Quran, No Hint of Peace in Islam
Editor’s Note: This is a worthy article written about eight years ago by a university professor who understood Islam too well
Moshe Sharon is an Arabic studies researcher. He is a professor of the
Oriental studies department of the Jewish University in Jerusalem
- When I asked my student, Armi Abu, who is in our chair, and by the
way, a nephew of Arafat: “What kind of peace do you want?”, he
promptly answered: “What kind of peace do you mean? What we mean is a
temporary cease-fire”. This is the logical misunderstanding of the
Oslo agreements and what these agreements mean at all. The Arab
terminology differs greatly from what Europeans mean, – the professor
goes on.
The Arab language has many nuances. To understand an Arab phrase one
has to understand the context and follow the intonation. Not
everything you hear should be accepted as real. Most of our Israeli
politicians are completely ignorant of understanding the outlook of
our enemies, especially Palestinians. If the country’s policy is based
on ignorance then it is worth nothing. This is the exact image of
Israeli policy towards Palestinians now.
With this shocking monologue by professor Moshe Sharon our
conversation began.
- Is it true that Muslims really want to rule the whole world? Isn’t
it a terrifying prospect?
- Unless we understand the culture of Muslims and how their outlook
differs from ours, this idea itself will seem incredible. But we have
to know – this is the basis of Islam. Both secular Arabs and Muslims,
who are fundamentalists, pursue the same purposes which have the same
roots called Islam.
The laws of Islam are built on two inviolable principles. They are
Koran and “precedents”. The word “precedents” means the life and
doings of Mohammed. Whatever Mohammed did is the rule for Muslims to
follow. He, according to Islam, was faultless. That is why all
generations follow the laws of Islam (sharia – in Arabic), which are
based on two sources. On the one hand, it is Koran, on the other hand,
it is Sunah, that is commentaries, which explain Koran’s directives.
The laws of Islam are the corner stones of civil, government and
criminal codes. They are also the corner stones of Arab outlook, laws
of Arab countries, as well as of laws on peace and war.
- Nevertheless, Israeli politicians think that Koran and Sunah are not
the today’s reality.
- This is a mistake. Moreover, it is the mistake that gave ungrounded
roots for the idea “to build a new Middle East…” We, Jews, are
discussing this idea between ourselves. Our idea of “a new Middle
East” is a fruit, say, product of our imagination. It is torn off from
reality and does not take into account the environment we live in.
Shimon Peres wrote the book called “New Middle East”, in which he
solely believes in his “message to descendants”. The book made a
different impression on the Arab World. Some see in it another proof
of Jew’s vicious intention to spread their ruling over the whole Arab
world. The reaction towards the book was not adequate. Some say that,
having heard about the book, President of Egypt Mubarak asked: “What
shall we do with the old Middle East? Why don’t Jews like it?” There
is some kind of jealousy in this question.
- Still, the Muslims are realists. They don’t try to seize what they
are not able to now.
- Nevertheless that does not mean that they shouldn’t fight. On the
contrary, Muslims should wage wars until Islam conquers the whole
world. Here I want to stress that Arabs do not intend to convert all
people into fanatic Muslims who are praying towards Mecca 5 times a
day. There is no missionary in Islam. Their aim is to put the whole
world under Islam and to recognize its superiority. They divide the
world into two parts – the “house of war” and the “house of Islam“.
The contemporary Muslim world is “the house of Islam”. They call the
part, which they try to conquer, “the house of war”.
Any territory, which in some historical period was under Muslims, is
considered a Muslim land forever. Therefore, creation of State of
Israel on the territory that once belonged to Muslims was a historic
revolution for them. Muslims cannot accept this fact in principle.
Nevertheless, they are still realistic politicians… They do not
hurry. They are waiting. Their actions depend on the situation, on the
difference of their military might and that of the enemy.
- Is there a slightest hope to conclude peace with Arabs?
- Not in the least. The long hand of Ishmael (ancestor of all Arabs)
knows no other state than that of permanent war. This is jihad, the
sacred war of Muslims against “infidels“. Jihad is a duty established
by Koran.
- Still, there are cases when jihad was stopped, say, by Egypt when we
concluded a peace treaty with it in Camp David.
- I regret to say but many people in Israel do not understand what
such treaties are worth of. Islam does not envisage in principle any
peace treaty with “infidels”. Real treaties are possible only between
Muslims. The principle of commanded war is always in force and waits
for the time and real chance to be realized.
Even Anvar Sadat who put his signature under the “peace treaty” knew
that he was signing only a temporary cease-fire agreement. But Sadat
made a sin and broke the commandment when he publicly announced,
“There will be no war any more. No bloodshed”, – and paid his life for
that.
- Tell me then what is the reason for Arabs to conclude temporary
cease-fire agreements?
- The situation in the world insistently demands contacts with
“infidels”. Under “infidels’” pressure Arabs have to take some
obligations. Europeans are expecting real peace. But the peace offered
to them by Arabs has a short life.
- How do we know that Muslims will, by all means, break the treaty,
which they have signed themselves?
- It is said in “the precedent” established by Mohammed.
In 628 he signed a treaty with the Kureisha tribe known as the
“khadivia treaty”. At that time Kureisha warriors were stronger than
his. The treaty was for 10 years. But not even two years passed and
Mohammed unleashed the war and seized Mecca. Kureisha people did
believe in the oath and mutual obligations and felt themselves secure.
However, the temporary cease-fire agreement had also additional
purpose, that is to lullaby the enemy’s vigilance.
When Mohammed struck and began to advance, the citizens of Mecca
crawled to him on their knees. They pleaded for negotiations to
resolve contradictions that made Mohammed to renew the war. But
Mohammed ordered his security not to let the delegation of respectable
people of Mecca come in. Mohammed spent two years of truce for
preparing for a new war because he knew that the war was inevitable.
He knew about it when he was singing the peace treaty. He violated the
treaty at the suitable for him moment. This is how the notion of gudna
(cease-fire between enemies) was established in Islam. Muslims never
sign armistice for a long and indefinite period of time. One of the
main rules for them is to set the validity period of such an
agreement. When Muslims feel that they are strong enough to resume the
war, they should cancel the armistice. If they feel not strong enough
to resume the war, they are allowed to automatically prolong the
validity period of the treaty for 10 years, and not necessarily to
negotiate with the opposite party about it.
- As I remember, Arafat spoke about the possibility of building a
secular Palestinian state.
- His words mean nothing. Immediately after singing the agreement in
Oslo he made a speech in the Johannesburg mosque (South Africa), in
which he outlined his political intentions. He said that he
understands peace as Islam means it. Then he resorted to the lessons
from Arab history. We have to know that when an Arab leader resorts to
history he means the present principles and situation because there is
no such notion as “ancient” in Islam. Islam is a culture of life, the
present way of life. Islam is the past that becomes the present and
shows the way to the future.
Arafat publicly said that in Oslo he meant a temporary cease-fire
(gudna). When he was saying this he knew he would be understood in the
right way. Unfortunately, few people paid a serious attention to these
words. They were addressed to those who knew “the course of events”.
My friends and I tried to persuade others that Arafat’s words were a
code and we had to understand the clandestine meaning of his speech.
However, Israeli leaders didn’t want to listen to our advice. Jews
were dreaming about peace at that time through the prophecy of
Yeshayagu: “and swords will be beaten into ploughshares”.
By the way, they’re some interesting facts about the treaty with
Egypt. After it had been signed, a festive party was organized and
President Carter made a public speech. In his speech he decided to use
quotations about peace from books of the three religions. It was not
difficult to find quotations on peace in Tanakha and he took those
that could sound Christian. However, the President’s advisers could
not find an appeal to peace in Koran. The thing is that there are no
peace appeals in Koran.
- So, does it mean that Arabs’ peace assurances are a thumping lie?
- There is an Arab proverb: “Words are tax free”. We have to learn to
negotiate from Palestinians. They follow the example of a Muslim
caliph Ali who negotiated with the rebelled ruler of Damascus when
each side was not able to gain victory…The caliph’s representative
suggested that the enemy should speak first. He wanted to know the
enemy’s plans before making his own decision. The enemy spoke first
and step-by-step disclosed everything he had in mind. The caliph’s
representative was listening attentively and assenting to him
occasionally. After the meeting was over, the Damascus representative
in his summarizing speech said that the caliph’s representative agreed
that Damascus should receive independence. His opponent stopped him
and said, “I have never agreed to this”.
This classic example should teach us not to make proposals. We have to
make the opponent disclose his position. When the opponent knows what
your interests are, their costs immediately go up. When Begin started
negotiating I told him, “Do not come out with proposals. Let them
speak out.” But even Begin was not ready to understand and accept
this. There were negotiations with Palestinians in 1996. Peres was
negotiating with Arafat. Peres was very pleased with the talks and
said after the meeting, ” They agree with all Israeli proposals. To
each proposal they were approvingly nodding their heads”. Exactly like
caliph Ali’s representative did…
- Tell me, do Arabs mean real war when they speak about jihad?
- Those who support Muslims try to represent this notion like it looks
in the West. They say it is a “struggle” for Muslims’ interests. It is
not true. This is a bloody war to the final victory until the enemy
surrenders to Islam.
Traditional Muslim books say that Islam will take over the world but
only after Muslims defeat and destroy Jews. These books also say that
Jews will hide themselves behind trees and rocks. But the time comes
and one “great day” the rocks and trees will start shouting: ” Hey,
Muslim, there is a Jew behind me! Come and kill him!” Only one tree
will keep silence. In Islamic it is called “el oseg” (the tree of
Jews). I mean the tree of sne (a bush from which God appeared before
Moshe). This tree is mentioned in Muslim books for Muslims not to
forget to look for Jews even behind this tree. These books are studied
in all Arab schools, and political leaders make quotations from them
in their speeches.
- What do we have to do then?
- Our task is to make Arabs disarm and sign a cease-fire treaty for a
long term.
- How can we achieve this if any treaty for Arabs is rather
conventional?
- There should be a reason for Islam to abandon the idea of war. The
reason can be our military supremacy over them.
For example, in 1229, Sultan El Melek El Kamal from Egypt handed
Jerusalem, which had been under Muslims since the rule of Saladin,
over to the Christian king Fredrik the Great, because the latter made
the whole world fear him…
Israel’s policy is weak and, thus, leaves no choice for Palestinians.
Under this condition they simply must fight with us. Until now they
have no military might to oppose Israel, that’s why they try to weaken
the Jewish state.
If we become much stronger than them, they will have to postpone jihad
again and again. They should feel our might; they should feel they
can’t defeat us. Only then they will disarm even if the terms are not
favourable for them.
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what a ridiculous article by a ridiculous person. The Creator of us has chosen the way of life for us and u r fighting with your Creator. What an idiot!
rr1210: Ahh, that's the whole problem stated right there.
Once you assume that "god" has laid out your path for life, all thinking (bar the most mundane) stops.
It no longer matters how irrational, bigotted, intolerant, violent, cruel, mysogynistic, backward-looking, (I could add more) a person is, thats OK because it is "god's" will.
Even better that person are not to blame – it's "god's" will.
Should they (personally) find that murdering innocents jabs their conscience, they can assuage it – it's "god's" will.
If they start to wonder whether anything they've been told is wrong; they stop thinking that immediately – it's "god's" will.
rr1210 says:what a ridiculous article by a ridiculous person. The Creator of us has chosen the way of life for us and u r fighting with your Creator. What an idiot!"
Please tell us what Allah (lord of the devils & what they lead astray) created besides terror,so that we can all submit.
For opponents to agree on anything at all, both must use the same word meanings that are mutually understood and accepted by both sides. This is not possible with Islam.
When Islam speaks of “Peace”; it actually means when life (all of humanity) is only for Islam and Allah. This does not necessarily mean that all must be Muslim, just that those not Muslim must show submission and obedience to Islam, Allah and the law as expressed by Muhammad, through Shariah, Allah and the Quran.
When the others not Muslims speak of “Peace”, we mean so in the conventional definition as the cessation of hostilities, tranquil and an absence of War. This is to be generally understood as “live and let live”.
It is amazing that deluded pious religious adherents can say they know the unseen and unknowable. And even what this supposed Creator of all wants for humanity so emphatically. No demonstrable or verifiable evidence for its (Gods) actual existence is forthcoming or ever will be forthcoming at all. Suppositions that are mandatory require proofs unassailable and not just mere beliefs, sincere though these beliefs may be.
Threats and violence by these supposed Creators or its deluded adherents are not proof of the actual existence of any God whomsoever they may be! Muhammad the prophet of filth and debauchery had no verifiable proof of The God and nor does anyone else.
Treaties with Islam will only exist as long as Muslims are weak. There is no Peace in Islam or in the deluded ramblings of Allah’s fragmentary scavenged Quran. As there can be no true “Peace” with Islam, Islam must be removed or rather its centers of influence and propaganda must be obliterated.
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rr1210 if you believe they're fighting against the creator then you're seriously mistaken. Last time I checked the creator fights his own wars, he doesn't use little desert men with delusions of grandeur to do his dirty work for him. I'll give the judaic and christian god credit. He does his own work by using his own acts of power to punish people, not people to punish people. Natural (or supernatural) disastors are usually the work of the creator, not "Achmed shoots the infidel because he THINKS he is doing what the creator desires of him"
Satan destroys man, Islam has a goal to destroy man that is not considered muslim. The creator "creates" life, the evil one thrives and revels in the death and destruction of mankind. Worshipping martyrdom and death is not of the creator… so I'm pretty sure you know the predicament with Islam which thrives on death and destruction under the guise of "submission".
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As the author is a jew, I would like to notify her of some of the most peaceful comments from her religious book, Tora. I don't think she will publish this comments though.
"Only the Jews are humans, the Non-Jews are not humans, but cattle" (goyim = human cattle) [1]
- Kerithuth 6b page 78, Jebhammoth 61a
"The Non-Jews have been created to serve the Jews as slaves" [2]
- Midrasch Talpioth 225
"The Non-Jews have to be avoided, even more than sick pigs"
- Orach Chaiim 57, 6a
"Sexual intercourse with Non-Jews is like sexual intercourse with animals"
- Kethuboth 3b
"The birth-rate of the Non-Jews has to be suppressed massively" [3]
- Zohar II, 4b
"As you replace lost cows and donkeys, so you shall replace dead Non-Jews" [4]
- Iore Dea 337,1
"To box an Israeli on the ear, is like to box on the ear of God"
- Sanhedrin 58b
"God (Jahveh) is never angry about the Jews, just about the Non-Jews"
- Talmud IV / 8 / 4a
"The human (the Jew) has to pray every day three times, because Jahveh didn't make him a goyim, not a female and not an ignorant"
- Talmud V / 2 / 43b + 44a
"Towards a Non-Jew the Jew doesn't cause an adultery… Punishable for the Jew is just the adultery towards his next, that means the wife of a Jew. The wife of the Non-Jew is excluded"
- Talmud IV / 4 / 52b
"There is no wife for the goyim, they really aren't their wives"
- Talmud IV / 4 / 81 + 82ab
"You (the Jews) have made me, Jahveh, the only true lord in the world, so I will make you the only ruler in the world"
"Who wants to be smart shall occupy himself with money matters, because there are no corner pillars in the Thora that are more important, because they are like a sparkling fountain"
- Talmud IV / 3 / 173b
"Jews always have to try to deceive Non-Jews" [5]
- Zohar I, 168a
"Non-Jewish property belongs to the Jew who uses it first"
- Babba Bathra 54b
"If two Jews have deceived a Non-Jew, they have to split the profit"
- Choschen Ham 183,7
"Every Jew is allowed to use lies and perjury to bring a Non-Jew to ruin"
- Babba Kama 113a
"The possessions of the goyim are like an ownerless desert, and everybody (every Jew) who seizes it, has acquired it"
- Talmud IV / 3 / 54b
"The Jew is allowed to exploit the mistake of a Non-Jew and to deceive him"
- Talmud IV / 1 / 113b
"The Jew is allowed to practice usury on the Non-Jew" [6]
- Talmud IV / 2 / 70b
"When the Messiah comes, all will be slaves of the Jews"
- Erubin 43b
"Whoever disobeys a Rabbi deserves death… Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell."
- Erubin 21b
"If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there"
- Moed Kattan 17a
"Non-Jews are Not Human. Only Jews are human ("Only ye are designated men")
- Baba Mezia 114a-114b
"Jews are Divine. If a heathen (Gentile) hits a Jew, the Gentile must be killed. Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God"
- Sanhedrin 58b
O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews. A Jew need not pay a Gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work
- Sanhedrin 57a
"If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite…the payment is to be in full."
- Baba Kamma 37b
Jews May Steal from Non-Jews – Baba Mezia 24a
If a Jew finds an object lost by a Gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned
- (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b)
God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean…"
- Sanhedrin 76a
That is indeed an impressive list of religious Jewish malfeasance and absurdities. It does not and can not save or indicate the peacefulness of the violent words of one of the supposed “Creators of the Universe”. However, how does such vindicate the scavenged, fragmentary and partially plagiarized words of the pagan Quran!
One does not validate one’s own religion by showing that one’s opponent or another religion also contains absurdities and vile dictates to unreason also. Both are unworthy of humanity. What is most important is if that religion’s adherents attempt to carry such ridiculous supposedly godly dictates into force of laws, practice and application.
Unfortunately, the pagan religion of Islam is the topic and Islam’s ravaging of humanity in a deluded and misguided attempt to acquire all for the sake of the unseen and unknowable imaginary pagan Arab supposedly High God called Allah.
When one attempts to cite the more peaceful or somewhat non vile verses of the Quran, on further reading the most peaceful verses appear to be abrogated or contradicted by more pressing verses of the self same Quran.
Perhaps some one can list or at least hint at the peaceful Quran verses that are not over ridden by the more belligerent or contradictory verses of the same.
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Rishab,
A very interesting list from a Jew hater, a Muslim I assume? What else could it be? I see many contradictions in theory and practice by present day Jews. Take Kerithuth 6b page 78, Jebhammoth 61a for an example, anyone knows what will happen to Israel and the rest of Jews if this “teaching” has been practiced? In reality this is a goner. Want more examples? How about Stoning? Do they do that? Muslims do. Ah, Israel uses Democracy, is that compatible with Judaism?
Another example which contradicts history is Kethuboth 3b. Many Jews had done inter faith marriages and cultural mixes through out history. Why would they do that to animals or non humans (Baba Mezia 114a-114b)? Did they have no shame? Did they love to insult themselves?
Talmud IV / 8 / 4a contradict Five Books of Moses which has many verses showing God’s anger and regret on Israelites. Why did you mention only rabbinical works like this?
I assume you mentioned this list to ease your guilt on Quran? I suggest to you to do these 4 points to make the readers more convinced:
1. List of absurdity.
2. Taken from (believed to be) God’s words, not man’s doing so that your list appears to be more religious, not just like racist nationalist. We have plenty of examples for that.
3. Real example, present day will be more convincing.
4. Give a clear and strong reason on how this list can negates Islam and Quran.
Understand? You better do. This list is one of the foundations of Islam anyway. Many Jews at the time of Muhammad gave him this view.
Pagan Arab + Judaism + Rabbi’s tradition + Christianity = Islam.
any1 can write a piece of bullshit n say its from da quran stop believein all dis islam is a true religion its not hard 2 believe dat a jew rote did article its obvious dat it gona be a hole load of bullshit wake up people go 2 any islamic shop buy a translation of da quran read it and u wil find out dat der is nuthin bad innit it is so pure so derz no point belivin wat people jst ryt in an article wil u believe da jew if it say if u jump from the mount everest u wnt die u wnt innit so dnt believe in dis bullshit either!!
To all and any true Ghilman-trained paedophile Believer:
Enlighten me in this particular matter,all black-stone-bowers: what is the status quo of Allah the Moon God ’s gender ? As I can see, all black-stone-worshippers lift their asses 5 times a day in order to Allah the Moon God and his Horny Pervert get a way to the true believers.Fine.Then, in order toget an upgrade and collect alms, an ordinary Joe true believers goes to Mecca, in order to get inside the house which guards the Cxnt-shaped black stone of Allah; i.e., he becomes a black-stone-licker. So, this guy becomes a Hajj, or a black-stone-cxxxunt-shaped licker. He can even say out aloud: I am a Hajj, i have licked Allah’s cxxxnt stone,and I gave him pleasure.
Therefore, I ask the believers: is Allah, a male, a female, or a drag-queen.So far, i guess Allah is a drag-queen,as it impalesthe true believers 5 times a day plus has a cxxxunt stone to be licked.
I seek your guidance, black-stone bowers….
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