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Dec. 05, 2003
Dearest Ali,
Hello! My name is Melissa.
I am a 19 year old Catholic girl, and my boyfriend is Muslim. Its
sort of a huge problem for his family, because they cant seem to accept
anything but their own kind.
I recently purchased a Quran,
because im VERY interested in learning more about the Muslim culture, and
was even thinking about religion. I tried to read it, but its sort
of confusing to me. I was wondering if you might know of a quran
study group or if you can help me in any way.
I would very much appreciate
it. I understand youre extremely busy, but I beg of you to please
try to answer my e-mail. I hope to hear from you soon.
Thank you!
Yours truly,
Melissa
Dear
Melissa,
If the
family of your boyfriend cannot accept anything but their own why in the
world you want to be part of that family? This is a bigoted primitive
thinking family. Get the hell out of that relationship before it is too
late.
You are only
19. This is not time for you to get into any serious relationships. You
need grow and have fun as a young woman. You need to continue your
studies. Have fun, enjoy your youth, it is okay for you to date but never
get into any relationships seriously. If you ask me, I tell you the best
age for marriage is around thirty. By then you have matured enough to know
who you are and what you want. Marriages at younger ages break up with
more frequency.
Then you
wanted to know about the Quran and how to read that book so you can
understand it easier. Well let me tell you that that book cannot be
understood because there is nothing to understand. It is a hodgepodge of
inconsistencies errancies and absurdities mixed with a lot of violence and
evil thought. I do not believe in Satan, but if I did I would say that
book has been inspired by Devil himself.
Finally join
our forum. There you can meet wonderful people who are rational and
intelligent. You will be very happy to know such people exist.
And look to
find someone who can respect you and does not demand you to change. Did
you know that Muslim men think it is their right to beat their wives? That
is what is written in the Quran. Read this site and learn about Islam. We
know Islam from inside. We are the apostates because we saw the face of
devil unmasked. So no one can tell you the truth better that us. And what
I can tell you is RUN, RUN, RUN. That relationship is not good for you.
Run the other way as fast as you can.
Come to the
site and read what other women who like you fell in love with Muslim men
and then lived the nightmare until they got themselves free have written.
You can ask them personal questions and learn from their experiences.
Their experiences can save you a lot of pain.
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Nov. 22, 2003
Dear Mr. Sina
Thank you for your reply. As I know you must surly be very busy caught up
in all this so I was happy to see you had the time to reply. I was a
bit disappointed in Rahee Shahzad last reply. I was hoping he was not
trying to avoid the issues but rather to address them. I posted this on
your forum already and I know where it is now so no need to repost this
email. I also promote your site. I think its great!
I typed www.faithfreedom.com
instead of .org by mistake today. LOL what's all that stuff about? Friends
of yours? I guess you make quite a few enemies with what you write but its
people that you that can make differences and that normally involves some
turbulence. Its great you got the guts to stand up and say something. With
your in-depth knowledge about Islam there seem to be none that can match
you so far. I have read another of your debates tonight (Dr. Nader
Pourhassan) but saw no reply after part one. Did it end there?
Thank you again for excellent material on your
site.
Best regards, Morten
Dear
Morten.
Thank
you for promoting the site. It is important to reach everyone and I rely
on people like you to do that.
Actually
winning the Muslims is easy. Anyone can do that. Anyone can win when he is
standing in the position of power with all the arsenals at his disposition
when his opponent is standing below throwing stone. It is like I am
standing on top of the hill while the Muslims are below. All I have to do
is to kick a rock and it will role down knocking anyone in its path. Those
guys can throw the rocks but it not only cannot reach me, it eventually
rolls back to hit them. I hope this imagery makes the point clear. I win
all the debates not because I am any more intelligent than these guys but
because I fight from the position that cannot be defeated and they fight
from the position that cannot be defended.
As for
Pourhassan, he wrote a 75 page response that I have to answer yet. But
frankly it is so boring that I do not have the enthusiasm to answer.
However this gentleman is now going to the Iranian televisions bragging
that he has won the debate and that is why I have not responded him. So a
response is in the way.
The
trial Humanity vs. Muhammad bin Abdallah also is not over. Mr. Shahbaz is
a good debater and actually I like him better now than when we started. I
think this debate is going to be very interesting.
Regards
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Nov. 22, 2003
Dear Mr. Sina
Thank you for your reply. As I know you must surly be very busy caught up
in all this so I was happy to see you had the time to reply. I was a
bit disappointed in Rahee Shahzad last reply. I was hoping he was not
trying to avoid the issues but rather to address them. I posted this on
your forum already and I know where it is now so no need to repost this
email. I also promote your site. I think its great!
I typed www.faithfreedom.com
instead of .org by mistake today. LOL what's all that stuff about? Friends
of yours? I guess you make quite a few enemies with what you write but its
people that you that can make differences and that normally involves some
turbulence. Its great you got the guts to stand up and say something. With
your in-depth knowledge about Islam there seem to be none that can match
you so far. I have read another of your debates tonight (Dr. Nader
Pourhassan) but saw no reply after part one. Did it end there?
Thank you again for excellent material on your
site.
Best regards, Morten
Dear
Morten.
Thank
you for promoting the site. It is important to reach everyone and I rely
on people like you to do that.
Actually
winning the Muslims is easy. Anyone can do that. Anyone can win when he is
standing in the position of power with all the arsenals at his disposition
when his opponent is standing below throwing stone. It is like I am
standing on top of the hill while the Muslims are below. All I have to do
is to kick a rock and it will role down knocking anyone in its path. Those
guys can throw the rocks but it not only cannot reach me, it eventually
rolls back to hit them. I hope this imagery makes the point clear. I win
all the debates not because I am any more intelligent than these guys but
because I fight from the position that cannot be defeated and they fight
from the position that cannot be defended.
As for
Pourhassan, he wrote a 75 page response that I have to answer yet. But
frankly it is so boring that I do not have the enthusiasm to answer.
However this gentleman is now going to the Iranian televisions bragging
that he has won the debate and that is why I have not responded him. So a
response is in the way.
The
trial Humanity vs. Muhammad bin Abdallah also is not over. Mr. Shahbaz is
a good debater and actually I like him better now than when we started. I
think this debate is going to be very interesting.
Regards
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Nov. 21, 2003
To the staff at faithfreedom,
If you read this and have the time to answer
my question, i will be happy. If you don't
I Understand.
My question is based on the following
observation. The number of young girls who
converts to islam in the west have gone up in recent years, which worries
me quite a lot. In Denmark we experience that 2% of a generation of young
females embrace Islam.
Therefore I need to ask about your experience
that you get from converts. How many will
eventually discover that it is all a lie. Is it only a small fraction, or
can we expect that they remain muslims the rest of their lives.
Sincerely
André
The majority of those who
convert become disillusioned and leave Islam within a few years. They get
older and wiser and soon see the ugliness of Islam from within. However
leaving Islam without an aid is very difficult. Islam creates a tremendous
fear of punishment that even the thought of leaving it becomes impossible.
Of course if these people receive support, i.e. if they are given the
truth about Islam, leaving it becomes much more easier. In fact truth is
the best way to prevent these young girls of becoming the victims of Islam
in the first place.
The sites such as FFI are a
big help, but also we have to stop the PeeCee culture and start talking
about Islam openly just as we talk about anything else. Why it is okay to
critique Nazism, Communism, Christianity or any other ideology while
critiquing Islam is taboo? Of course Islamic hooliganism and threats have
a lot to do with it. But if we are afraid of Muslims now what we would do
if we let them grow among us and become more powerful?
Ali Sina
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Nov. 10, 2003
HI
MR SINA
I live in Pakistan and i ama great fan of yours and hate islam more than
any one else in this world i am a regular reader of your site and all the
artiucles a great now i can answer all the fale facts and figures of so
called muslims thaks to u now i also dont find my self alone in this
country of muslim animals.I know my mail has no new thing for me and u
will not be able to answer my mail due to lack of timebut i wantedto tell
u all these things wheich were in my heart for u.
I
want to do some thing in this strugle please tell me wat can i do for this
by living in this country i must tell u one thing as muslims can sacrifice
there lives for the evil idealogy of islam just like that i can sacrifice
my life for fighting against this evil.
your
responce will give me a lot of moral support if it is poissible.
YOUR
TRUE FOLLOWER.
Dear
Yasser,
Thank you for the email. There are two points that I would like to answer.
First is that as a freethinker you should not be the follower of anyone.
That is the nature of being a freethinker. If you are a follower, even the
follower of a freethinker, then you can’t call yourself a freethinker.
That is why the religious people, no matter how intelligent they may be,
as long as they are followers, they are not freethinkers.
The other
point is about sacrifice. Of course sacrifice is necessary for the
progress of any cause. However Muslims sacrifice their lives because Islam
is a cult and Muhammad was an evil man who had no regards for the lives of
the people. He himself was not willing to sacrifice his own life.
He escaped from the perceived dangers. In fact he was paranoid. He
imagined that the Quraysh had plans to kill him when the evidence shows
that the Quraysh had never harmed any Muslims. If fact they were tolerant
of people’s beliefs. They were angry of him insulting their religion but
never retaliated or kill any Muslim for that matter. Muhammad was the one
who started the hostilities by raiding their caravans and killing their
men.
Muhammad
himself never took part in any battle, he used to stand behind the army
and tell others to fight and get killed for him. He used to wear two
armors one on top of the other, that made him so heavy that he could not
walk without the help of others. He sent others to get killed to promote
his cause and make his dreams of grandiosity come true. As freethinker we
do sacrifice our time and comfort to fight ignorance but we do not
sacrifice our lives. We celebrate life not death. Heroism is staying safe.
Putting your life in danger is not heroism but stupidity. That is more
befitting for brainwashed people not for intelligent people.
Please
join the forum of this site and meet other freethinkers. We are there to
support each other and exchange ideas and strategies
Take care
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September 18 2003
Dear Ali Sina,
2 Years have now gone by since that terrible
day that was 9/11. Luckily there are a few courageous people like
yourself who are willing to tell the truth about Islam. Having
been raised and educated in the United States, even though there is
definite prejudices between groups, the educational process here did
nothing to give me a negative image of Islam. Indeed I was both
troubled and puzzled by the conflict in the Middle East believing that
the 3 monotheistic religions had the same basic values of tolerance,
love, and respect. Why couldn't they, as the saying goes, just get
along? In addition I think that many people, my self included,
were blissfully unaware of the violence caused by Islam from Nigeria to
the Phillipines. Fanatics, fundamentalists who just happened to
get it wrong as Islam meant "peace"...
What I am now going to relate to you will sound
quite strange. I have always tried to be aware of human suffering
and have tried in my own small way to alleviate it. In March of
2001 I read an article about the genocide and enslavement of the
Christian and animists of the Southern Sudan by the Arab Muslims of the
North of that country. After reading the article I wrote an e-mail
to the author of the article who put me in contact with a group that
helps these poor unfortunate souls. After 9/11, several months
later, I again found and reread the article. Throughout its
several paragraphs were clear references to "Islamic
Terrorism", jihad, etc., etc. It was unsettling that this
type of thing has been going on for so long that it took the tragedy in
NYC and Washington DC to make people notice.
I do not know if anyone has ever made this
point to you before but one of the most troubling aspects of Islam is
this: The Arabs in Mohammed's armies although powerful certainly
could not have matched in size the vast populations they overtook.
Obviously the vast majority of Muslims, although undoubtedly mixed with
the Arab armies, are descended from the pagan Arabs, Jews, Christians
(Copts, Assyrians, Maronites), Zoroasterians, Hindus, Buddhists, etc.,
etc. who were compelled to "submit" to peaceful,
tolerant Islam. Although we should love humanity how can it be
possible when these people were taught to hate their own families?
A good book that explains this is "Indigenous People Under
Islam" by Frederick Isaac, an Assyrian Christian. If someone
were able to explain this cogently to at least some open-minded,
intelligent Muslims perhaps some head way could be made.
I'm sure you will agree that it is both
troubling and also a bit humorous to see the extent to which Muslims in
the United States go to portray Islam as peaceful and tolerant.
Being a bit of a gadfly I could not help calling CAIR (Council of
American Islamic Relations). I read on their website how they were
sponsering a candlelight vigil as a tribute to the victims of 9/11.
I called the person setting it up and suggested that CAIR might
publically make a statement apologizing for the numerous atorcities
caused by Islam through the ages. I think the gentleman was a bit
stunned at how many I could list. Needless to say I don't think
any mention was made at their ecumenical gathering.
I also recently called an Islamic Informational Number, 1-877-WHYISLAM.
I spoke to a representative for about 45 minutes concerning the many
things that trouble me about Islam. (It would be difficult to tell
if the person was brainwashed or just plain lying.) When I
mentioned the Hadith about the murder of the poetess Asma in front of
her several children I went on to ask how such a horrorific act could be
the act of a loving, peaceful, tolerant person. The representative
answered by saying that Islam is a very "proactive" religion
and that there cannot be peace before there is justice. Dear Mr.
Sina, you certainly do have your work cut out for you...
Best Wishes (Towards a truly peaceful world...),
MT
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Sep. 7, 2003
Just a few quick questions. I am
curious to know what the ex-muslims
(yourselves) behind this site converted to? Are you Christian now,
or
what is it? Also, I'm very interested in getting in contact
with
ex-muslims, can you put me into contact with some. I'm hoping I can
get on
messenger with a few to ask questions about what lef them to leave
the
faith. I'm a Christian, and I'm trying to witness to muslim friends,
so
I'd like to get in contact with ex-muslim Christians, but even just
ex-muslims would be great too. Thanks.
Thanks,
Derek from Saskatchewan
Dear Derek,
Most of the ex-Muslims
have become humanists and often they do reject all the religions. Some of
them have converted to Christianity or other religions. You can meet them
in our forum.
If you want to discuss
Christianity and invite them to your faith you are most welcome to do so
in the Christian section of the forum. Discussions about all religions are
free. However be prepared for harsh criticisms as well. People in the
forum are sharp and they are merciless when it comes to criticizing
beliefs. No belief is off limit and at the same time no belief is above
criticism. So do join and promote your faith. However I warn you that
these people are ruthless when it comes to dissecting beliefs. They
basically mince them to pieces. If you think you are up to the challenge,
here is your chance. There is a section dedicated to Christianity.
As for what is my
religion, you can read the
answer
here:
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i know that my email is rather long,
but please, please read on as i am desperate to
tell you just how much i appreciate your work.
Respected Ali Sina, i am an ex-christian,
son of a clergyman, and hater of muhammad and
islam. all throughout my life i have been poisoned against islam
by my parents(my grandparents were all muslims, and one hindu
who converted to christianity) but that did not bring me to
accept christianity blindly. i hate all
institutionalised religions, especially islam.....because of its
teachings of violence and hate. i know this makes me somewhat of
a hypocrite because i have the emotion of hate in my heart
(mind, just like muhammad), but i cannot help hating muhammad
for making the lives of so many people miserable. i live in
pakistan and all my friends are muslims. i have found them to be
just like anybody else...no different from christians or jews or
hindus who believe blindly. i wanted to do something to expose
the reality of islam but that is proving very difficult: i am
not very well read on the subject and rely on websites like
yours for info. i am afraid that before long the pakistani
authorities will firewall your site and i wont be able to write
to you. if i had a million dollars to give to charity, i would
give most of it to your site. your site is very good and i will
definitely recommend it to my friends...those ones who have the
brains to think beyound what their parents(or the quran) has
taught them. anyway. i cannot explain just how happy i am to
have come across your site. i am so excited that my thoughts
and writing are both inconsistent and haphazard. i
will write to you again when my adrenalin level has normalized,
until then i wish you the very best of health, understanding,
strength and wisdom to carry on your good work.
please do not judge me by my
first email as i am very excited as i write this and i know that
my thoughts are all jumbled up. i hope you understand.
i will definitely write to you
again....
if you can, please tell me what
nationality you are. if you cannot tell me its ok, i understand
your need to be secretive....i live among muslims and i know
what they would like to do to people who have left islam and
people who like you and i who want to expose the real islam.
once again, best of luck in all your
work.
Dear ...
Of course you are
not a hypocrite to hate Islam. Muhammad told his followers to
hate people who do not believe in his lies and kill them. To
hate this abhorrent teaching is the most honorable thing one can
do. Good people do hate Islam just as they hate Nazism. We have
to be hateful of ignorance, violence, arrogance, oppression,
discrimination and terrorism. Islam is all these things. So a
hypocrite is one who does not hate Islam. The person who hate
this cult of hate is not a hypocrite but one who loves
mankind.
Please enjoy reading
the site and recommend it to your friends, but be careful not to
be overly carried away and do not get the false sense of
security. After all you live in Pakistan and if you introduce
this site to someone, you could be killed for it.
If you want to make
your Muslim friends read this site send the URL of this site to
them via email anonymously. And if you even happen to discuss
this site with any Muslim never be supportive of it. Just say
you know about it but you hope a Muslim will eventually will
answer those charges. Never demonstrate your enthusiasm of this
site. It is better to be safe than sorry.
I hope in future we
will have a news service via email for all those who may not be
able to reach us because of censorship.
I am an Iranian.
Iranians are leaving Islam in big numbers.
Best wishes
Ali Sina
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June 5, 2003
Hello there again, i have been researching more into
religion and i still believe that we were created by some intelligence,
there is no doubt about that, i am sure that no evolution has taken place,
we may be similar to apes, but we have a soul and we are a special
creation. In turn this still leads me to think that there is a correct
religion out ther, but i am having doubts about islam and i find it hard
to pull away for certain reasons...
One of these reasons is the code on number 19. I have
read your articles on it, but it just makes so much sense, over it is
19..... and it is supposed to stregnthen the faith of the faithfull,
convince people that it is a
divine scripture etc. I know that u dont think it is amazing orneeds the
use of a computer, but i think that u have missed out some important
aspects, for example [1] Sura 1 is God's gift to us, to establish contact
with Him (Salat).
Write the sura number and the number of verses next
to each other and you get 17, the total number of units in the 5 daily
prayers.
[2] Let us write down the sura number, followed by
the number of each verse in the sura. This is what we get:1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7.
This number is a multiple of 19.
[3] Now, let us replace each verse number by the
number of letters in that verse. This is what we get:1 19 17 12 11 19 18
43 also a multiple of 19.Theoretically, one can alter the letters of Sura
1, and still keep the same number of letters, however, the following
mathematical phenomena rule out that possibility. For the gematrical value
of every single letter is taken into consideration. Here it is:
[4] Let us include the gematrical value of every
verse, and write it down following the number of letters in each verse:1
19 786 17 581 12 618 11 241 19 836 18 1072 43 6009 also a multiple of 19.
[5] Now, let us add the number of each verse,
followed by the number of letters in that verse, then the gematrical value
of that verse.This is what we get:1 1 19 786 2 17 581 3 12 618 4 11 241 5
19 836 6 18 1072 7 43 6009a multiple of 19.
And then there is the code 19 regarding the first
verse of the quran, there are loads of long numbers and it is all amazing.
Then there is the major thing that u missed out and
have not mentioned, this is the realy realy long numbers that are
multiples of 19. For example,
7 1234567 286 12345...286 ...5 12345 6 123456
FIRST No: This very long number consists of 12692
digits (19x668) and includes every verse in the Quran. The number of
verses in each sura precedes its verses. A special computer program that
divides very long numbers has shown that this long number is a multiple of
19.
and
1234567 7 12345...286 286 12345 5...123456 6 6234
SECOND No: The number of every verse in every sura is
foll-owed by the number of verses per sura. The last 11 digits shown here
are the 6 verses of the last sura, followed byits number of verses (6),
followed by the total number of numbered verses in the Quran (6234). The
complete, very long number, is a multiple of 19.
and
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 1 7 12345 ... 286 2 286 ...123456 114 6
6234
THIRD No: The number of every verse, followed by the
sura number, then the number of verses in the sura. The total number of
numbered verses is added at the end. The long number (12930 digits) is a
multiple of 19.
There are 15 long long numbers that involve the
chapters and verses, there is
even a programme that i have been on that confirms that these are all
multiples of 19. There is no way that it is a hoax, and there is no way
mohammed could have composed this, which in turn proves that if all these
are multiples of 19, the initialed chapters also being a multiple of 19 is
no coincidence. I suggest u check it out!!
Anyway, i want to know if u are skeptical about these
numbers and why u believe that the quran could not be a coded book.
Like i said before, i am certain that there is a god,
and we may think that the quran is a bit strange, but the code just makes
it seem so apparant that it is from god, is there any other explination. I
still believe that we are created, and if u dont believe this, there is no
way u will ever belive in the scriptures.
There is no way, not even in 10 billion years that a
camel could make itself, the creation is just proof that god is there,
however blind u may be to this.
If there is no religion, what is the point in our
lives, is it just to live and die, it just makes no sense.
I hope u can reply to this mail, as i want to know
your views, thankyou very much, peace
Dear Dave.
My point in making this site is
not to prove that there is no God. Personally I do believe in God although
my understanding of God is different from that preached by the Middle
Eastern religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam). I believe in a
principle and not in a being as the author of this universe. However as I
said this is not relevant to the subject of Islam. If you think that God
is a being and he created this world like a carpenter would make a table;
that is fine. There are many good people who believe in such a god. I am
not here to disprove the existence of God as a being nor I am interested
to prove that this universe is the product of evolution. Evolution is a
subject of science. It is foolish for laymen to reject science when they
have no understanding of it. This subject is proven and anyone interested
should read the scientific books. The place to refute the evolution is the
academic circle and not between people who understand nothing of science.
However if you do not want to read those books and if you are more
comfortable to wear your blinders than taking them off that is fine. Let
us assume that there is a God sitting in the heaven who has prepared this
show for his entertainment. The point that I want to make is that Islam is
not a religion of God and not that God does not exist or creationists are
wrong.
Now, what about the so-called
numerical miracles of the Quran? I already explained that there are no
such numerical miracles. Did you read these articles?
http://main.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/numerical_miracles.htm
http://main.faithfreedom.org/Articles/Hikmat/miracle19.htm
http://skepdic.com/lawofnumbers.html
Did you know that there are
numerical miracles in the Bible too?
http://www.greaterthings.com/Word-Number/CenterofBible/Psalm118.htm
Yet Muhammad said that the
Bible is corrupted. If it is corrupted how come there are numerical
miracles in it?
Let us also assume that Quran
contains numerical wonders. How this proves that this book is from God?
Muslims believe that there are other shadowy creatures like Satan, demons
and Jinns. How do we know that the Quran is not the work of one of these
intelligent yet evil characters?
When you crack down the puzzle
to its elements, it becomes very easy to solve it. Quran cannot be from
God because it contains many stupid verses, many violent and inhumane
teachings and many absurdities. Quran says that the Earth is flat, that
the mountains are pegs to keep it from shaking, that the stars are
missiles to shoot the Jinns (who climb on each other’s shoulders to form
a tower to reach the heaven and eavesdrop the conversation of the Assembly
on High), that the moon is above the stars, that the fetus is generated
from the backbone, that moon was split it two halves in Mecca and many
other asinine verses. There is no way that this ridiculous book is from
God. The author of the Quran indeed must have been an idiot of the first
category. How can we attribute these stupid verses to the maker of this
universe?
Therefore it is clear that
Quran is not from God, it is a book full of violence and hate. God cannot
be so hateful. If God wanted to kill those who disbelieve in him he could
have done it himself, why would he need us to make war with our fellow
human beings and become murderers to prove our devotion to him? All these
show that Allah is not God but a demon. It shows that Muhammad was
possessed by an evil force. If you say that Quran contains numerical
marvels it is because Allah is an astute devil. May be he is Satan who is
impersonating himself as God to destroy this world and lead people to his
hell. How do we know that the angel who appeared to Muhammad was not
Lucifer? The so-called numerical miracles of the Quran are a trick of this
malevolent evil spirit to fool the gullible and confound the foolhardy.
Quran is not from God because it is an evil book. If it contains numerical
marvels, then it must be from Satan. This is the point that you have to
focus on.
If someone claims to be a
physician you want to see whether he knows how to cure you. If he has no
idea about human anatomy and everything he says prove to be wrong you know
that he is an impostor and not a doctor.
Now suppose this impostor pulls out a deck of cards from his pocket
and performs an impossible magic in front of your eyes. Doses this show
that he is a doctor? Of course not! He could be a good magician but as
long as he knows nothing about human pathology you are not going to trust
him as a doctor. The proof of
a messenger of God is that he brings love among the people, does good
things and lives a saintly life. Muhammad lived a life of a gangster and a
marauding warlord. He raided unarmed civilians, murdered innocent people,
looted their belongings, raped their wives and children and enslaved them.
This is not what a messenger of God would do. But a messenger of Satan may
do such things. So do not let these cheap tricks fool you. If there are
numerical marvels in the Quran indeed, this is proof that this book is
from Satan. This is even worse. I think it is better to be the follower of
a crazy schizophrenic self-styled prophet than be the follower of Satan.
It is up to you my friend. If
you believe in God, you agree with me that he gave you a brain. If you
fail to use it and instead fall prey to the envoy of Satan because he
confounded you with some cheap numerical thrills, then you have betrayed
the trust of God. Do you really want to be a follower of Satan?
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May 24, 2003
Hello
again, i must thank you for trying to help me but even though i have read
your replies, i stell cant pull myself away from religion, due to the fact
that i still feel that god is there and whether he did it throgh creation
or not, he has created us. I see only superficial similarities between
apes and man.
Since
discovering your website i have been speaking to many people on the
internet who claim that islam is a made up religion and is a bad one, but
how can we be sure that the quran is not from god, how do we know that the
torah and the bible are also from god as the quran claims they are.
Is
islam really that bed a religion, im sure that people like the taliban are
not following the quran alone, as we are meant to, they are making up
their own ways of life. When i read the whole quran and dont take words
out of context it appears to be quite a good book, and i have read it so
many times, i find it hard to believe anything else, for example, jesus is
clearly stated as a prophet in the quran, not the son of god, so when i
speak to christians i cant really see their point of view. I think i have
been brainwashed, and there is nothing i can do about it..
but
like i said, how do we know that god has not sent messangers and prophets
to guide us out of darkness into the light, how can u be certain that the
quran is not from god, even though there is evidence supporting the fact
that it is a bit dodgy, the fact that it mentions hell so much has scared
me to pull away from it, i think, what if it really is true....
Quotes
from quran, "what if this realy is from god and you decide to reject
it!" "we created the human being from a tiny drop and he turns
into an ardent opponent"
There
is no escape for me... I am trying to look into other religions to see if
they make any sense, but my mind seems to be fixed on the quran, and the
fear of disobeying god and going to hell scares me. I may go and see a
psychiatrist and see what they can do, because it occupies my mind nearly
all of the day. Religion seems to be good and nice, but like i said, it
could be the truth, and there are many people out there who are not
willing to risk going to hell.
If
you can help me any more please reply, but if you cant i will have to look
elswhere.
Thankyou
for your time and help,
Peace
Dear Dave,
A Chinese
proverb says: The journey of a thousand miles starts with the first step.
Another proverb says you can eat a camel one bite at a time. (If this last
one is not a proverb, it should be). Let us make this camel-size dilemma
bite size. Let us assume that there is a God who created this world and
let us assume that the scientists have it wrong when they talk about
evolution. Let us concentrate on Islam and Muhammad only.
Was Muhammad
a messenger of God? Did he tell the truth? This is not difficult to find
out. You say evolution is impossible. Now see what Muhammad said about the
Jews.
5.60
Say: "Shall I point
out to you something much worse than this, (as judged) by the treatment it
received from Allah? those who incurred the curse of Allah and His wrath,
those of whom some He transformed into apes and swine, those who
worshipped evil;- these are (many times) worse in rank, and far more
astray from the even path!"
This
nonsense is repeated also in other parts of the Quran: (2.65,
7.166)
Do you think it is possible to transform humans into après and swine?
Isn’t this the most stupid statement one could make? Doesn’t this show
that Muhammad and his followers were a bunch of idiots?
The
stars and the moon The Qur'an teaches that there are seven heavens one
above the other [67:3,
71:15],
and that the stars are in the lower heaven [67:5,
37:6
, 41:12],
but the moon is depicted as being in/inside the seven heavens [71:16],
Doesn’t
this prove again that Muhammad was not a prophet but a charlatan liar?
Here is a
list of some of he errors of he Quran:
http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/index.html#external
Can
possibly the author of this universe be so ignorant to write a book like
the Quran so full of errors?
It is clear
that Muhammad was not a messenger of God. Therefore, if everything he said
about this world is proven to be wrong, why should anyone in his right
mind believe this man and his talk about the afterlife?
Now let us
take a close look at the afterlife as described by Muhammad. He spoke of a
heaven with carnal pleasures such as wines, fruits and abundant sex
(things that to desert dweller barbarians were important) and a hell of
blazing fire. Do these really make sense? Sex is for procreation and not
for recreation. Why would dead people need sex organs in the next world if
no perpetuation of the species is contemplated? Muhammad describes the
paradise as a physical/geographical place where buried bones will rejoin
to form the body and then go to paradise or hell. Where is this paradise?
Our knowledge of the universe is much more than the Arabs who believed in
Muhammad. Has this place been seen?
Muhammad
spoke so many times about hell, frightening people that if they do not
believe in his lies his imaginary friend would burn them for eternity. Is
this logical? Why God is so desperate to be worshipped? Muslims say
worshipping Allah is for our own good and it does not affect him. However
Muhammad says that those who fail to worship his Allah will be burned in
the fire of hell for eternity. So obviously this Allah is very much
offended in order to avenge this lack of attention. Isn’t this a needy
god? Isn’t Allah a desperate psychopath? Burning is extremely painful
even for one second. Now imagine burning for eternity. This is the
ultimate form of sadism. Do you think the maker of this universe is a
sadist? This simply makes no
sense. Even if there is a God who created this world, Allah cannot be it.
Muhammad
used fear to control people and to dominate them. Fear is the most
powerful instrument to make people do things that otherwise they would not
do. So people are willing to accept any absurdity because they are afraid
to doubt and they fear the eternal fire. This man was not a normal human
being. He was a narcissist. This is a psychological disorder. Narcissists
are master manipulators and they have no conscience. They lie and they are
the first to believe in their lies. They are good to those who serve their
purpose and supply their narcissistic needs, but they easily would kill
any number of people if they stand in their way and their scheme of
grandiosity. Hitler, Stalin and Saddam were more famous narcissists.
Muhammad was no different.
I have made
a sketch of Muhammad’s psychological pathology. Please take a look.
http://main.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/force_behind_mo.htm
Forget
about evolution/creation dilemma for now. Concentrate on Muhammad and
discover that this man was not a messenger of God but a charlatan and
indeed an evil psychopath. There is ample evidence in the Quran to prove
this. Once you come to see that Muhammad was an impostor, the rest is
easy.
You
say that you are brainwashed by Islam and there is no escape for you. Yes
you are brainwashed, but there is escape. I was brainwashed too but I
managed to regain my senses. In my case my parents and my society had
brainwashed me, in your case you did this to yourself. So for you it must
be much easier to free yourself from Islam. You say you read the books of
HarunYahya and the Quran many times. Why you did not read some other books
to see what others have to say? It is obvious that when you stand in one
place you have only one point of view, while if you more around you can
see things from different points of views your understanding is amplified.
However, the very fact that you are reading this site and talking with
people who are not Muslims is a good sign because you are listening to
people who have different viewpoints and in this way you get a better and
a more comprehensive view of things.
You
wrote:
“im
sure that people like the taliban are not following the quran alone, as we
are meant to, they are making up their own ways of life”
How
can you say that you are sure? These terrorists read the Quran and try to
follow it to the letter. They respond to calls such as these:
9:111,
Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for
theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause,
and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the
Law, the Gospel, and the Qur’an.
There
are hundreds of verses like this in the Quran.
You
wrote:
"When
i read the whole quran and dont take words out of context it appears to be
quite a good book,"
Do
you think this verse is good?
9:29,
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that
forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor
acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the
Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel
themselves subdued.
Or
this one?
2:223
Your women are a tilt for you (to cultivate) so go to your tilt as ye
will, and send (good deeds) before you for your souls, and fear Allah, and
know that ye will (one day) meet Him. Give glad tidings to believers, (O
Muhammad
How
abut this one:
4:34,
Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to
excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the
support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that
which Allah hath guarded. As for those
from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart,
and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against
them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great.
Take
a look at this collection, read them “in the context” and tell me what
part of these verses is good? http://main.faithfreedom.org/Articles/quran_teaches.htm
There
is nothing good in the Quran. This book is the cause of all the ills of
the Muslims. Once you realize that Muhammad was not a messenger of God but
a liar and a psychopath, you’ll stop fearing and instead you’ll feel
sorry for the poor Muslims who still believe in this garbage.
Please
read the articles I pointed out. Exposing yourself to the truth is the
only way to get rid of your trauma. I do not think you need to see a
psychologist. All you have to do is go through the articles in my site and
you’ll be free before you know it. Also join the forum and meet many
other who have been in your situation and know what you go through. There
are sites that try to help the former cult member trying to recover. They
will help you see that you are not alone. Islam is a cult and you need
help to get rid of it. Make a google search with “cult recovery”. This
is what I found.
http://www.refocus.org/
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May 20, 2003
Dear
Mr. Sina.
Any
time we read about Mohammad, it starts with:
His
father died before he was born. His mother died when he was 5. His uncle
took care of him, but he died too. So he went under protection of his
other uncle. His life story almost stops here and then starts when he is
40 and starts to invite people to Islam.
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As
it is obvious, most of the Islamic writers and historian are biggest
layers in the history of the mankind. This is basically true because the
fears they had from the rollers of their time. They have to make sure to
writ something that the rollers like, even if it is not based on facts and
true. That is why we see a lot of none since in Islamic writing and no
facts, even to day.
I
have not found any book, on the life of Mohammad between age 18 and 40. I
am interested to be informed,what he was doing during these years, and how
he got his education, in spit of that, mulems were told he was illiterate.
I believe he was not. He was well educated and he was well informed about
his time, religions and governments and political system of the day. And
before he claimed his prophesy he had collaboration with Abobaker and Omar
and have had well organized system ready to lunch. And the subject of his
illiteracy was decided by this three men before he declare he is profit,
because this will give them better bust.
As
we know when Mohammad was dieing and starching on his bed, asked for,
paper, ink and pen, but Omar refused to give him. I think the reason Omer
refused his wishes, was right, otherwise their doctrines would not have
religious preference.
If
books be written on subject of Mohammad’s literacy and where about he
was during those years, it would be big help for people to understand
Mohammed was nothing but clever con man.
If
you know of sources for that kind of information please let me and others
to know.
Regards
and (Mofagh Bashied)
Sia
Dear
Sia.
The
reason you have not heard anything about Muhammad before he reached the
age of 40 is because there is little written about him. This shows that he
did not impress anyone and no one paid any attention to him. There are
scattered stories about him crying when his uncle wanted to go to Sham for
business and then some fables about a cloud accompanying him and shading
him all the way from Mecca to Syria and back and that a Monk approached
his uncle and told him about the august destiny of his nephew. Of course
these are pure fabrications because as we know Muhammad’s uncles never
accepted Islam and died in disbelief. If he really had seen this miracle
of the cloud and if there was ever a monk telling him about Muhammad’s
special position, he surely would have believed. However, Abu Talib loved
Muhammad and defended him all his life as a nephew but never accepted him
as a prophet.
There
is again another story of Muhammad participating in a war known as
Sacrilegious where he actually never fought but used to collect the arrows
thrown by the enemy for his uncle. He was about twenty at that time.
Muhammad actually never fought personally. He used to wear two armors on
top of each other in his Ghazwahs (raids) that would make him so heavy
that he needed the help of two men to walk around. He used to stay back
and encourage the Muslims to sacrifice their lives for him.
There
is really very little written about Muhammad until he reached the age of
40. Sir William Muir has a chapter dedicated to his period. But the
information about Muhammad is scant.
http://www.answering-islam.org.uk/Books/Muir/Life2/chap2.htm
Yes
it is very likely that Muhammad knew how to write and read. His family was
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