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Jan, 17, 2002
Thank You For Creating Your Website.
Finally, The Truth Is Told About these
Sadistic, Sub Intelligent Fools.
I'm putting a link to Your Site on My Page.
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If You Ever Need Anything ...
Write me and I'll do my very best to help you.
Keep The Truth Alive.
Yours Truly,
Al Afraim
12 Jan 2002
Dear Sir,
FIrst of all i would like to congratulate you on your marvellous website. It
was a real eye opener to see your testimonies section. I had no idea that people
were leaving Islam. All you ever hear about is how it is the fastest growing
religion in the world. I never knew about the flip side to Islam.
I was wondering you had any knowledge on how many people have left Islam. If
you could maybe enlighten me or point me in the right direction i would be most
grateful.
Keep up the good work.
Anil London
Dear Anil,
Thank you for your kind letter. Of
course those who leave Islam do not usually announce it for very obvious
reasons. But take a look at the discussions in any Iranian forum. You’ll see
that more than half of the participants hate Islam. Internet is a safe place for
people to announce their dissent form Islam. I can tell you with certainly that
when this criminal Islamic regime ruling in Iran is toppled, Islam as a religion
will also be toppled there and this will definitely influence other Islamic
countries just as the Islamic revival of Iran influenced them more than two
decades ago.
If you want to have a feel of what
the ex-Muslims say, please join our egroup at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mukto-mona/
Kind regards
Ali Sina
Jan, 11, 2002
You're welcome Ali, and thanks for the invitation to join
the forum.
I did join up over the last weekend, I have been reading
there and at the Iranian forum you've also linked. I was very curious about your
debate with Pahlavi which Nna mentioned in your readers comments section, so I
read those posts last night. I agree whole heartedly with you in your responses
to Mr. Pahlavi.
Here's a recent story of him in the New Republic, a decent
political magazine.
http://www.tnr.com/011402/foer011402.html
Now it's hard to think that I've only been reading your
site since 11/20, I've collapsed many beliefs of mine since then. So far I've
read a little more now than about half of your articles and often they would
inspire a whirlwind of thought only to see that you've already been there with
similar thoughts when I read the next article. Our "paths" in life are
similar in that when I was 13 my parents divorced which began my fall from
Catholic grace. One of my first teachers then was John Powell whom I met soon
after the divorce. He is a Jesuit who also wrote "The Secret of Staying in
Love." Excellent book. Gandhi is also my teacher, I remember getting chills
up my spine watching the movie with Ben Kingsley. I also get the same feeling
reading Martin Luther Kings speeches and so on.
I'm not a religious person today but the experience is
interesting, similar to your spiritual experience you've written about. I even
get shivers when I hear the last two parts of that song Free Will...Each of
us...
Anyway, I was a college freshman during the Islamic
revolution and I always like to keep up with current events. Witnessing the
Iran/Iraq war and listening to "freethinking" bands like Rush back
then was the final pushes for me to let go of religion during my college years.
Today I like to use self-hypnosis to actively direct desired changes in my self,
perhaps that's all the "power of prayer" and all that stuff actually
is.
Hopefully, with yours and so many others dedication, these
times will change for the better and we can discuss lighter things like Iranian
films. I stand fully with you, for you're right -- it is all of our
responsibility. For the grandmother, for the grandfather and the two hopeful
young women pictured in those three Iranian candlelight vigils posted on your
homepage and so many others. I understand that most of the work must be done
from within the Muslim and ex-Muslim community, but the rest of us will stand in
unity with you. It's truly remarkable what is happening in Iran today and I was
deeply moved and got shivers again reading your "Slaying Islam" piece,
Teacher. Yes Ali, I call you teacher.
Take care.
Mark
Jan 6. 2002
Hello Mr Sina,
I have a question for you,
I'm told that the black stone that is located in Mecca really a Lingam is,
and that the islamic forces weren't able to destroy it. Therefore they decided
to cover the Ka'aba with a black curtain.
Is this true? and if it is were can i read about it?
I've got another question for you.
I'm also told that 25th of December wasn't Jesus birthday but the birthday of
the homosexual god Saturn, Saturnalia. And that Jesus his real name Yoshua Ben
Yozef is. Constantine turned the name of Yoshua into Jesus Christ and he decided
that jesus was born on the 25th he also seperated god into
3. And is it true that the
church believed in Reincarnation untill the year 500???
Can you please tell we were i can find some anwsers? And were i can read
about it? What books???
Thanks for reading my mail! i hope you will find the time to anwser all my
questions
yours sincerely,
Shashi Roopram (from Holland
Black Stone and Ka'ba
The stone worshipping was predominant is ancient Middle
East. You can find traces of that even in Bible. In the story of Jacob we read
that he slept with his head resting on a stone and dreamed angels descending
from heaven. When he woke up “he took the stone that was under his head and
set it up as a memorial. Then he poured olive oil over it to dedicate it to God.
Gen: 28:18
Of course meteorites had particularly special significance.
They were stones sent from heaven. The reddish black stone in the corner of the
building Ka’ba was believed to be a meteorite. But its is now believed that it
could also be a lava or
basalt.
This story that you heard about indestructibility of the
black stone is nonsense. This stone is already creaked in three pieces and is
hold together by a silver bracing. The covering of Ka’ba is an Eastern
tradition. All holy places, like tombs of important religious figures are
covered by curtains. Ka’ba was covered by black curtain even before Islam.
The Origin of Christmas
As you may have heard in the news today (Jan 6th
) the Orthodox Christians celebrated the Christmas. Obviously even the Christians do not agree over the date of
the birth of Christ.
In the Luke 2:8 we read:
"And
there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch
over their flock by night."
December is the rainy season in Palestine and the
weather
is cold. The shepherds do not keep their flock in the fields during December but
by mid October they are kept in the fold.
The origin of this festivity is presumed to be Mithraic and
about 4000 years old. Mithra was the god of light in ancient Iran. The symbol of
Mithra is Sun. Iranians used this symbol in their flag for at least the last
2500 years. The
period of 17th to 24th of December was the duration of
this feast. The 21st of December, which is the solstice of winter, is
still celebrated in Iran It is called the night of “Yalda” as it represents the victory of
light over darkness, which symbolizes the triumph of good over evil. Mithraism was brought to Europe by Macedonian soldiers
after the defeat of the Persians by Alexander and by the forth century AD it was
the predominant religion of Europe and the main rival to Christianity. Prior to
the dominance of Christianity the Romans celebrated this festivity during the 25th of
Dec to 6th of January. Mithraism gained favor by the Emperor Commodus
and Julian and in 307 Diocletian built a temple on the Danube River dedicated to
Mithra. Mithraism spread throughout Europe from Rome to the province of Numidia
in North Africa up to England and Scotland.
But after the conversion of emperor Constantine in 313 A.D. Christianity was
spread throughout the empire and Mithraism, as St. Jerome reports, was
forcefully subdued especially in Rome and in Alexandria. In the forth century
Pope Leo destroyed the temple of Mithra (376 A.D.). Despite that the Mithraic
festivity of the birth of the Sun continued, as it was a convenient time to be
merry in the middle of the winter. Even today many celebrate the Christmas
although they are not Christians. It was not till the year 530 AD that the
church commissioned the Monk Dionysius Exiguus to proclaim this popular
festivity as the birth of Christ.
The New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge explains:
"How much the date of the festival depended upon the pagan Brumalia
(December 25th) following the Saturnalia (December 17th-24th), and celebrating
the shortest day of the year and the 'new sun'...cannot be accurately
determined. The pagan Saturnalia and Brumalia were too deeply entrenched in
popular custom to be set aside by Christian influence...The pagan festival with
it's riot and merrymaking was so popular that Christians were glad of an excuse
to continue its celebration with little change in spirit and in manner.
Christian preachers of the West and the Near East protested against the unseemly
frivolity with which Christ's birthday was celebrated, while Christians of
Mesopotamia accused their western brethren of idolatry and sun worship for
adopting as Christian this pagan festival"
St
Augustine says " we hold this (Christmas) day Holy, not like the pagans because of the Birth
of the Sun, but because of the birth of him who made it
(Christmas) day Holy, not
like the pagans because of the Birth of the Sun, but because of the birth of him
who made it"
This
clearly shows that the 25th of December was a festivity dedicated to
the Birth of the Sun that was adopted by the Christians.
Apart from
Christmas, Christianity absorbed many Mithraic myths and legends like baptism,
eucharists, 12 disciples, birth in a cave/stable, the presence of shepherds at
the birth and resurrection.
The midwinter was celebrated by many cultures. In Babylon it was dedicated to
Queen of Heaven, in Greece it was to Dionysos and Adonis, In Rome it was a to
Saturn, in England it was to the Nordic God Balder but it is the Persian
myth of the birth of the solar God Mithra that is most likely the origin of
Christmas.
Reincarnation in Christianity
In the year 553 A. D., the 2nd Council of Constantinople declared
reincarnation a heresy and the doctrine of reincarnation was officially banished
by the Christian Church. This shows that the doctrine of reincarnation must have
been infiltrated among the Christians otherwise such decree by the 2nd
Council would have not been needed.
Jan 6, 2002
Dear Mr Sina,
I
felt really impressed after reading your article. i'm a student in Malaysia. And
as you know Malaysia is an islamic country. Many of my friends have persuaded me
to be a muslim and they showed me many books about contradictions in Christianity.
But after i read your articles i
begin to realize the true image of islam. However, how can i persuade my islam
friends to understand the truth? Can you give me some ideas thank you...and may
God bless you...
Jason
Dear Jason,
Thank you for your kind letter. I
actually do not recommend you discussing about your findings with your friends.
Muslims often get irritated when you criticize their religion and they can even
resort to violence.
Instead I encourage you to start a
campaign through the Internet, go to chat rooms and different forums where Islam
and religion is discussed. There you can talk about Islam freely and without the
fear of becoming the target of Islamic violence. You may ask your friends to see
my site and answer to my challenge, but avoid arguing with them.
Take care,
Ali Sina
Dear Mr Sina,
Thank you very much for the reply. Yes ,you are right, i
should not discuss it with my friend. Because many have been detained under ISA
for being accused to criticize their religion. thank God that he make me realize
that islam is not true.... i was almost convinced that islam is the true religon,
because they seem very holy, practice prayer 5 times a day, fasted in Ramahdan....
in Malaysia, i think i 'm not able to i convince my friends to see your site
b'coz anti islam site is consider a propaganda of the Americans to destroy
Muslim countries. thanks again Mr Sina take care
Jason
Jan, 5, 2002
Dear Ali
Your web site is wonderful beyond imagination. I have been
writing to you a very long e-mail about my story, but in fact I could not wait
until I finish. I hope you take the time to read it. But please I want to stay
anonymous. You will not believe that I have suspicion that your web site might
be a trap for those who left Isalm to track them down and apply one of (hedoud
Allah) or Allah's punishments and kill them.
I came very close to converting to Islam, but the only
problem was Mohamed's nature. Being raised in an Arabic country, listening to
the Quran and Hadith in Arabic is a very different experience. Reading El-Tabri
describing the manners of the prophet makes any human with the least amount of
common sense decency, utterly sick. In the time the hypocrite media is trying to
convince us of the peaceful nature of Islam, you are putting the axe on one of
the humanity's worst nightmares. I really admire your courage. Only very few
would be gifted with a critical mind such as yours and go against the trends.
I now live in the West. Nevertheless, I had a Muslim friend
whom I cherish so mush. He came to the west as a refugee. When I told him about
the atrocities about the "sehaba" (Abu Bakr, Omar, etc... ), he said
this can not be true, even if they did that I would say
they are wrong, so I asked him politely, what if the
prophet Mohammed did that, he was in a shock and in a state of denial.
I asked him what do you think about the punishment of those
who leave Islam, he said very empathetically, that "there is no compulsion
in the religion" and every body is allowed to choose, so I confronted him
with the Hadith that says "Kill whoever converts back from Islam", he
said that this can not be true Hadith. Then I asked why did then Abu Bakr go on
a killing spree after Mohamed died, when many people who were forced into Islam
decided to convert back. He was confused, so he asked me to give him two days to
consult with the Imam of Mosque. Believe me you do not want
to know what happened after that. He came back after a couple of weeks telling
me that the youth of the Mosque started hating him because he argued one of the
basic tenets of Islam. This is happening here in the West, we do have people amongst
us who believe that killing those converts from Islam is a duty on every Muslim.
Killing a human for his conscience does not cause the least amount of pain to
them. It is a divine order, and the faithful would be so happy to carry it out.
I wonder if those "reverts" to Islam know about this punishment, which
any Muslim would be so happy to take Thawab for carrying it out. To everybody's
amazement, my Muslim friend now believes that it is JUST to kill those who leave
Islam.
I wish if you can let me take part in debates with Muslims.
I have deep understanding of Islam in Arabic, and the contexts of the verses. I
see Muslims way of thinking and I see that it is so frustrating to try to repeat
to them the same answers. One of the funniest things that I encountered while in
a dialogue with that Muslim friend was that when he came back from the Mosque.
Apparently, he tried to argue with them about the atrocities of Mohammad and his
followers. He came back to me saying so what about the witch hunt, the crusades.
While all Christians are ashamed of these things now, many Muslims live in the
Utopia of carrying the swords like Mohammed did and behave exactly like him. I
think Islam can NOT survive if what Mohamed and his Sehaba did has been
condemned by current day Muslims. I remember the most prominent Sheikh in my
country coming on TV and trying to defend why Mohammed marry all these women.
Listen to this, because it is coming from the most authoritative religious
figure in Egypt:
"Jesus married ten women, why are people so angry
about Mohammed being married to all these number of women". He was refereeing
to the symbolical story narrated by Jesus in the new testament. You see this is
the problem: you are trying to arue with people
whose system of values is so corrupt, and they conceive the
world utterly differently. They have swords upon their necks, no wonder they
believe.
I just have a question, regarding this point, I want to
know what number was Ayesha the 9 year old girl when Mohammed married her? Can
you give evidence on that? I mean was she the second third, ... etc.
I hope you give me a chance to debate with Muslims, I will
be writing to you refutation for their arguments, but please I insist on
remaining anonymous.
My only concern now is about your life and your web site
and the books you have. It is so rare to find someone treading that treacherous
path trying to elicit truth to Muslims. I know that whoever is hosting your web site
must be under enormous pressure to shut you down. That is the way Muslims feel
victorious.
F.A.
Jan, 3, 2002
I found some of the material on your site thought provoking
and as an
American had little knowledge of Islam prior to Sept. 11,
yet I still don't know what to believe. Both
the Jewish and Christian bibles are full of similar irrational or hateful tenets
so I admit that it is hard to become alarmed of such things in the Quran.
You do seem to have a personal knowledge of what you write
about, yet it may be helpful to acknowledge on your website the dangers of
religious fundamentalism in the west, especially its growth in the US.
In fact, President Bush often speaks like one of its adherents, which of
course is no surprise as his political base originates in the South, an area
steeped in religious obscurantism.
If the West is trending toward fundamentalist despotism at
the expense of its enlightenment heritage, is this not a greater threat to world
integration?
It also seems like many of the political regimes in the
mid-east exploit the foibles of Islamic thinking in order to maintain their
narrow and unpopular power base. People steeped in simple religious ideologies
are often easiest to manipulate and therefore the favoite of despotic
governments from Nazi Germany to present Iran, Saudi Arabia and maybe one day, a
Christian US?
Acknowledgement of these issues would make your
protestations against the Quran less antagonistic to readers of that faith and
have a wider "humanist" meaning.
BT
Yes you are absolutely right and I
agree 100%
Ali Sina
Hello Mr. Sina,
Your site is
extremely intriguing and informative. I am a Hindu by faith but would not
say I am religious. I believe that My Mom and Dad are my Goddess and God
as they lived their live by great virtues of humanity. I only believe thay
my religion (or Dharma) is my duty (or Karma) as preached in Gita (a practical
Hindu book - I won't say that it is a religious book).
My basic belief
was that no religion can ever preach violence but I was greatly surprised by
going through your site. This kind of gives you a clue why there is always
violence in regions dominated by followers of Islam. It seems that they
don't believe in peaceful co-existence. What surprises me that the number
of followers in Islam is still increasing around the globe. Not sure what
attracts people to this religion if it in essence is preaching so much of
violence. I would appreciate your comments in this area.
What I have
noticed that Muslims do not typically think that they belong to a country.
They owe allegiance to the religion. For example, many Muslims in India
would support Pakistan rather than India because Pakistan is an Islamic state.
Another noticeable thing is that the religious leaders of Islam like to keep
their people uneducated so that they can control them and eercise power in the
form of vote bank. Although the ratio of Muslim and Hindu population in
India is 3:20, the ratio of participants in academic institutions is likely
1:150. This is unfortunate as it is keeping the entire Muslim population
poor and resulting in them getting involved in prostitution, mafia-related
activites, smuggling and other crimes.
Frankly, I would
blame these religious leaders who are keeping their own people unenlightened for
their own benefit.
Again your site
is a revelation and may you be blessed with long life as we need lots of people
like yourself in this world to root out bigotry, fundamentalism, darkness and
hatred.
Thanks and I will
feel greatly honored to get a reply from you.
Deb
Dear Deb,
Thank you
for your kind and enlightening email. Of course the honor is mine to have
received your email. Unfortunately what you said about Islam and Muslims is
true. But Muslims are my people, I cannot remain silent when I see what Islam is
doing to them. I hope one day Muslims awaken from their slumber and embrace the
rest of humanity in amity and help to built a new civilization of human kind.
Please join our discussion board at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mukto-mona/
where you’ll find lots of people who are working hard to “root out bigotry,
fundamentalism, darkness and hatred.”
Best of wishes
Ali Sina
Jan, 3. 2002
Hi
Dr. Sina, something interesting happened on my job today. As I have always been
I like to share my knowledge with people and your website happens to be one of
them. I referred a colleague at work to your site and after a span of 30
minutes, he came back and of course I was expecting an intellectual discussion
instead his comment was uncomplimentary. He: Oh, he'scrazy, he being you and I
immediately snapped and questioned why and what made you a crazy, needless to
say that nothing was pointed that warranted that comment.
My multitude of questions to this person was unanswerable like, is he crazy
because he exposed the truth or by being courageous or being knowledgeable, is
there anything that he (you) wrote that was unsubstantiable? I tend to have
problem with people that follow blindly without questioning why and what makes
it a neccecity to follow. The light debate ended with his concession, which did
not surprise me a bit because in order to make a not so sublime comment like
that, one must be able to highlight those things that supports ones argument or
opinion and this you (Ali) do so well. You inadvertently won me over as a
crusader for your noble cause. A united human race.
Your safety is most important to those of us that see you as not only honest but
placid and may it be well for you. BTW, I enjoyed the debate you had with the
guy (Mr. Reza
Pahlavi) proposing
the return of the monarchy in Iran. Hope you won't accept any invitation
for a face to face meeting, I smell rat all over on that invitation you will
definitely be cancelled if you know what I mean! Do not reveal your identity
ever! He is also a sharp writer and with you two, I hope to improve my written
grammar.
Truthfully,
Nna
“You inadvertently won me over as a crusader for
your noble cause. A united human race.”
Dear Nna,
Thank you for your desire to
become a crusader for the unity of human race. This indeed is a noble cause, but
the good news is that you and I are not alone. There are many people who like us
indefatigably strive to eliminate the hate that divide the human race and
establish its glorious oneness.
I have the honor to work with
some of them. We have formed an organization that we would shortly open to
everyone to join. It is called Faith Freedom International and our goal is just
as you said, to crusade for the noble cause of unity of human race.
Why don’t you join our
discussion group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mukto-mona/
See you there and wish you the best.
Ali
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