA agent in Afganistan And am i lying if the fact that jews kill palestians kids(10 yrs old) with rokects!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I gave you numbers but you didnt agreed. I give you pics but i know you will not agree after that!!!!!!!!!!!! See attachment. 5. Regarding state of muslims.I dont understand you when you say muslims are poor.Look at middle east.Is there any poverty.Yes,there is poverty in muslims but where is it not.Does christrians countires in africa not poor. And if poor is criteria of being from wrong religion does it mean a rich christian is following a differnt religion and a poor christian is following a wrong religion!!!!!!!!!! And if Christian is rich at some time in life and poor in some part of life doest it means he changed its religion!!!!!!!!!!!!! I wonder at your logic!!!!!!!!!!. And dont show me anybody's life.I am proud to be a "observer of signs of All Mighty".Islam did not made my life bad. 6.Now to your favorite question.Why did Muhammad(peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) marry a 9 year old. I know you cant think of this except in a negative sense. ( a)Show me where is it written that Ayisha(may Allah be pleased with her) was forced into this mirrage. (b)Show me that Ayisha(may Allah be pleased with her) had not attained pubertiy before going to Muhammad's(peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) home (c)Show me it was a strange and bad thing to do at that time. (d)One reason is that Muhammad(peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) wanted his life to be recorded perfectly and history showed Ayisha(may Allah be pleased with her) was a bright 9 year old.And the result is also in front.Ayisha(may Allah be pleased with her) is provider of 1000s of recordings (e)20 years back in india,girls got married at 20s.So if some married at 30s,it was strange.But after 20 yeras its not strange to marry in 30s.S On 24 Apr 2006 13:29:03 -0000, aatif xxxxxx  wrote:     1.The draw to the conclusion that u are an atheist. [color=#993300]You may conclude what ever you like.[/color]     2.The word in 79:30 is dahaha and not daha.And you may consult any arabic person,he will tell you it also means ostrich egg.Yes,it means "vast expanse" but havent you heard any word which has more than one meanings.In hindi and urdu there are countless. [color=#993300]I have asked arabic speakers and they laughed.  Again you can believe whatever you like.  Of the 16 or so translation only two and those very recent ones translate it like that.  And there is a lot written on the net about this particular stupidity.  [/color]     3.I come back to the surah challenge.So you are telling me that there are more people see your surah on internet than when it will be brought to 1.5 billions.     It clearly shows your low confidence in your poems.I have been so much persiting with you about them.Tell me,how much more can I do.     And the thing which i am suggesting you,will only benefit you.You have nothing to lose.You will get free publicity ,some more followers.     But i know,YOU WILL NO BRING THEM TO JUSTICE. [color=#993300]Don't be concerned.  There already is free publicity at the suralikeit site, and most muslim arabic scholars have become silent.  Again I educate people, and what they do with that education is upto them.  The reach of the internet is far wider than any printed material could ever acheive.  So printing and distribution is a silly idea. [/color]     4.You have been brought into the policies of the west.I have heard many anti muslim incidents in kasmir from many common kasmirs itself.     HOW HIPPOCRIATE YOU ARE.How can you expect fair trail if the judge itself is the suspect.     Regarding US,the world knows its intensions.Look aroud yourself,now even some west newspapers have started to show the truth.     US says its anti of afgan militia but supported it against Russia.     US says its anti of Osama but Osama was once a CIA agent in Afganistan  [color=#993300]The only free elections held in the muslim lands have been under US.  Is that not amazing?  What the taliban did and how many muslims they killed, does not concern you at all.  What Saddam did and how many muslims he killed does not concern you at all.  How many muslims are killing other muslims in iraq right now, in pakistan, in palestine, in bangladesh, does not concern you at all.  You are only consumed by your hatred of the non-muslims.  But that is what your islam teaches you.  You are incapable of seeing the world, the judge, or simple facts.  Osama was never a CIA agent for example.  That is just lies.  You should learn history a little better, and see what role pakistan, and saudi arabia played in the creation of Al-Qaida and the support of the Taliban. [/color]     And am i lying if the fact that jews kill palestians kids(10 yrs old) with rokects!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [color=#993300]Have you seen the video showing how the palestianian had doctored the videos?  Pallywood they call it.  How many jewish children have been killed in cold blood by the islamic warriors?  Why do you look at only one side?  But then the hatred of the jews is taught to you in the quran, is it not?  Allah turns the jews into apes and pigs,  Allah gives an example of the jews who had disobeyed him and they are to be condemned for ever.  It is understandable that as a muslim you have have been taught to hate the non-muslims.[/color]     I gave you numbers but you didnt agreed.     I give you pics but i know you will not agree after that!!!!!!!!!!!!     See attachment. I[color=#993300] do not know what you are talking about here.  There is no attachment. [/color]     5. Regarding state of muslims.I dont understand you when you say muslims are poor.Look at middle east.Is there any poverty.Yes,there is poverty in muslims but where is it not.Does christrians countires in africa not poor.     And if poor is criteria of being from wrong religion does it mean a rich christian is following a differnt religion and a poor christian is following a wrong religion!!!!!!!!!!     And if Christian is rich at some time in life and poor in some part of life doest it means he changed its religion!!!!!!!!!!!!!     I wonder at your logic!!!!!!!!!!. [color=#993300]Of course you wonder at my logic.  You are unable to see the damage and the harm that islam does.  What ever the quraan says has to be true and if it means that "Ostrich egg" has to be introduced and shooting out of nebula clouds has to be introduced to keep the quraan from being wrong then the muslims will do it.  Science has to be wrong and the quraan has to be right.  Evolution is wrong, because Adam was created only 6000 years ago, geology has to be wrong, physics has to be wrong, chemistry has to be wrong, all becuase quraan has to right.  Educate the people and they will start seeing that the quraan is silly nonsense. [/color]     And dont show me anybody's life.I am proud to be a "observer of signs of All Mighty".Islam did not made my life bad.     6.Now to your favorite question.Why did Muhammad(peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) marry a 9 year old.     I know you cant think of this except in a negative sense.     (     a)Show me where is it written that Ayisha(may Allah be pleased with her) was forced into this mirrage.     (b)Show me that Ayisha(may Allah be pleased with her) had not attained pubertiy before going to Muhammad's(peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) home     (c)Show me it was a strange and bad thing to do at that time.     (d)One reason is that Muhammad(peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) wanted his life to be recorded perfectly and history showed Ayisha(may Allah be pleased with her) was a bright 9 year old.And the result is also in front.Ayisha(may Allah be pleased with her) is provider of 1000s of recordings     (e)20 years back in india,girls got married at 20s.So if some married at 30s,it was strange.But after 20 yeras its not strange to marry in 30s.So perceptions change.         (f)Solomon(may Allah be pleased with her) had more than 100 wives so does that mean he was not good person!!!!     History is full of great personalties that had more wives but it doent mean they were bad persons.     (e)I very nicely observed your "by hook or crook" nature.I did not said that the driver of Mercedez is poor or illetrate.I said he is not a good driver.Rich man could also be a bad driver.     So answer now,     Who is to be blamed: Bad driver or Mercedez?(Plz be logical) [color=#993300]Your  muhammed  is supposed to be a mercy for all mankind and for all time.  Do you think a six year old is capable of deciding whether she should be married or not?  Who cares whether muhammed married her when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine?  Muslims do.  Do you understand because of that example, becuase muhammed is a perfect man, and you as a muslim cannot criticise him, that girls in Islam can still be married off when they are little babies.  That is the reason why in many islamic countries the age of marriage for girls is at first menstruation, and girls as young as 7 are being married off.  That is by any standard immoral and disgusting.  And you are defending that because you a muslim and you have to!!!  Look at the silly excuses you make about Aiesah having to document muhammeds life!!  Muhammed had other wives, many more wives, and many female slaves and many concubines.  Aiesha was not even the longest living wife.  Another wife outlived aiesha by quite a few years.  Silly excuses to cover disgusting immorality.  And you call muslims moral! [/color]     And you say Islam had made muslims poor and backward.So you are telling me a poor,sick, lying on footpath muslims is the best follower of islam and is following evey principle of Islam and is leading a life according to Quran and Hadis and has understood every vese of Quran     And a rich and repectable muslim does not have the above qualities.He is not following Islam.     Really ,I marvel a your logical ability. [color=#993300] I am not saying that.  I am saying Islam impoverishes an entire culture.  Iran used to be a great civilisation and then Islam came and the women are treated like animals, education goes to hell, and killing becomes the main business.  Byzantine use to be a great culture, and then islam happened to those people.  Look at the history of India itself and see how much bloodshed have the muslims caused in India.  Look what islam has done to the central asian countries.  But I doubt you can see.  [/color] To: FFI Date: 11 May 2006 15:46:25 -0000 Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Another Good Joke part 2 I am little busy nowdays.I hope U can understand as I am a student.Don't worry,I will reply U as soon as possible.