Islam DID NOT Abolish Slavery. In Fact, Mohammad Was a Slave Owner
2/7/2012
This is a sensitive subject for Muslims because many of them really believe that Islam abolished slavery. That’s what I thought when I was a Muslim, because that is what we were told in school. The sad truth is that Islam absolutely condoned slavery and Mohammad was actually a slave owner and a slave trader. There are many verses from the Quran and the Hadith (Mohammad’s Teachings) that are dedicated to telling people how to deal with the slaves. This includes the many women that were captured by the Muslims at war and used as sex slaves, or as they would call them… “those whom your right hands possess”.
There might have been a couple times where Muslims were told to treat their slaves nicely, or promised a great reward in heaven if they choose to free a slave. But there is NOT A SINGLE VERSE in the Quran or Hadith that abolishes slavery! In fact, the only times that Muslims were required to free ONE slave (with no payment) is as a punishment for a sin they have committed! That is NOT abolishing slavery! That is saying that if you are good, you can keep your slaves. A slave might be allowed to BUY his freedom only if his master agrees to some kind of payment. That should be a crime! You should not have to BUY your freedom.
I always knew that slavery was condoned in the bible, but I never for a second thought that Islam allowed it until I did my own research. You know why? Because they are not going to teach you that in schools. They are not going to admit that the Quran and Hadith are flawed. That would be a real embarrassment for Muslims.
Slavery in the Quran and Hadith
I read many verses in the Quran and the Hadith that discussed slavery, and this is just a summary of what I have learned:
A slave and his master are NOT equal
Allah sets forth the Parable (of two men: one) a slave under the dominion of another; He has no power of any sort; and (the other) a man on whom We have bestowed goodly favours from Ourselves, and he spends thereof (freely), privately and publicly: are the two equal? (By no means;) praise be to Allah. But most of them understand not. (Quran 16:75) (See also Quran 2:178)
Slaves were definitely property and they can be used to pay off debt.
Narrated Jabir: A man manumitted (freed) a slave and he had no other property than that, so the Prophet cancelled the manumission (and sold the slave for him). No’aim bin Al-Nahham bought the slave from him.
(Sahih Bukhari Volume 3, Book 41, Number 598)
Men are allowed to use women as sex slaves if they were prisoners of war
O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee (Quran 33:50) (See also Quran 23:5-6, 70:29-30, 4:24, 8:69) (See also Sahih Bukhari 62:137, 34:432)
Mohammad was a slave trader and owner
Jabir (Allah be pleased with him) reported: There came a slave and pledged allegiance to Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) on migration; he (the Holy Prophet) did not know that he was a slave. Then there came his master and demanded him back, whereupon Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: Sell him to me. And he bought him for two black slaves, and he did not afterwards take allegiance from anyone until he had asked him whether he was a slave (or a free man)
(Sahih Muslim 10:3901)
Narrated Jabir bin ‘Abdullah: A man amongst us declared that his slave would be freed after his death. The Prophet called for that slave and sold him. The slave died the same year.
(Sahih Bukhari 3:46:711) (See also Sahih Bukhari 34:351, 72:734, and Sahih Muslim 4112)
In fact, Mohammad said that it is better to give away a slave to a relative, rather than to free one
Narrated Kurib: the freed slave of Ibn ‘Abbas, that Maimuna bint Al-Harith told him that she manumitted (freed) a slave-girl without taking the permission of the Prophet. On the day when it was her turn to be with the Prophet, she said, “Do you know, O Allah’s Apostle, that I have manumitted my slave-girl?” He said, “Have you really?” She replied in the affirmative. He said, “You would have got more reward if you had given her (i.e. the slave-girl) to one of your maternal uncles.”
(Sahih Bukhari 3:47:765)
Slaves are not allowed to marry anyone without the permission of their master
“Ibn Umar reported the prophet as saying: “If a slave marries without the permission of his master, his marriage is null and void.”
(Abu Dawud, Vol. 2, Ch. 597, No. 2074)
It is OK to beat your slave
Narrated ‘Abdullah bin Zam’a: The Prophet said, “None of you should flog his wife as he flogs a slave and then have sexual intercourse with her in the last part of the day.”
(Sahih Bukhari 7:62:132) (See also Abu Dawud 1814)
You are allowed to rape female prisoners of war even if they are married (because their captivity is equivalent to divorce).
Sa’id al-Khudri reported that at the Battle of Hunain Allah’s Messenger sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah’s Messenger seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that:” And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (Quran 4:. 24)” (i. e. they were lawful for them when their ‘Idda period came to an end).
(Sahih Muslim 8:3432)
“And all married women (are forbidden unto you) except those (captives) whom your right hands possess (because their captivity is equivalent to divorce).” (Qur’an 4:24)
These are only a SOME of the verses in the Quran and Hadith about slavery. It’s just really sad and SICK! I can’t believe Muslims even try to come up with excuses and reasons why slavery was allowed. They come up with whatever they can to defend Islam. One of the excuses that I heard was that “times were different” back then and it was the norm during Mohammad’s time…. but isn’t Islam supposed to work for all generations? If there was something that violated human rights, “god” should have forbidden it, right? Another excuse I heard was that god could not just abolish slavery right away because it was a common practice. It had to be gradual… Just like drinking. If “god” just banned it, no one would want to convert to Islam. The difference is, drinking alcohol was eventually forbidden but slavery was never abolished!!
So what does Islam Teach Us?
Islam seems to forbid many little harmless things but ignores the bigger issues. Let’s see now…
You are NOT allowed to:
- Drink
- Eat pork
- Gamble
- Play or listen to music
- Eat with your left hand
- Travel on your own (women)
- Wear silk (men)
- Uncover your hair (women)
- Have premarital sex
- Marry a non muslim (women)
- Have a homosexual relationship
- Criticize Islam, God, or Mohammad (Blasphemy)
- Leave Islam
But you ARE allowed to:
- Own a slave
- Have 4 wives and sex slaves (for men)
- Beat your wife
- Kill an Apostate
- Marry a child
- Have temporary marriages
- Rape captive women
What kind of nonsense is this? It seems to me like “god” really got it backwards! You cannot enjoy life or think for yourself, but you can take away the basic human rights of someone. That is one sick god!!
You know…. Even if a god existed, and he allowed things like this to happen, I would never want to worship him anyway…
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Muhammad also owned black slave yet loads of ignorant black people have converted to Islam.
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 91, Number 368:
Narrated 'Umar:
I came and behold, Allah's Apostle was staying on a Mashroba (attic room) and a BLACK slave of Allah's Apostle was at the top if its stairs. I said to him, "(Tell the Prophet) that here is 'Umar bin Al-Khattab (asking for permission to enter)." Then he admitted me. …
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 73, Number 182:
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
Allah's Apostle was on a journey and he had a BLACK slave called Anjasha, and he was driving the camels (very fast, and there were women riding on those camels). Allah's Apostle said, "Waihaka (May Allah be merciful to you), O Anjasha! Drive slowly (the camels) with the glass vessels (women)!"
Bukhari Volume 3, Book 43, Number 648:
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Abbas:
"So I went to the upper room where the Prophet was and requested to a BLACK slave of his…"
What do mean by this my Bro Omar ??? Could pls clear what u want to claim
What i'm trying to say is that Muhammad didnt have a very a high opinion of black people, he kept them as slaves and even called them 'raisen heads':
Bukhari Volume 1, Book 11, Number 664:
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
The Prophet said to Abu-Dhar, "Listen and obey (your chief) even if he is an Ethiopian with a head like a raisin."
Why would god choose a racist as his prohet? If Afro Americans such as Malcolm X and Muhammad Ali knew about this then they would have never have converted to Islam.
ISLAM is a racist religion and without doubt. Profiteer profit always talked about whiteness and hoors in janna pearl white with swollen breasts !! Look at pakisatan or sodi arabia . Is it possible that a sodi women is allowed to marry a black or a nonmoslem from non arab country ? No.
The difference is that the Chinese didn't claim to be the prophets of God.
Muslims are told that Muhammad was the most perfect man of all time and people should follow his actions and live their lifes like he did.
One Muslim argued that George Washington had slaves and I responded; "George Washington never claimed to the last prophet of God"
…and George Washington never claimed to be perfect.
Irishjenna, you are off the mark. What China operates is an economy based on cheap labor, not slavery. Nobody owns or has the right to sale, flog, have un consensual sex with anybody in China.
On the other hand, if Muslims will have their way, they will attempt to revive the practice of slavery.
Chinese slavery is no less immoral than islamic slavery. I call a duck for wot it is a duck and not a chicken
there is no Chinese slavery.
Muhammed leaves on in the reality of the Koran, ahadeeth, sira and the multitude of his worshipers. Muhammad is not dead, the effort to kill and bury him is only starting.
This is in relation to Irishjenna’s comment below on muhammed being dead and gone.
Actually slavery in the Muslim world still exists today in some Muslim countries;
[youtube X6RHa6nRWXQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6RHa6nRWXQ youtube]
and;
[youtube EeF137E6VJE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeF137E6VJE youtube]
So it is not like slavery has been curtailed in Islamic countries. It was the West that has tried to stamp out slavery in the latest years…not Islam.
oops that last video should be this one;
[youtube EeF137E6VJE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeF137E6VJE youtube]
Treat them right! Volume 1, Book 2, Number 29: Narrated Al-Ma'rur:At Ar-Rabadha I met Abu Dhar who was wearing a cloak, and his slave, too, was wearing a similar one. I asked about the reason for it. He replied, "I abused a person by calling his mother with bad names." The Prophet said to me, 'O Abu Dhar! Did you abus…e him by calling his mother with bad names, You still have some characteristics of ignorance. Your slaves are your brothers and Allah has put them under your command. So whoever has a brother under his command should feed him of what he eats and dress him of what he wears Do not ask them (slaves) to do things beyond their capacity (power) and if you do so, then help them.' "
At the end of the day slavery has not been abolished and it is not consistent with today's times Verse 4.24 is not consistent with todays time..Which means husband believe they can sleep with their maids. Maids were complaining about muslim men wanting to sleep with them and approaching them when the wife is not around. No women would want her husband to sleep with someone else. You don't know what disease the other woman, maid or slave is carrying.
as opposed to having illicit affairs or one night stands. marriage to more than one woman is only for people who can be just amongst their wives. and thats y the majority of people only tend to have one wife. it isnt the norm to marry 4. rather it is an exception and only if society needs it. basically if theyre are more surplus women in the vicinity who wish to get married. second marriage gives the woman all her rights as the previous one. and if a man cant do justice then he shouldnt marry. instead the women should find someone more suitable for her in any other area as long as he is muslim. i agree with u that culture has taken precedent over religion in todays day and age. and i dont even mean pakistan or indian culture. im talkin about arabic culture. because remember just because theyre arabs doesnt mean theyre muslim.
You mean to say that you are not following moslem culture ? Eventhough Moslems are living with ISLAMIC rules and culture for 1400 yrs , still they do not follow ISLAMIC culture !!! But any way Moslem culture is barbarism. Nobody wants to follow MOSLEM/ISLAMIC culture. That is the reason why moslems would like to live nonmoslem , kafir,infidel lands ,. eventhough, there are numerous countries with ISLAMIC culture and rules. Even the JIHADISTS hate to live in a pure moslem country like SODI ARABIA and PAKISATAN or AFGHANISTAN. !!!! According to you ISLAM could not bring any change for good in 1400 yrs . We wre telling the same thing. Becoz ISLAM/Moslem culture is evil and cruel,inhuman,primitive. Do you like HAREMS where moslem ruleres like Rashid haroon and shajahan, akbar, jahangir and sultans have many thousands of concubines in their harem ?
there is no islamic country because there is no caliphate. ur mistaken if u think saudi is a muslim country. theyre american controlled. there is no caliphate there. they are run on on a ruling family. u seem to be massively mistaken as to wat u think a muslim country is. as far as im aware nearly every country in the world is a secular state. they have done this purposefully as to ensure the muslim masses are easily divided and split into deviating groups who commit acts which are completely un islamic yet say they are from islam.
"there is no islamic country"
There is however a 23 nation OIC.
But none of those is "truly islamic."
OK. 1.4 billion of you and they have all got it wrong. No true islam.
Maybe you and shablear should buy an island and create the world's only true islamic state.
Why can't you just admit that slavery is wrong and should never have been allowed?
why dont you live like that as outlined in video, be a slave and try to get freed by some moslem !!!
obviously you have a moslem mind , with extreme cruelty, evil , bigotted,hate filled, . why do you want to live like amoslem? The video is proof and evidence. Still you believe in ISLAM !!!! why do you want to live with evil, wicked and cruelty and discrimination ? it is your choice .
Some Muslims claim there is slavery in the West, but that is an UNDERGROUND illegal type of business. In Islam slavery is right out in the open and sometimes even sanctioned by their own Islamic governments.
They are also based on tribe or race; usually an Arab is the master and either a black or someone of another race is the slave in some Islamic countries.
QQUURRAAN is the mecca of suicide bombers /.hate mongers/ bigotry of ISLAM/ slavery of ISLAM.
irishjenn47 You don'tnow what you are writing or talking. Perhaps you are drunk or yourself a slave owner back ground.
The originator and perpetrator of slavery in the world was/is ISLAM – no doubt in this. Slavery has along history.
Slavery has many consequences coming from long time back . Slavery is horrendous crime . ISLAMIC ALLA and his profiteer profit were/are criminals.
ISLAM has no spiritual value – none whatsoever. ISLAM is most primitive , evil,cruel,fascist,totalitarian, intolerant cult and slavery forced on Moslems and now terrorizing humanity and free,freedom,peace loving nonviolent world !!!
I recently read the book Uncle Tom's Cabin and Geoffrey Moorhouse's classic 'Culcutta'
that's interesting, I'm reading "Solaris" right now.
Sorry, but nowhere does Jesus accept or condone Slavery.. There maybe references in the old testament but that is the old testament.. ATTENTION Jesus was crucified for criticising the old testament.
No person can call themself a Christian and have a slave. You would be breaking the 2 greatest commandment as Jesus has taught us. ie Love your Neighbour as Jesus has taught us.
joe @ currepted
Slavery, in one form or the other was prevalent in almost all parts of the world. The Old Testament of the Bible, which describes the ancient tales of Israeli society, is replete with many accounts concerning slavery. It can be seen that the tradition of selling people existed during the time of the patriarch prophet, Abraham, itself. (Genesis 17:13,14). It is the commandment of the Bible that prisoners-of-war are to be enslaved (Deuteronomy 20:10,11). The Bible, which permits the torture of the slave by the master, nevertheless, stresses the point that the slave is not to be killed during the course of torturing. The law which prevailed, in this matter, amongst the Israeli society was that, “If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.’’ (Exodus 21:20,21)
The instituion of slavery was prevalent both during, and after, the time of Jesus Christ. There has been nothing from among the sayings of Jesus, which serve to show the treatment that was to be meted out to the slaves. If, the statements: “Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favour when their eyes is on you, but like slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not men, because you know that the Lord will reward everyone for whatever good be does, whether he is slave or free. And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favouritism
with him.” (Ephesians 6:5-9) and “Slaves, obey your earthly mastersin everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to win their favour, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.” (Colossians 3:22) are excepted , there is nothing in the letters of Paul which deal with slavery. It can be seen that the cruel system of slavery that prevailed in the Graeco-Roman tradition continued to exist without any change, whatsoever, even after its Christianization. It is of greater pertinence to note that the official religion of the Roman civilization which boasted of its own tales of a cruel, and barbaros form of slavery, was Christianity.
it says slaves obey your madtets shablear, it doesn't say masters, take slaves.
Very good article. Becomes very difficult for me to share the articles of this website with friends and family as they will ask me how I can read articles that is defaming the prophet. It could mean that I am endorsing what is on this site. Please advice. And if the articles are maybe presented in a more subtle way, I think it would be much easier to spread the word.
can't u reach muslims through online chatting ???
fatima are u financially independent ??
I don't really have time to do online chatting and why is it important whether I am financially independent. I've only started chatting on this site.
i am asking about ur financial situation only because if you are dependent on your parents then they can simply prohibit u from visiting this site or going out.u simply can't discuss islam freely with them..
may be u can encourage ur friends and parents to read quran and hadiths in their mother tounge.after they are done reading u can raise those disturbing quotes from quran and hadiths and discuss them..
Hi lala, in that way I am financially independent. I know not many people are really keen to read the Quran and Hadith in their mother tongue becos of time constraints. Many muslims just choose the easy route, we were taught this and just accept and not question it. The only way that something can stir them is by having live chat shows on tv by non -mulsims.
oh may be u can do some translations of the articles here in ur mother tounge.. are u married ???
Yes I am married and I've told my husband about the contents of this web and is quite open minded to differtent things. Generally here people are english speaking and do have access to the Quran with the English Translation and Transliteration.The problen is that many people don't know how to handle controversial matters.Once I queried something regarding the Quran. He closed me by saying that I must never doubt the QurAN. He said that man can err with misunderstanding the translations but the Quran can never. I just left it becos he did not seem interested to continue.
may be u and ur husband can leave islam with ur children.atleast u can prevent ur children from being brainwashed.about guys who are not interested in translations u can ask how can they be not interested in the "last message of god" and blah blah… this should force them to try to understand quran .
I still feel that I haven't got enough knowledge yet, I am still doing my own research. I believe you have to be pscycological, emotional, mentally strong. It must be difficult for those who are living a double life living in a society not knowing that they are apostates. My extended family is quite big, which would mean forsaking all of them.Alot of thinking regarding ur children upbringing need to take place.It ibecomes easy when you don't have children and your family circle is not that big.
you are bold. You should have good knowledge and understanding about QQUURRAAN, SIRA and HADITHS. and also about ISLAMIC history and ISLAMIC societies , in ISLAMIC countries like SODI ARABIA , afghanistan,pakisatan, sudan, somalia etc. Nonmoslems cannot talk openly about and against ISLAM, how unpleasant it may be. First , liberal,progressive,free,freedom ,peace loving countries ,open democracies like INDIA,USA, UK, canada,AUSTRALIA , Europe – people do not want to be seen as intolerant , even if it is true and fact but goes against moslems – becoz ,they know moslems will riot,burn properties and destroy things. So, the nonmoslems wants to keep quite . And also the Governments there in those countries do not want to antagonize moslems,becoz they want their votes . The govt s themselves are not willing to stand by truth and facts. Best example is INDIAN govt..
yes liberal free freedom peace loving, cuntrys ha ha ha
India full of corruption, USA UK etc are world most wanted terrorists k, truth cannot be
changed by your false quotes above mentioned.
(The only way that something can stir them is by having live chat shows on tv by non -mulsims.) Brilliant idea Fatima, but BBC are not even allowed to show Abu Qatda the terrorist as 'fat' and citicise Islam.
What bugs me is:
Egypt was Coptic Christians, Islam killed some (still doing so) converted the rest. Once the whole of Egypt converts to Islam who will the Muslims pick on next? but themselves! – as they are doing now. Secondly, Muslims are going to 'Christian Countries' begging for 1/2 a slice of bread to eat and once stomach full, wants Sharia, once the West becomes Muslims, where will they go next begging for 1/2 a slice of bread to eat?
The whole Medeterranian Rim, from Turkey to Morocco, was a prosperous Christian civilization in the Roman style. Now look at it. It's unbearable.
@fatima
i am an muslim. u can chat with me about islam either in this site or anything else. as a muslim brother i request u to not believe this website contents. anyone can turn truth into false by their orating skill. it does not mean that their claim is true. i request u to read quran in ur mother tounge and realize it. dont blindly believe anyone
@fatima you can see the videos showing slavery in Islam…and it is sanctioned in Islam…or there would be no videos on slavery in the Muslim world.
You are not only living in darkness of ISLAM, but you want pull others into that hell hole of darkness, cruelty, lies, and demonis,savgery? why ? People are intelligent, can find the truth, facts by themselves.
Education of moslimahs and internet, communication revolution will spell death to ISLAM !!! surely . no doubt in this. So far ISLAM/ Moslems were /are terrorising nonbelievers, apostates by keeping all the information about ISLAM as secret, in darkness.
"anyone can turn truth into false by their orating skill. it does not mean that their claim is true"
Precisely, brother.
Truth is a bitter pill
.
May be you can ask them to refute the claims here and while being on their side. The objective is not 'just' to vilify, shame, and/or humiliate them. Those are the steps in between. The ultimate idea is to get them out of Islam and into humanity. Its no doubt your parents and family members are simple, loving and nurturing humans. Its just that they use Islam for major decisions in their life and that brings misery to all and sundry.
yes, tell them there's this atrocious statement against Islam and what should you say back. But BE cAREFUL. We don't want to lose you.
if the articles are maybe presented in a more subtle way, I think it would be much easier to spread the word. sry fatima this is the only way islam can be explained it is just to evil to sugar coat.
Sorry Latri I cannot risk my life if there is no other way. People in our community become suspiscious very easily. It has to happen gradually.
Yes you are correct . But you must know that you are truthful,knowledgeable ,honest and your family members are ignorant ,living with dark truths , out of humanity and human values . Your situation needs all of your skills in handling them, and bringing the needed change . It will take long time . You must be firm in your facts, and knowing that you want to lead your family members on right path in life – make them decent human beings and feel real good at the end . Ultimately when you lead your husband and children, your parents, out of ISLAM- you are assured utmost happiness in this life . Take care . You are aware of the dangers from your community , if they come to know of your activities.
Maybe stay silent in your community and go on the net anonymously instead. You could pose questions to Muslims on line and stay safe.
Just watched a Bollywood movie called Agneepath, currrently playing at cinemas. In the movie they show muslim thugs selling/ auctioneering underage hindu girls to other muslim men dressed in Arab Clothes. India is a Dhimmi country and am surprised that they showed those seens. Maybe Alisina should encourage other film makers to add similar scenes in movies to create awareness.
You have a point.
There you wrong, I think you talking about the movies of the 50's. Aishwarya Rai Bachan former miss world is a bollywood actor and all of them are just as beautiful. People all around the world adore Bollywood actor Sharukh kHan and Hollywood have already approached him for a movie. Non Indians at my work have these Indian Actors on their screen savers, so I think that they are really influential. Their bodies are, men would die for.
Ha Ha Ha! Great irish joke.LOL
I agree. lol
What were the practical steps which the Qur’an adopted for the
eradication of slavery ?
It may be seen that the Qur’an had adopted five steps for the
eradication of slavery.
1. Created a sense of brotherhood.
The Qur’an had, firstly, created a notion that both master and
slave were brothers, one to the other, by inculcating an awareness
that all men are the creations of the same God and were the children
of the same parents. “O mankind! We created you from a single (pair)
of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye
may know each other (not that ye may despise each other). Verily the
most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most
righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted
(with all things).” (Qur’an 49:13)
Here, the Qur’an has decimated the very root of all forms of
narrow mindedness that arose out of the feelings of superior birth.
Indeed, the Prophet had taught that righteousness was measured not
on the basis of colour, race or wealth, but on the basis of Godconsciousness
alone. “The Arab has no superiority over the non-Arab
or the non-Arab over the Arab; the white over the black or the black
over the white except in the matter of God-consciousness.” (Tabari)
Where slaves are mentioned, the Holy Qur’an remarked that
“some amongst you proceed from others.”(Qur’an:4:25).
Here the Qur’an has made it clear that both master and slave are
brothers, one to the other, and that it is circumstances alone which
force slavery upon some people.
2. It created an awareness concerning the rights of the slave.
The slave was a mere marketable commodity in all ancient
societies. His lot was confined to duties alone. His obligation was
simply to strive for an increase in the comforts and luxury enjoyed by
the master and in this regard, there was to be no compromise
whatsoever. It was a paramount necessity that the slave was in good
shape in order that he be able to work for his master. Indeed, it was
for this reason, and for this reason alone, that he was provided with
food. The slaves lived in yards which world not have sufficed to
accomodate not even cattle and other livestock. As for the clothes
that they were provided with, they were sufficient not even to cover
their nakedness such filthy pieces of clothes they were!
Islam brought about a transformation in the situation. It taught
that the slave was the brother of the master and that he had rights as
well. The Prophet commanded: “They are your brothers and relatives!
Let each one provide for the brother under him with the food that he
himself eats and with the clothes that he himself wears. Place not
upon them any task that is overbearing for them. If you do assign
them a difficult task, you must help them in its execution.” (Bukhari,
Muslim)
The duty of the slave, in primitive societies, was never confined
to mere labour. He was also doomed to be at the receiving end of his
master’s sadistic pleasures like. The most cruel flogging while at work
and to be always ready to kill and to be killed for the sake of his
master’s pleasure. TheQur’an commanded that such a state of affairs
must change. It insisted on the humane and proper treatment of the
slaves. “Serve Allah, and join not any partners with Him; and do good
- to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, those in need, neighbours who are of
kin, neighbours who are strangers, the companion by your side, the
way-farer (ye meet), and what your right hands possess: for
Allah loveth not the arrogant, the vainglorious.”(Qur’an 4:36)
The Prophet had clearly stated, “If anyone kills a slave, we
shall kill him. If anyone maims a slave, we shall maim him as well. If
anyone castrates his slave, we shall castrate him.”(Muslim, Abu
Dawood)
From being the choice commodity for the master’s foibles and
intricacies, the slave was being transformed into a being with his very
own personality and rights. It was in a society in which existed the
heinous practice of castrating slaves that the Prophet had, in the most
unambiguous terms, declared that the master who castrates his slave
will, in turn, ‘be castrated by us.’ The slaves were castrated in order
that their sexual impulses be destroyed, whereby, they could then be
made to work like animals. Islam, which prohibited this practice,
particularly instructs that means should be made available for the
satisfaction of the sexual instincts of the slave also. “Marry those
among you who are single, and the virtuous ones among your slaves,
male or female: if they are in poverty, Allah will give them means out
of His grace: for Allah is Ample-giving, and He knoweth all things.”
(Qur’an 24:32)
Furthermore, the Qur’an prohibited the system of forcing female
slaves into prostitution. “Let those who find not the wherewithal for
marriage keep themselves chaste, until Allah gives them means out of
His grace. And if any of your slaves ask for a deed in writing (for
emancipation) give them such a deed if ye know any good in them;
yea, give them something yourselves out of the means which Allah
has given to you. But force not your maids to prostitution when they
desire Chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this
life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is Allah
Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” (Qur’an 24:33)
The Prophet had taught against even uttering anything that might
injure the self-respect of the slave. The Prophet, who had taught that
had made it clear that the slave, too, enjoyed self-respect upon which
none had the right to trespass. The Prophet had admonished his
companion, Abu Dharr, who, in an angry tussle with his slave, had
called him ‘the son of a black woman’, in the following manner: “ O
Abu Dharr…. There remains in you something of the culture of the
days of darkness.”
Islam teaches that the slave has the right to become even a
leader and that in the event that he does get appointed as a leader, it is
obligatory to obey him. “Even if it be a negro slave, with hair like dried
grapes, who is appointed as your leader, you must hear and obey him.”
Abu Hurairah, the companion of the Prophet, once scolded a man
who had his slave walking behind the camel on which he was riding,
“Seat him behind thee for he is thy brother and it is the same soul as
yours that is within him.”
Islam gave new dimension to the relation between master and
slave by insisting that the master and the slave both had the same soul.
It is true, neverthless, that the slave does come under the jurisdiction
of the master. However, the master is duty-bound to fulfill the rights of
the slave. It is his duty to meet the slave’s requirements of food, clothing,
sexual gratification and the like. The slave is never to be harmed. He
should not be put into difficulty by entrusting him with burdensome
tasks as well. In such fashion did Islam create a revolution of sorts in
raising the slave, for the first time in history, to the position of a free
man.
It was through these means that it became possible for Islam to
bridge the wide gap that existed between the mental states of the
master and the slave. The end result of this revolution was that the
owner was emancipated from the belief that the slave was a commodity
on which he could carry out any inhuman act according to his whims
and fancy. At the same time, the slave was freed of the notion that he
was doomed to a fate in which he was to bear with patience all the
hardships and forever indulge in back-breaking toil.
3. Declared the emancipation of slaves to be an act of
righteousness.
By declaring the slaves to be human beings who had rights of
its own, Islam had technically made slavery non-existent. Without
stopping at that point, however, it went further by turning to a course
of action which would, in time, serve to eliminate the system in a very
practical sense indeed. This practical step which Islam had adopted to
make slavery virtually non-existent was its act of declaring the
emancipation of slaves to be an act of righteousness. The position of
the Prophet as regards the emancipation of slaves was such that it
only reinforced the meaning of the Qur'anic reference that “Those
who follow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find
mentioned in their own (Scriptures) – In the Taurat and the Gospel; for
he commands them what is just and forbids them what is evil; he
allows them as lawful what is good (and pure) and prohibits them
from what is bad (and impure) : He releases them from their heavy
burdens and from the yokes that are upon them. So it is those who
believe in him, honour him, help him, and follow the Light which is sent
down with him, it is they who will prosper.” (Qur'an 7:157)
The Qur'anic verse which makes it clear that the emancipation
of slaves is an act of the highest virtue goes as follows: “And what will
explain to thee the path that is steep? (It is) freeing the bondman; or the
giving of food in a day of privation, to the orphan with claims of
relationship, or to the indigent (down) in the dust.” (Qur'an 90:12-16)
As far as the emancipation of slaves was concerned, the Prophet
had exhorted his companions towards it by, firstly, making an example
himself. He set free the slaves who were in his possession. His
companions, too, followed the same path. In this context, it may be
seen that Abu Bakr (r), a man of prominence amongst the companions,
spent countless wealth in purchasing slaves from the pagans for setting
them free.
There are numerous sayings of the Prophet which encourage
the freeing of slaves. “If anyone sets free a believing slave, each of
his body parts will be set free from Hell so much so that it will be the
hand for a hand, the leg for a right up to the sexual organ for the
sexual organ.” (Bukhari, Muslim)
Once the companion, Abu Dharr (r), asked the Prophet, “Which
is the highest act in the emancipation of slaves ?” The Prophet replied,
“To set free the most valuable slave of the master.”
The Prophet, while talking about those who become deserving
of God’s reward twice, said, “He who confers a proper behaviour
upon the female slave under him, then gives her the best education,
sets her free and then marries her will become entitled to a double reward.” (Bukhari, Muslim)
Thus it was that the believers, both during the time of the Prophet
and afterwards, began to set slaves free expecting, in return, the reward
from the Lord Creator itself. Besides this, a situation came up wherein
even the wealth of Zakat began to be used for the emancipation of
slaves. It may be seen from history that during the reign of Umar bin
Abdul Azeez, when there was not a single needy person to accept the
wealth of Zakat, this money was used to purchase slaves in order to
set them free.
4. Emancipation of slaves was made the act of expiation for
many types of sin.
In addition to encouraging the believers towards its commission
by declaring the emancipationof slaves to be a virtuous deed, Islam
recommended it as an act of expiation for many types of sin. The
atonement for sins like unintentional murder and breaking one’s vow of
not approaching his wife was the freeing of one slave. As for those who
were not ready to free slaves in expectation of divine reward alone, the
command which made the emancipation of slaves an atoning act for
sins committed, nevertheless, made it necessary for them to do so.
5. The facility of providing the slave with his freedom in exchange
of the ransom value was made possible.
Let us suppose that it was still not possible for a slave to become
free by any of the means listed above. Even then freedom is not
unattainable for him. Islam has opened a way out for any slave who
desires his freedom. This becomes possible through a emancipation
deed known by the technical name Mukathaba. If the yearning for
freedom becomes entrenched within, it becomes possible for any slave
to become a free man through the Mukathaba. The master and the
slave get together to decide upon a ransom value and a time-frame for
its payment on mutually agreeable terms. It is further possible for the
slave to go out and work to earn this ransom value himself. Thus, the
slave is enabled to pay the ransom value in instalments. With the
completion of this payment he becomes a free man.
Through this facility, Islam has made possible the opportunity
for fulfilling the dream of independence of any slave in whose heart
arises such a desire. What if the slave, after having written down the
document for his freedom, is unable to pay the ransom amount within
the stipulated time period? Islam has provided the solution for this as
well. One of the eight heads under which the Zakat wealth is to be
expended is for the emancipation of slaves (Qur'an 9:60). If it happens
that a slave is unable to pay his ransom value according to the
Mukathaba, he can approach the Baithulmal (public treasury) for
the purpose. It is the responsibility of those who handle it to set the
man free by making use of a stipulated amount from it. Here Islam
has devised a way which makes use of a portion of the wealth of the
wealthy to emancipate slaves.
As far as the problem of slavery is concerned, Islam adopted a
line of action which provided for the freedom from the binding chains
by teaching the slave what freedom actually means and by enabling
them to free themselves from dependence on others. In reality, there
has been no other course of action to which anyone could point and
say that that was a better way than the method adopted by Islam in
the case of slavery. If that is to be really appreciated it would be
necessary to view the problem from the perspective of the time and
the society in which it prevailed as an established institution in itself.
Slavery can't be abolished in Islam unless you throw away all the verses in the quran which allow it.
Alhamdulillah very good replay they cant understand the real meaning of islam
to sarha and all the members plz study Islamic views of slavery before posting
plz click below link and then criticize about it ,most of the people don't know the islamic history and slavery,they just posting their own views about it…………….plz read the truth……………………………..
http://www.faithfreedom.org/articles/persecution-…
you are a liar and deceiver, write your own misleading, making ISLAM look good is your agenda. Why do you have to accept all evil,cruel, bigoted ,bloodthirsty, incestuous aspects of ISLAM ? Becoz you think that you are born into that ISLAM, do you think you can defend it ? where is your own humanity, fairness,decency in you? Are you devoid of fairness, compassion, goodness, decency and peace ? yes , you are , as Moslem you are in darkness with no good human values. leave ISLAM and enter into humanity and be good, proud humanbeing – knowing that you support and praqctice kindness, love,peace. As long as you follow ISLAM, it is impossible to be a good human being. As a moslem you hate nonmoslems, bigoted about infidels,kafirs, , you practice discrimination, fascism,bloodthirsty attitude, cruelty and partiality towards moslems.
what about f#cking the girls your right hand possesses? Does it say anything about that? Is it OK to f#ck them right after killing their husbands and fathers, or should you wait for the blood to dry?
to shablear, quit telling everyone what to do. I'd like YOu to go do some reading if you don't mind.
my surprise my history professor never taught us that muhammad was master in enslaveing.its beyond my understanding that how can people admire muhammad or can accept him as their exampler.
You sound like you've had a very bad experience with and Indian man that you were deeply in love with and ditched you for a desi girl.
A good one there, Fatima. I wonder why Irishjenna is edgy about Indians.
This fellow , called Shabeer, is realy fully brainwashed. He doesn't read, he doesn't listen.He goes on and on with his fuzzy storytelling. If he just did read his koran,thats all .It is supposedly the true word of his "god" allah.So this word of allah is for all the time (now, the past and the future). The Koran itself says that it is a clear book, in detail explained and without errors.
@peace
CAN YOU TAKE THE CHALLENGE?
PLZ POST AT LEAST ONE ERROR VERSES FROM QURAN …………………………………………………..
Surah 6:151: قلْ تَعَالَوْا أَتْلُ مَا حَرَّمَ رَبُّكُمْ عَلَيْكُمْ أَلَّا تُشْرِكُوا بِهِ شَيْئًا وَبِالْوَالِدَيْنِ إِحْسَانًا وَلا تَقْتُلُوا أَوْلادَكُمْ مِنْ إِمْلاقٍ نَحْنُ نَرْزُقُكُمْ وَإِيَّاهُمْ وَلا تَقْرَبُوا الْفَوَاحِشَ مَا ظَهَرَ مِنْهَ
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Allah FORBIDS you to NOT to associate partners and FORBIDS you to listen to your parents.
what the problem with the verses
Say, "Come, I will recite what your Lord has prohibited to
you. [He commands] that you not associate anything with
Him, and to parents, good treatment, and do not kill your
children out of poverty; We will provide for you and them.
And do not approach immoralities – what is apparent of them
and what is concealed. And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden [to be killed] except by [legal] right. This has
He instructed you that you may use reason."[6:151]
here Allah prohibited only the major crime "that you not associate anything with
Him (shirk)"
then he says other part…………………………….
what the problem with the verses
Say, [O Muúammad], “Bring forward your witnesses who will
testify that Allah has prohibited this.” And if they testify, do
not testify with them. And do not follow the desires of those
who deny Our verses and those who do not believe in the
Hereafter, while they equate [others] with their Lord.
Say, “Come, I will recite what your Lord has prohibited to
you. [He commands] that you not associate anything with
Him, and to parents, good treatment, and do not kill your
children out of poverty; We will provide for you and them.
And do not approach immoralities – what is apparent of them
and what is concealed. And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden [to be killed] except by [legal] right. This has
He instructed you that you may use reason.”[6:150,151]
here Allah says the verses “Say, “Come, I will recite what your Lord has prohibited to
you. [He commands] that you not associate anything with
Him” associated the 150 verses,what it ” who do not believe in the
Hereafter, while they equate [others] with their Lord. ”
the second verses independent from the first verses that ” to parents, good treatment, and do not kill your
children out of poverty; We will provide for you and them.
And do not approach immoralities – what is apparent of them
and what is concealed. And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden [to be killed] except by [legal] right. This has
He instructed you that you may use reason.”
how can it match and how can it a wrong verses?
then he says other part…………………………….
Quran says Mary, the mother of Jesus, is the same person as Maryam, the sister of Moses and Aaron. The two Marys were born thousands of years apart and are two different people;
[youtube lOt_9wajVgY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOt_9wajVgY youtube]
Christians during the time of Muhammad pointed out the error to Muhammad and Aisha. Muhammad tried to make up some excuse and Aisha was totally shocked and believed that Mary and Maryam was one in the same.
Christian missionaries have been calling Mary addressed as Sister of Aaron(P) a contradiction. Below is the verse:
At length she brought the (babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms). They said: “O Mary! truly an amazing thing hast thou brought! “O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman unchaste!” [Qur'an 19:27-28]
It turns out that Christians in Najran during the time of the Prophet(P) raised a similar objection and it was answered by the Prophet(P). In Sahih Muslim, the hadith related by Mughirah ibn Shu`bah [5326] says:
When I came to Najran, they (the Christians of Najran) asked me: You read “O sister of Harun” (i.e. Maryam) in the Qur’an, whereas Moses was born much before Jesus. When I came back to Allah’s Messenger(P) I asked him about that, whereupon he said: The (people of the old age) used to give names (to their persons) after the names of Apostle and pious persons who had gone before them.
This claim of contradiction is apparently mistaken because it disregards both the Arabic idiom and the context of the verse. In Arabic the word akhun or ukhtun (Underlined with Red colour in the images) carries two meanings.
Blood brother or sister and
Brotherhood/sisterhood in clan and faith.
The above verse has used the word ukhtun in the second sense. This is not unusual as the Qur’an uses the same idiomatic expression in several earlier verses. In chapter 11 verse 78, Prophet Lot refers to the women folk of his community as my daughters.
And his people came rushing towards him, and they had been long in the habit of practising abominations. He said: “O my people! Here are my daughters: they are purer for you (if ye marry)! Now fear Allah, and cover me not with shame about my guests! Is there not among you a single right-minded man?” [Qur'an 11:78]
In Chapter 7 verses 65, 73 and 85 Prophets Hud, Saleh and Shuaib(P) are referred to as “brothers” of their respective peoples.
And unto (the tribe of) A’ad (We sent) their brother, Hud. He said: O my people! Serve Allah. Ye have no other Allah save Him. Will ye not ward off (evil)? [Qur'an 7:65]
And to (the tribe of) Thamud (We sent) their brother Salih. He said: O my people! Serve Allah. Ye have no other Allah save Him. A wonder from your Lord hath come unto you. Lo! this is the camel of Allah, a token unto you; so let her feed in Allah’s earth, and touch her not with hurt lest painful torment seize you. [Qur'an 7:73]
And unto Midian (We sent) their brother, Shu’eyb. He said: O my people! Serve Allah. Ye have no other Allah save Him. Lo! a clear proof hath come unto you from your Lord; so give full measure and full weight and wrong not mankind in their goods, and work not confusion in the earth after the fair ordering thereof. That will be better for you, if ye are believers. [Qur'an 7:85]
The people of Lot are also mentioned in chapter 50 verse 13 as the brothers of Lot except for the word “banatii” which means my daughters in 11:78, all other references have used the word “akhun” which means brother.
The ‘Ad, Pharaoh, the brethren of Lut, (Qur’an 50:13)
And in another place, the Qur’an addresses the believers as brothers-in-faith.
The Believers are but a single Brotherhood: So make peace and reconciliation between your two (contending) brothers; and fear Allah, that ye may receive Mercy. [Qur'an 49:10]
George Sale in his translation of the Qur’an says:
From the identity of names it has been generally imagined by Christian writers that the Koran here confounds Mary the mother of Jesus with Mary of Miriam, the sister of Moses and Aaron; which intolerable anachronism, if it were certain, is sufficient of itself to destroy the pretended authority of this book. But though Mohammed may be supposed to have been ignorant enough in ancient history and chronology, to have committed so gross a blunder; yet I do not see how it can be made out from the words of the Koran. For it does not follow, because two persons have the same name, and have each a father and brother who bear the same names, that they must therefore necessarily be the same whereby it manifestly appears that Mohammed well knew and asserted that Moses preceded Jesus several ages. And the commentators accordingly fail not to tell us, that there had passed about one thousand eight hundred years between Amran the father of Moses and Amrean the father of the Virgin Mary: they also make them the sons of different persons; the first, they say, was the son of Yeshar, or Izhar (though he was really his brother) the son of Kahath, the son of Levi; and the other was the son of Matthan, whose genealogy they trace, but in a very corrupt and imperfect manner, up to David and thence to Adam. It must be observed that though the Virgin Mary is called in the Koran, the sister of Aaron, yet she is nowhere called the sister of Moses.[1]
In the Bible, Elizabeth was called daughters of Aaron(P). Was she literally a daughter of Aaron?
In the days of Herod, King of Judea, there was a priest named Zechari’ah, of the division of Abi’jah; and he had a wife of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elizabeth. [Luke 1:5, RSV]
Or Jesus(P) was addressed as Son of David in the Bible. Was he literally Son of David(P)?
And the crowds that went before him and that followed him shouted, “Hosanna to the Son of David! Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord! Hosanna in the highest!” [Matthew 21:9 RSV]
But when the chief priests and the scribes saw the wonderful things that he did, and the children crying out in the temple, “Hosanna to the Son of David!” they were indignant; [Matthew 21:15 RSV]
If we take that literally then it is also a contradiction in the Bible.
And Allah knows best.
Why did he say "kin of Aaron" out of the blue? What has Aaron got to do with anything? If your story were true he would have said "sister of Moses" Moses was the phrophrt, not Aaron
And Allah knows f#ck all.
oh fool aaron and moses are both prophets and brothers. if u dont know anything then dont speak about that
"Christian missionaries"?
Uh…they live in the United States…it is to REMIND the Muslim "missionaries" who are LYING to do Dawah in the U.S. that there are mistakes and contradictions in the Quran.
There are no Christian "missionaries" in the States. YOU Muslims are the ones doing "missionary" or dawah in the West not the Christians.
Why did Muhammad say the Injeel was correct? So you are saying that Muhammad was liar and the Quran is false?
Quran 33
"He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what was before it. And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel (the Injeel)
Abdullah Yusuf Ali -"It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it; and He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down the criterion (of judgment between right and wrong)."
Mufti Taqi Usmani – "He has revealed to you the Book with the truth, confirming what has been before it, and has sent down the Torah and the Injil"
Muhammad Marmaduke Pickthall – "He hath revealed unto thee (Muhammad) the Scripture with truth, confirming that which was (revealed) before it, even as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel"
Sahih International – "He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what was before it. And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel."
So… if the Bible and Torah are corrupt…then the Quran is false, because the Quran says that the Bible and Torah ARE CORRECT?
Quran 5:46;
Abdullah Yusuf Ali – "And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah."
Mufti Taqi Usmani – "We sent =Isa son of Maryam after those prophets, confirming the Torah that was (revealed) before him, and We gave him the Injil having guidance and light therein, and confirming the Torah that was (revealed) before it; a guidance and a lesson for the God-fearing."
Muhammad Marmaduke Pickthall – "And We caused Jesus, son of Mary, to follow in their footsteps, confirming that which was (revealed) before him, and We bestowed on him the Gospel wherein is guidance and a light, confirming that which was (revealed) before it in the Torah a guidance and an admonition unto those who ward off (evil)."
Sahih International – "And We sent, following in their footsteps, Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming that which came before him in the Torah; and We gave him the Gospel, in which was guidance and light and confirming that which preceded it of the Torah as guidance and instruction for the righteous."
And don't give me that B.S.about Paul changing the Injil, the Bible, because Paul died 67AD.
So according to the Quran the Bible and Torah ARE CORRECT…if you disaree…than you are saying the Quran is false
Tauraat is the scripture that was given to Moosa (a). Similarly,
the Zaboor and the Injeel are the books that were given to Dawood (a)
and Isa (a). The Qur'an introduces the scriptures as those that were
revealed by the Lord Creator Himself. “It was We who revealed
the Torah (to Moses): therein was guidance and light.” (5:44)
“And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary,
confirming the Torah that had come before him: We sent him the
Gospel: therein was guidance and light.” (5:46)
From this it is abundantly clear that these scriptures were all in
fact, revealed by the Lord Creator Himself. But this is not the case
with the books of the Bible. They were all written centuries after the
messengers. Indeed, there is not even a single book in the Bible
which can reasonably be believed to have been revealed to the
messengers. It is the traditional belief of the Jews that Moses (a),
himself, had written the Pentateuch (Torah); not that it was revealed
by God. However, modern research indicates that even the traditional
belief that Moses had written the Pentateuch is, in itself, baseless. It
is the opinion of the scholars that since the death of Moses, and the
events that followed his death, have been described in the Pentateuch
(Deuteronomy 34:5-10), it can never be that Moses (a) had written
the book himself. Similar is the case of the Book of Psalms. In actual
fact, there is not in it, a single Psalm that can be authoritatively said to
have been written by David. In the Gospels, too, although there is
mention, therein, of the true Gospel of God which Jesus had actually
preached (Mark 1:14,15), there is no clear picture about this Gospel
in the four accounts in the Bible. As for the Gospels in the New
testament, it was written at least five decades after Jesus. The gospels
give but vastly differing and contradictory accounts of the life of Jesus.
It is now clear that none of these was the true scripture that was revealed
to Jesus. In short, therefore, even though the various books of the
Bible do quote certain ideas from the Tauraat, the Zaboor and the
Injeel, it cannot be said that they are present in the Bible in all their
fullness and purity.
We had enough of destruction and death brought on by ISLAM and christianity in this world , through JIHADS and CRUSADES , resulting in the rivers of blood of innocent people. ISLAM must be eradicated . ISLAM is stark darkness and pure evil, cruelty.
MANY errors and contradictions in the Quran;
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Your reply hardly touches David Wood's exegesis, which is based totally in the Koran and Hadith and shows that your opening point is but the tip of the iceberg of this error.
There is one point in your reply worth commenting on: "daughter of Aaron" / "Son of David".
The "daughter of" and "son of" part is a way of saying "of the tribe of", or – if you prefer – means that person so referred to is the (many times greatgrand)son/daughter of the person.
But NOTE: this is NOT the same as saying "SISTER of" which implies of the same GENERATION.
Errors and contradictions in the Quran;
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more
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more;
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more;
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There are so many videos PROVING the Quran has errors and contradictions that the YOUR CHALLENGE HAS BEEN MET
…and claiming the Bible and Torah are corrupt, changed or has contradictions IS ANOTHER ERROR by the Quran because Muhammad said both Bible and Torah are correct and the words of "Allah" cannot be changed….lol
answering all wrong allegation(not contradiction,quran has no contradiction only some criticizes misunderstanding or they easily avoid the valuable things,and bring the unimportant things )
The following Anti-Islamic claims are from http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/index…. 95% of those Anti-Islamic claims are very silly. In my opinion, they are not even worth responding to. But unfortunately, they have to be responded to because the Muslims and the non-Muslims need to learn about what both sides have to say.
plz click the link
http://www.answering-christianity.org/quran/quran…
Answering-Christianity is a Muslim missionary hate site.
WOA Shabeer!
"Unimportant things" in the Koran?
And here was I, thinking that since (according to you) the Koran is literally Allah's word, it must all be important, not to mention 100% perfectly true and accurate in every detail (as you also claim).
PLewase let me know which are the "unimportant" parts of the Koran (or do you mean the abrogated verses?).
Another thing that I "don't get" Shabeer, you lower link (above) refers mostly to pages that talk about the Bible, how is this a rebuttal of criticism of the KORAN?
You are a moslem,brainwashed and wants to follow the MO ,monster, a pedo,rapist,cruel,evil doer, a terrorist, a deceiver , a hate monger, a bigoted profiteer profit . Why do you choose to follow evil things in life ? Becoz you follow ISLAM, you are blinded , lost good reasoning , you lost your good heart. Now as moslem you believe in every evil, cruel thing, bigoted, hate filled, biased, and partial. This explains everything about you.
SHbeer—- I would like to bring to your attention – that ISLAM means
Religious apartheid ( look at any SO called Moslem country and study the regimes, ISLAMIC rules and sharia )
Gender apartheid ( LOOK at any oslem country and moslem society . really abominable the way the moslem men treat moslem women as sex slaves )
Racial apartheid ( look at SODI ARABIA and PAKISTAN, AFGHANISTAN and IRAN, kuwait, ).
In ADDITION, a concept called HAREM is the special invention of ISLAM/ Moslems. IN this, the Moslem rulers ( eg rashid haroon, jahangir,shajahan,akbar , sultans in turkey used to keep thousands of women as sex slaves / concubines, looked after by eunuchs (gaurds ) – men who were castrated by Moslems/rulers.. Moslem rulers were concerned that if men are not castrated , they can enter into sex with their concubines.
hey coward hindu i ask u to explain the noble hinduism to me. but u are running and hiding.u have no moral to criticise shabeer. he os trying to defend but u are running and hiding. who is better?
Hi Mohammad, visit agniveer.com to get answers for every question on hinduism. http://agniveer.com/5095/what-is-vedic-religion/
ok . are u a agniveer?
Mo_ham_MAD – Good news for you .You have to do some work !!!! Use your head and intelliegnce.
First read BHAGAVAD-GITA , VEDAS and UPANISHADS — all books of atleast 5000 yrs old!!!! pre dates ISLAM/MO by atleast 3 to 4 thousands years !!! Out of the 4 vedas – one sama veda is devoted to music and dance !!! You do remember that in ISLAM /MO/ QQUURRAN – dance, music and singing is strictly prohibited and painting too !!! Once you read the above mentioned scriptures – and apply your brain, then you will be enlightened . guaranteed. I dont have to defend any scripture (above) , those stand by their own merit and nobility. Moslems say defend ? Defend who for what ? It is there in QQUURRAAN – all evil, all wickedness, all cruelty, all ignorance, all discrimination , all hatred, all bigotry, all violence, all intolerance, all killing , all fascism , all slavery !!!!!! what proof do you need ?
the first lie is vedas 5000year old. they are just 3500 ear old.and there is no surprise in vedas are supporting music and singing. because as the ariyan wanderers were always use " soma baanam and surra baanam" they needed such recreations.and you know i am from tamil nadu and our people even before 100 years tore the mask of hinduism. do u know "thanthai periyar and annadurai" and ex chief minster karunanithi are already expose hinduism. tamil nadu is the only state in india where the BJP cannot get even a single seat or vote. as tamilians we are well educated by our great ancestors about hinduism. they all are hindus but expose hinduism.so as a tamilian i know very well about hinduism. so dont try to sell your bogus vedas to a brave tamilian
MO_HAM_MAD ::: It is precisely that you are a TAMILIAN, must know the truth. Please leave ISLAM- the savagery,barbarism,primitive ,cruel, evil ,hate filled, bigotted theology and blood thirsty. U must learn truth. You must embark on the path of nobility of SANATAN DHARMA .This is possible only if you renounce and denounce ISLAM/MO/QQUURRAAN. There is nothing good INISLAM. Find out read, learn truth by your intelligence and own thinking. There is GHALIB MIRZA , writing articles on this web site , his own observations and experiences in SODI ARABIA , eye witness + his readings of QQUURRAAN and SIRA and HADITHS.
Let us discuss facts, truth. That Karunanidhi is a monster is clear to anybody. At one time we all thought that K.Nidhi was good. But look at his deeds and what he did – with 3to 5 wives. No moral character. TAMILANADU , he made his personal property and in his pocket ? Dividing people on caste, religious lines (like ISLAM ) is his ploy.
i thank you Sarah A. for this repot. yes, Mo was a slave owner and traded slaves for horses and arms. menahwile, Jesus, niether owned nor traed slaves. he was of the poorer classes and taught people shoudl GIVE AWAY possessions (Mo was quite wealthy from the booty he stole throguh raids and taxes). while Mo had cex with a 9-year-odl girl, Jesus never has sex with any child. comapre and contrast.
A big part of Moe's war booty was female human beings whose families were now all dead and had a life of f#cking stinky Arabs to look forward to.
wat wealth did the prophet own? i think ur mistaken if u thought he was rich. he used to live humbly just like all the prophets(peace be upon them), and when jesus (isa peace be upon him) returns and if we are still alive we can ask him all these questions then. he will clear the differences between us(jews, christians and muslims) before he dies. althought its actually just muslims and christians who believe he is the messiah. jews are waiting on another prophet. which the muslims actually believe will be the anti-christ or in islam we say dajaal. and in islamic tradition jesus (pbuh) he is gonna be buried next to prophet muhammed (peace be upon him). try reading about islam instead of just regurgitating nonsense.
The "profit" Mohammad got twenty per cent of the take including female human beings. Didn't you know that? You're right, you're not much of a solar.
he didnt keep that money u fool. it went to the poor. the prophet didnt keep any of the wealth. it was all given out. u just read certain things and assume. actually do research. and ur right. im not a scholar. but i wont get decieved by ur lies
That's an interesting rumour. I wonder who made that story up?
if u are strong in ur point that our prophet(pbuh) had more wealth then prove it. u cannot. i give u a simple example when our prophet (pbuh) died his armour was in the hand of a jewish pawnproker for some least food grains at that time he was the king of the whole arabian peninsula and governed one lakh and forty square miles.is a king lived such a life in the world ever?.he did not eat two days continually in his prophecy life. the normal food of his home is wheat and water nothing else. so where were the wealth he acquired by war?
MO made himself rich – by aquiring women hundreds of them , He saw ayesha in his dream when she was 4 yrs old !!!! He became the king of whole of ARABIA !!! If Mo was interested in religion, he will not go on killing, conquering spree ? ruling and be a king is not wealth ? then what else? He spend all that to build evil empire !!! Why is he interested in empire, camels, and property? A religious person will never ask for , or think of killing, conquering and destruction, taking women as his concubines and wives after killing his enemies. This is all cruelty in extreme, demonism, lust,greed. Tell us- did you read SIRA ? after reading that write here what you liked in MO 's character. From the book SIRA – MO was – a pedo ( married AYESHA at 6 yrs ) raped many women, killed thousands by deception, lies, Mo was deceiver, Mo was robber. The evidence is presented from QQUURRAAN, SIRA and HADITHS .
Mo married a wealthy business woman for wealth .
Mo_HAM_MAD;;;; DID you see the video , below by an arabic (KUWAITI) woman. She wants slavery and sex back and shou;ld be introduced in all ISLAMIC countries.
Also, are you seeing all the videos presented on this web site ? by various people ? They are all proof !!! Why do you want to live as a monster in ISLAM ? It is your choice. Leave ISLAM.
and live a pure,happy,peaceful life .
dharma
i know islam 100 % and other religions. and i testify that "THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH AND PROPHET(PBUH) IS HIS MESSENGER AND SLAVE"
MO_HAM_MAD ;;; That means you are intolerant of other religions !!!! why are you making MO , as equivalent or the boss of ALLA ? It is blashphemy. If you read QQUURRAN, honestly and truthfully think, then it is clear that MO was the boss of ALLA. Is there any place or QQUURRANIC verse where MO is not associated or partner of ALLA ? I think using my intelligence that MO was the boss of ALLA – brcoz ALLA did whatever MO wanted him to do !!!!! Is it not ?
Great article. Can any muslim show a verse from the Koran prohibiting or abolishing slavery? Although slavery is pre-Islamic, it never crossed Allah's mind to ban it altogther.
Through this facility, Islam has made possible the opportunity
for fulfilling the dream of independence of any slave in whose heart
arises such a desire. What if the slave, after having written down the
document for his freedom, is unable to pay the ransom amount within
the stipulated time period? Islam has provided the solution for this as
well. One of the eight heads under which the Zakat wealth is to be
expended is for the emancipation of slaves (Qur’an 9:60). If it happens
that a slave is unable to pay his ransom value according to the
Mukathaba, he can approach the Baithulmal (public treasury) for
the purpose. It is the responsibility of those who handle it to set the
man free by making use of a stipulated amount from it. Here Islam
has devised a way which makes use of a portion of the wealth of the
wealthy to emancipate slaves.
“If anyone sets free a believing slave, each of
his body parts will be set free from Hell so much so that it will be the
hand for a hand, the leg for a right up to the sexual organ for the
sexual organ.” (Bukhari, Muslim)
Once the companion, Abu Dharr (r), asked the Prophet, “Which
is the highest act in the emancipation of slaves ?” The Prophet replied,
“To set free the most valuable slave of the master.”
The Prophet, while talking about those who become deserving
of God’s reward twice, said, “He who confers a proper behaviour
upon the female slave under him, then gives her the best education,
sets her free and then marries her will become entitled to a double
reward.” (Bukhari, Muslim)
“O mankind! We created you from a single (pair)
of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye
may know each other (not that ye may despise each other). Verily the
most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most
righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted
(with all things).” (Qur’an 49:13)
“The Arab has no superiority over the non-Arab
or the non-Arab over the Arab; the white over the black or the black
over the white except in the matter of God-consciousness.” (Tabari)
“They are your brothers and relatives!
Let each one provide for the brother under him with the food that he
himself eats and with the clothes that he himself wears. Place not
upon them any task that is overbearing for them. If you do assign
them a difficult task, you must help them in its execution.” (Bukhari,
Muslim)
“Serve Allah, and join not any partners with Him; and do good
- to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, those in need, neighbours who are of
kin, neighbours who are strangers, the companion by your side, the
way-farer (ye meet), and what your right hands possess: for
Allah loveth not the arrogant, the vainglorious.”(Qur’an 4:36)
“If anyone kills a slave, we
shall kill him. If anyone maims a slave, we shall maim him as well. If
anyone castrates his slave, we shall castrate him.”(Muslim, Abu davood)
“Marry those
among you who are single, and the virtuous ones among your slaves,
male or female: if they are in poverty, Allah will give them means out
of His grace: for Allah is Ample-giving, and He knoweth all things.”
(Qur’an 24:32)
“Let those who find not the wherewithal for
marriage keep themselves chaste, until Allah gives them means out of
His grace. And if any of your slaves ask for a deed in writing (for
emancipation) give them such a deed if ye know any good in them;
yea, give them something yourselves out of the means which Allah
has given to you. But force not your maids to prostitution when they
desire Chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this
life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is Allah
Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” (Qur’an 24:33)
Why have slaves in the first place and it is still being practiced today. Verse 4.24 is for all times.
nowadays we have economic slavery. physical slavery is almost abolished. now we have big corporations paying peanuts to children in 3rd world countries for outfits that the average person wears. slavery just has a new name now. islam was to abolish slavery by slowly allowing slave men to become free men. the difference between the slavery in islam and slavery for e.g. when they took the negroes ouut of africa. in africa they stigmatised the black man and made him seem inferior and dehumanised him to the extent that to the white man thats all the were good for. in islam people dont fall into slavery cause they are inferior. the story of yusuf comes to mind. from being thrown down the well by his own brothers. to being sold as a slave for a few misery pennys (not really pennys i think it was dirhams) to being in a position of authority in egypt. he wasnt a slave because he was inferior but because it was part of G-d's ultimate plan. in this economic slavery thru usury the rich stay rich and poor stay poor. thus forever keeping them low and subjected and never allowing them to be free. hope i kind of cleared some things up. but as i said before go to a learned scholar.
ISLAM means religious apartheid, racial apartheid and gender apartheid .
All the middle eastern countries have economic slavery perpetrated by ARAB moslems.
ote that in ISLAM , moslem rulers have harems – where they kept few thousands of women as sex slaves and concubines – called HAREMS. This is purely ISLAMIC invention.
you know nothing of the Muslim slave trade in Africa and the medeterranian?? Please, go and talk to a solar and come back when you know something.
Even if we take your version for argument sake, Abraham Lincon has totally abolished Slavery which was not done by your prophet or all powerful god. What has prevented Almighty & his prophet to abolish slavery in one stroke. So you can not boast of finality or totality of any scripture.
there was a big Christian anti-slavery movement. Where is the Muslim anti-slavery movement? Oh right there isn't one.
Islamic slavery is still continuing in african muslim countries , and gulf countries were last countries to criminalise slavery due to west pressure.
Important woman in modern day "moderate" Muslim country Kuwait says that men should have SLAVE sex slaves from countries they go to war with that are not Muslims. In other words it is OK to have as many woman sex slaves (in modern times) as long as they are not Muslims;
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She says that it is in the Quran and approved islamic text that Muslim men can have Christian,, Jewish, atheist women sex SLAVES and it is no big deal…since it is APPROVED in Islam.
What if I assume to be muslim in such situations and I am not, then they can't use me as a slave. All countries now are cosmopolitan, multiracial, different religion. Difficult to identify whether you muslim or not.
hi Fatima,
great that you have the chance reading FFI.
I`m living in Europe – sorry, but muslim males are raping hundreds of young girls (sometimes even up to 80years-aged women ) all over europe.
Girls in norway try to escape this horrendous (gang-)rape jihad – colouring their hair into black.
Oslo Rape Epidemic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBP1LfLyLzI
UK Muslim Gang Rape 100 Teenage Girls – Wheres The Outrage In PC UK Media? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an-DgorV8HM&fe…
"Your women are our booty" – (to read on posters) at demostrations i.the streets of rotterdam, or london – for example.
Well Fatima to be truthful many Muslim countries today are going backwards and are not progressing forward.
1 Pakistan used to have large Hindu, Christian and Shikh communities, now they are under pressure as Islamists start to control over moderate Muslims. Women in Pakistan held higher offices and are now being pushed back into the house and into the veil.
2 Egypt had the largest Christian community that is older than the Muslims, but they have been fleeing their own ancient indigenous homeland as they are under attack by Salafies and the country is becoming more conservative.
3. Lebanon, was once called the Riviera of the Middle East, and used to be very cosmopolitan and free. Now is under control of hard core Islamists. Lebanon used to be a very wealthy forward country, but now it is poor and backwards.
4. Iran used to be forward thinking about women and very modern before the Mullahs took control, now there is fear, and women are constantly under threat of arrest for not dressing correctly.
6. There used to be Jewish communities in all Middle Eastern countries…now they hardly exist after they have been run out.
7. Music and musicians in many Muslim countries is now under attack as conservative Islamist take control of many Muslim areas.
…and there more and more things.
8. the Syrian insurgents have started to persecute the Xtian minority there too. (Reported via Barnabus Fund and other sources).
Sahih Al-Bukhari, Vol. 3, book 46, hadith 717;
"…The Prophet of Allah did unexpectedly attack the tribe of Al-Mus'taliq short of any warning as they were unconcerned and while they were busy watering their animals. Their fighting men were killed, and their women and children were taken AS SLAVES; The Prophet got Jureyah (the daughter of Mus'taliq tribe leader) on that day. "
This would indicate that only did Muhammad say it was OK to have slaves, but that he RAPED a female captive.
More;
Book of Adau'a Al-Bayean, Vol. 3, number 387;
"The reason to own humans as SLAVES is if Allah gives victory to those who sacrifice their money and their force to fight the kufir (infidels) so if the word Allah gives victory he, Allah, makes them (the enemy) their SLAVES except if the leader chooses to accept ransom for them."
Notice the 1st story shows that the Al-Mus'taliq tribe were NOT attacking the Muslims. They were going about their business when Muhammad and his men attacked them.
What was to be done with those who were captured as prisonersof-
war?
In this regard, the recommendation of the Qur’an is as follows:
“Therefore, when ye meet the unbelievers (in fight), smite at their
necks; at length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind (the
captives) firmly: therefore (is the time for) either generosity or ransom:
until the war lays down its burdens. Thus (are ye commanded): but if
it had been Allah’s Will, he could certainly have exacted retribution
from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some
with others. But those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will never
let their deeds be lost.” (Qur’an 47:4). In this verse, which instructs to
kill the enemies on the battle field, there is also the command to either
ransom or set free those captured in war. In the light of this verse, all
the eminent companions of the Prophet have opined that prisoners-ofwar
were not to be killed.
The Prophet has himself set the precedent in handling prisonersof-
war in four ways:
1. Set them free without any ransom. Prisoners-of-war may be
set at liberty if it is clear that it will not be harmful for the Muslim
society to do so.
2. They may be exchanged for the Muslims captured by the enemies.
3. They may be freed after securing a ransom.
4. They may be divided amongst the Muslims soldiers as slaves.
It may be seen that the Prophet had, in different battles, employed
all the different types of options listed above. Amongst those four
options, the last option of enslaving the prisoners-of-war was used
only when the other three options were wholly impractical. Indeed, if
slavery was totally prohibited, a situation would have come up wherein
the Muslims would never be able to accept this option at all. In actual
fact, therefore, such a situation would have created many a difficulty
for the Muslims especially in a social context wherein such slavery
prevails as an established institution.
Those who where engaged in warfare with the Muslim society
were people who accepted slavery as an option and were warring to
acquire slaves as well. Furthermore, when warring with them, they
either enslaved or killed the Muslims captured by them. If slavery had
been abolished, the Muslims would never have been able to enslave
those captured from their side. This would then have enabled the
enemies to perpetrate even greater cruelty towards the Muslim
prisoners. The Muslims would, moreover, be unable to use the captured
prisoners of the enemy to effectively engage in the negotiation forthe
release of those who were captured from their own side.
you're hanging yourself shablear. They attacked harmless trading caravans and f#ucked and sold the girls. If you want to justify that then you are a monster.
No, Shabeer isn't a monster.
The real monster was the man who instituted this practice …
Can't you read your own hadiths and Islamic books show Muhammad was a slave owner and raped women and held them as slaves.
Muhammad is the most important part of Islam and it shows that Muhamamd was an evil man.
Comment to the Site Administrator:
Dear Site Admin,
OK my curiousity is really piqued today. Maybe you have a very good reason for doing so, but why are comments of "irishjenn" being deleted so frequently? What is she saying that is so awful?
The reason I ask is:
- I did not even notice that this site deletes comments until I began to notice that, over the past few weeks, deletion of irishjenn's comments is almost a daily occurrence.
- I rarely if ever see anyone else's comments deleted, no matter how obtuse, especially if they are anti-muslim (not anti-islam the idealogy, but anti-muslim the people). I would have thought that anti-people comments should at least be rebuked if not removed, that is, if you are moderating any comments at all. I have seen quite a few comments that I would call borderline comments, which you have let slide (which is fine by me, I am not calling for censorship of any such comments).
- I do not condone deletion of any comments unless they call for violence, o are obscene etc. From every comment of irishjenn that I have read to date (not that I read them all but I have read some), that individual does not come across to me, as someone who would make comments worthy of censorship. But this is your site not mine, so of course you should manage it as you see fit.
But anyhow I am respectfully curious: what's up?? I expect you are not just picking on one individual but … thats what it seems like.
You do not have to explain if you do not wish, but my curiosity (and I am sure, that of many others) will remain until you do.
She has been making ugly comments about Indians which I think was not funny. She made a racist remark.
This stupid muslimah in the above video is trully and really fcuked uop in the brain and is truly a demented imbecile woman.She has her brains hidden between her legs.Stupid cretin
Kafirun,
Actually she does not come across as stupid. She comes across as honest, learned and knowledgeable in her religion, willing to ask questions and get answers from reliable sources.
The problem is not her. The problem is that she, like 99.9999% of Muslims out there (men or women), are unable to see this belief system for the evil that it is. She, and all Muslims, do understand that their belief system differs radically from all other belief systems. They know that one is evil and the other is not. The problem is that they have decided that the evil belief system is not theirs but the others.
A Murtadd.
And if the articles are maybe presented in a more subtle way, I think it would be much easier to spread the word
Dear Fatima,
How can the deeds of Muhammad be presented in a more subtle way? If a 50 yr old man marries a 6 yr old child, practices thighing with her until she is 9 and then consummates the marriage (meaning he started having sex with her), how can this be presented in a more subtle way?
I think I like rembrandt_gg's suggestion the best. He suggested asking them to refute the claims here while being on their side. Try doing this one person at a time because if they are in a group they wouldn't want to be seen as being overpowered and will look hard for excuses and may accuse you of things. Start with the 'lighter' claims like the scientific errors in the Quran, before you move on to harsh stuff like exposing the character of the prophet.
Also, if things do not seem to be working, don't push too hard. For you, keeping your life safe should be MOST important. As Ali Sina says "We don't need martyrs".
The WHOLE PROBLEM is that people present evil things in subtle ways! "And the serpent was the subtlest beast of the field." This is what the skolars are paid to do. They can talk their way around anything, and then along come suckers like shablear who swallow it all up. Then they copy and paste it so the rest of us can hear these "explanations" and be converted. Meanwhile, what happens to the victims, that's what I'd like to know.
Islam has a lot to answer for.
i think ul find their is an answer for everything. ask away. but not a layman. we are probably as ignorant as u. ask a scholar. and not one one the payroll of corrupt people. ask true G-d Fearing scholars.
The problem is the answers are not clear due to the contradiction and the males would just abuse and interpret scriptures to suit themselves.
"Ask a skolar" because they are trained to obfuscate everything and wrap it all up in clouds of obscurity and throw sand in our eyes. The Koran says its clear. But you need an army of skolars to get you out of all the holes you are in. That's why it's called the hole-y koran. What would you do without all your skolars? I thought we were all born muslumps. All your big shots with the long beards aren't fooling us any more. F#ck skolars.
the natural disposition a child is born with is to worship one god. its society and other factors which affect us thereafter. thats why in islam if a child dies before the age of maturity they go straight to paradise. sinless. you can curse all u like and truth of the matter is ur not hurting me one bit. im just asking you to read. if u wanna remain ignorant then so be it
I am asking YOU to read. Why should I read reams and reams of your junk, which I have been reading by the way, when YOU are butt ignorant of MY religion, and full of crap about it.
Go read some Christian theology for a while and shut up.
Any person has the right to worship a God it is their personal choice, but you are going off the topic. All are not atheist on this web. It is about following the Golden rule and SLAVERY does not fall in that category.
It is not natural disposition of a child to worship PREISLAMIC MOON GOD ALLA which MO has proscribed !!! this is truth. Moreover , IT is ISLAM and MOSLEMS (ISLAMIC SOCIETY and it's evil ways ) , who injects poison and bigotry, discrimination, extreme bias, cruelty into new born child – see circumscisson, blowing ALLAHO into the ear of child and many other brain washings. Dont you see , you prove that ALLA is not helping you, eventhough you blew into a childs ear ALLLAHO etc !!!! You see , you are lying one thing. second ALLA is nonexistent, hoax, that is why he is not helping you !!!!
The idea of God was there before ISLAM , many thousands of years, developed by SANATANA DHARMA . Note that , sanskrit is the oldest language known to mankind and SANATANA DHARMA is the oldest ,universal religion that exists in world today . ISLAM is just 1450 yrs !!! but also false.
dear friends,it is really great,,to have a front faithfreedom.org,a front against ignorance and fanaticism,i am watching my friend ali sina and all others since 10 years, whos struggel against kings khalifas and allahs.it is not easy job to discuss with psycho stygiophobiens musalmans.islam is paradox,an evil an actual intity that exist only for itself.they don,t try to understand you,,watch it here,watch it everywhere.we say islam allow slavery,and they justifying slavery,and telling us for good bahaviour with slaves.onece again to our friends,if we talk about islam,and forget capitalism,we will not understand islam.the USA is behind arabs,the USA is decieving their own people,keeeping them slaves of God,allow the muslim throatcutters to kill all of us.say no to islam,say no to allah,say no to god,and rich gods.
God bless you my friend.
To Shabeer and all Muslims who claim the Torah and Bible are corrupt and changed, why does the Quran say the Bible and Torah are CORRECT?
Why did Muhammad say the Injeel was correct? So you are saying that Muhammad was liar and the Quran is false?
Quran 33
"He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what was before it. And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel (the Injeel)
Abdullah Yusuf Ali -"It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it; and He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down the criterion (of judgment between right and wrong)."
Mufti Taqi Usmani – "He has revealed to you the Book with the truth, confirming what has been before it, and has sent down the Torah and the Injil"
Muhammad Marmaduke Pickthall – "He hath revealed unto thee (Muhammad) the Scripture with truth, confirming that which was (revealed) before it, even as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel"
Sahih International – "He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what was before it. And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel."
So… if the Bible and Torah are corrupt…then the Quran is false, because the Quran says that the Bible and Torah ARE CORRECT?
Quran 5:46;
Abdullah Yusuf Ali – "And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah."
Mufti Taqi Usmani – "We sent =Isa son of Maryam after those prophets, confirming the Torah that was (revealed) before him, and We gave him the Injil having guidance and light therein, and confirming the Torah that was (revealed) before it; a guidance and a lesson for the God-fearing."
Muhammad Marmaduke Pickthall – "And We caused Jesus, son of Mary, to follow in their footsteps, confirming that which was (revealed) before him, and We bestowed on him the Gospel wherein is guidance and a light, confirming that which was (revealed) before it in the Torah a guidance and an admonition unto those who ward off (evil)."
Sahih International – "And We sent, following in their footsteps, Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming that which came before him in the Torah; and We gave him the Gospel, in which was guidance and light and confirming that which preceded it of the Torah as guidance and instruction for the righteous."
And don't give me that B.S.about Paul changing the Injil, the Bible, because Paul died 67AD.
So according to the Quran the Bible and Torah ARE CORRECT…if you disaree…than you are saying the Quran is false
I guess you have to do in singular;
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more;
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…there are too many to count…lol
we r the true follower of jesus ,but the modern christian avoid the jesus ,they follow the paulism
essence of bible against the paulism:
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explor…
debate to paulism
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explor…
difference between past and present paulism
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concept of god in Christianity(100% modern paulist against the law)
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explor…
bible ,quran and science:(a comparative study between allha quran and paul bible)
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explor…
some truth spreading Barnabas:
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lol…you did not read my posts did you shabeer.
Paul died in 67AD…Muhammad born around 570AD…do the math.
So when Paul change the Injil when he was DEAD HUNDREDS OF YEARS BEFORE MUHAMMAD WAS BORN and the Bible was already complete and being used?
Older Bibles prove that there were minor changes based on language (Just like Arabic translation to other languages show changes), but always had that Jesus is the SON of God and that the Bible was correct.
So…..the evidence is clear…if you say Bible is corrupt then that goes against the Quran and the teachings of Muhammad.
what a childish guy you are. we accept that the injeel is a book from god. but we dont believe that the present day bible is "injeel". because it all written by john, paul, luke and others. as christian believes holy spirit entered in them and they wriiten it from the holy spirit. we dont accept it. the real injeel is corrupted by this so called holy spirits. how can we accept john or paul , we can accept only jesus but the present day bible is written after his death. so we reject it.the quran and prophet(Pbuh) are correct and u are only wrong
lol…apparently many Muslims don't accept the Bible like your friend shabeer.
Muhammad SAID the Bible and Torah correct.
Allah said his words and books CANNOT be changed or corrupted.
So Allah is puny because he could not protect his TWO, not one, books. Meanwhile Interesting Video has proven that the Injil (book of the Bible that Christians used and the Torah used by the Jews) were NOT corrupted and not changed because there are older ones.
How can you accept the Quran when it was done by Uthman ALMOST A HUNDRED YEARS after Muhammad died, it was around 70 years after Muhammad died the Quran was made.
…AND Muhammad said take it for 4 men ONLY, but Uthman did not choose those men, but had others do it. Uthman burned other testimonies from people HE DIDN'T LIKE.
So Uthman made the Quran…..not Muhammad.
So how can you accept Quran if it was made by Uthman and not the men Muhamamd choose?
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Genealogy of Jesus
Genealogy of Jesus claim by Mathews and Luke are different.
Father of Joseph yakube born 24th generation of sons of Salomon (Mathew1:6 to 16)
Father of Joseph heli 39th generation of sons of Nathan (Luke 3:23 to 31)
There are two contradictions:
1)24th generation (Mathew), 39th generation (Luke)
2) Who was father of Joseph? Yakube (Mathew) OR heli (Luke)
What is the truth? What we believe?
From the gospel the only TRUTH thing WAS Either Joseph has two fathers Or Luke or Mathew lire
Apparently you didn't read my posts shabeer.
Quran says Bible and Torah were correct when Muhammad was alive.
Now here is something I guess you didn't know…..Paul died in 67AD, Muhammad born around 570AD Do the math.
Do you know what that means?
Muhammad was reciting in the Quran that the Bible and Torah were correct HUNDREDS OF YEARS after Paul died and Bible was published.
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Now was the Injil (Bible) and Torah changed by Allah's will or against Allah's will?
Now if you claim the Bible (Injil) and Torah have been corrupted…than the Quran is false. You have strayed FAAAAAAR AWAY shabeer if you believe the Bible and Torah has been changed, corrupted or there are contradictions.
quran does not says that the bible and torah of the prophet's(pbuh) period is correct. it only claims that the two books were correct only when they given to the concerned prophets. but after their deaths the preists of the concerned religion changed for the money purpose.the quran clearly says in verse 2:79
79. Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands,
and then say: "This is from Allah," to traffic with it for a
miserable price! –Woe to them for what their hands do write,
and for the gain they make thereby.
Then the Quran is still corrupt and false.
Because the Quran says Allah would protect his books;
Quran; 10:64
Sahih International – “For them are good tidings in the worldly life and in the Hereafter. No change is there in the words of Allah. That is what is the great attainment.”
and;
Quran 6:115
Sahih International – “And the word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can alter His words, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing.”
So then you are saying Allah FAILED to protect his books, meaning he was not God. Because God would never let the Torah and Bible be corrupt.
So Quran is false and contradicts itself.
Let me make this simple…so you can understand.
1. Paul died in 67AD
2. Muhammad born around 570AD
Do the math….when did Paul change Bible if HE WAS DEAD hundreds of years before Muhammad born?
1. There are older Bibles, before Islam and they are almost the same as today's Bible.
2. Muhammad said in Quran that Bible and Torah are correct, not corrupted and no contradiction.
3. Muhammad said in Quran that Bible and Torah can NOT be changed or corrupted because Allah would not let that happen.
NOW…very easy…very simple.
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BTW.:
Isn't the practice of forced marriages also a kind of slavery, especially when it comes to child brides (but not only then)?
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