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Sunni or Shia? Which Poses A Greater Threat?

2/20/2012

Sunni or Shia? Which Poses A Greater Threat?

 Mumin Salih

Choosing between Sunni or Shia is like choosing between the idiot and the fool; both sects come from the same cult called Islam.

There are many other sects in Islam but these two are the major ones. They both came to existence in the seventh century after the assassination of Ali, the fourth of the ‘rightly guided Caliphs’. Ali was elected when the Islamic state was in turmoil following the brutal and merciless assassination of Uthman, the third Caliph.  Muslims endured a civil war that claimed hundreds of thousands of lives. In fact, they still pay with their lives as a result of that divide.

The Shia Muslims were the ones who sided by Caliph, Ali, against the rebels. The Sunni Muslims’ position was, and still, a more interesting one and is in line with their position regarding other Islamic absurdities; in one word: confusing. They believe that Ali was right and did the right thing for the service of Islam. The history of the events, as it reached us, is in support of Ali. In addition, Ali was one of those ten Muslims who were guaranteed places in paradise, according to Mohammed, therefore Allah would protect him from committing sins. However, they refuse to condemn Ali’s opponents, the rebels. Therefore, the Sunnis believe whoever was on the right side and whoever was opposing those who were on the right side were both on the right side!! May look mind boggling, but this is Islam.

Sunni Muslims refuse to discuss this issue on the basis that it is for Allah, not for humans, to judge that situation. The Sunni Muslims developed some phobia towards that part of history; they do not like to discuss it, read about it or know about it!

Of course there is a reason behind this phobia. Both fighting groups were no ordinary Muslims but highly revered companions of Mohammed, known as ‘Sahaba’. Those men were trusted with the Quran and Islam and considered exemplary to other Muslims. Those ‘Sahaba’ were ‘nearly perfect’ people because complete perfection is only for Allah. Muslims believe that the Quran, indeed the entire religion, reached us unaltered because of the ‘near perfection’ of those men. Any blemishes on their integrity would cast serious doubts about the integrity of Islam. Unfortunately, the events of the war expose some barbaric conducts that only fit criminals. Therefore it is better not to know about it!

Just before jumping to early conclusions the reader can be assured that the Sunni foolishness and religious absurdities is more than matched by the Shia, but this is outside the scope of this article.

The 1980s- the Shia extremism

The Iranians had high expectations after the 1979 Islamic revolution but soon they were disappointed. In the turmoil that followed the revolution, the Mullahs had no idea how to steer the country and Iran was shifting from one conflict to another, usually with the West. In the 1980s, the Shia had a bad image in the West and were associated with extremism and religious fanaticism while the Sunnis were considered to be more moderate. Blinded by their inherent bias, It did not occur to the Westerners that the Sunnis were also engaged in another religious war against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan. That religious war was considered permissible and justified as long as it was against the Soviet Union! After 1979, America sided against Iran in all subsequent conflicts like the Iraq /Iran war. On the other hand it created a strong alliance with fanatic Sunnis like Osama Bin Laden. The Sunni fighters were called Mujahideen (from jihad), a word that will cost the West dearly in later years.

The Mulla’s regime may not have changed since the Islamic revolution but the Iranian people have changed.  Iran is a radical state, but its radicalism is associated with its ruling regime; if the regime goes, the radicalism also goes. The Iranians learned the hard way, after 40 years of the Mullas rule, that radical Islam is not the way forward.

This is not the case in Sunni countries like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somalia and .. to the end of the list. These countries are radical to the core; if the governments go, more radical regimes may emerge.

The situation in Iran is the exact opposite to the situation in the Arab world. Until the ‘Arab spring’, the Arabs were largely radical people ruled by relatively secular governments. Iran, on the other hand, is largely a secular nation that is ruled by a radical government. The Arab nations, like in Egypt, forced their governments to pursue more religious policies. On the other hand, the Iranian Islamic government failed to completely radicalize its people.

Iran and America; the war of the fools

Iran seems to be in a collision course with the America and Israel. The prospect of such unnecessary but fearsome war is a nightmare, not only to those directly involved, but to the entire Middle East. Sadly, it is the Iranian people who would be the main casualty if such a war breaks out.

The Mullas in Iran are more fools than radicals. Their fierce antagonism to Israel is completely unnecessary. Israel doesn’t pose any threat to Iran. Geographically, Iran is too far from Israel and it doesn’t make sense to think that Israel would consider attacking Iran, unless threatened. Israel is not short of enemies and is not interested in making new ones.

It is the Mullas who threatened to wipe off Israel from the map. But Israel is not an easy target to destroy; attacking Israel means destroying Iran. Even if Iran can destroy Israel it doesn’t gain anything from it other than getting destroyed itself.

Iran wouldn’t gain anything from destroying Israel. The Palestinians and the Arabs wouldn’t even say thank you to the Iranians because of their hatred towards the Shia. In the 1980s, it was the Arabs, not Israel, who rallied to destroy Iran during the Iraq/Iran war which claimed a million lives. The Arabs never rallied with such enthusiasm even against Israel. A conflict with Israel, if ever necessary, is a Palestinian concern; even the Arab countries are trying to distance themselves from the Israel/ Palestinian conflict. Other than foolishness, why should Iran fight somebody else’s  war?

Iran, which is the largest country with Shia majority, could have used its influence to boost the position of other oppressed Shia communities, in particular the Arab Shia. The Shia in the Arab world are politically oppressed and often denied their political rights. They never had a fair deal even in countries where they are the majority like Iraq, Lebanon and Bahrain. The Sunnis have been taking most of the key positions for decades. The oil fields of the Gulf actually exist in Shia areas. In theory they should be the richest people on earth. All the oil of Saudi Arabia comes from the eastern province, where the Shia live in some of the least developed cities in the country. The Shia in Saudi Arabia are treated as third class citizens and not allowed to take key positions in the government or the army. Iran’s real enemy is Saudi Arabia, not Israel.

The American’s foolishness more than matches that of the Mullas in Iran. The Obama administration failed to offer any serious support to the Iranians’ revolution a couple of years ago. That ‘Iranian spring’ would have made all the difference in the current dilemma of how to deal with a ‘nuclear Iran’. The Americans’ feeble stand regarding the ‘Iranian spring’ contrasts sharply with the firm and unequivocal support they demonstrated towards the ‘Arab spring‘, which was set to replace the existing, relatively secular regimes, with radical ones.

In their ill-considered support to the Arab spring, the Americans made two ill-considered exceptions. The first one was the failure to provide any form of support to the uprising of the oppressed Shia population in the Eastern province of Saudi Arabia. The second is the failure to support the oppressed Shia in Bahrain. Regime change in the eastern region of Saudi Arabia, where all the oil comes from, would make remarkable difference to world peace.

For some mysterious reasons, America cannot come to terms with the fact that Saudi Arabia is the root of all evil in the Middle East, if not the world. Directly or indirectly, that desert Kingdom is the power source behind all the radical organizations around the world. Thanks to the American silence and its appeasing policy, Saudi Arabia has succeeded in the radicalization of Muslims not only in the Arab world but also all over the world.

The Sunni extremism

America was the main strategic ally to the Mujahideen in Afghanistan. The war against the Soviet Union and the idea of setting up the Mujahideen and the propaganda campaign that followed were all for American desires. However, the honey moon between America and the Sunni radicals didn’t last long; in the 1990s the Sunnis turned against their previous allies with vengeance.

The ball of the Sunni radicalization started rolling in the 1970s, well before the Iranian revolution. I am afraid that sinister ball was created by American desire and was kept rolling also by American desire. That ball of radicalization is still rolling fast; the Sunni Muslims are getting more radicalized by the day.

The idea of this article is not to defend one sect of Islam or the other because they are all vicious. However, in our time it is the Sunni sect that tends to be more vile and violent, probably because they are the majority. It is well known that Muslims behave well when they are a minority. The Sunnis are arrogant because they feel the strength, while their Wahhabi indoctrination makes them least tolerant. They do not accept the other sects of Islam and have no tolerance to any practices except their own. The ultimate Sunni Islam is represented by Wahhabism, which is being embraced by an increasing number of Muslims everyday. In parallel with this trend there is  an increasing number of Sunnis who started to hate the other sects of Islam in a similar way they hate the Jews and refer to them as infidels and make no secret of it. They consider other Islamic sects as the Jews from within who are set to destroy all the principles of Islam one by one.

Saudi Arabia dominates dozens of countries that constitute the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) which is the largest voting block in the United Nations. Add to this its special relations with America and you get a backward country that has become a world power to be reckoned with.

The Americans may succeed in one way or the other in preventing a nuclear Iran, but they already failed in preventing a nuclear Pakistan. Although a non Arab country, Pakistan can be considered as the military wing of Saudi Arabia. The country survives on Saudi money and it was Saudi money which financed its nuclear program while America looked the other way. It is inconceivable  that America still provides Pakistan with generous financial help and classifies the country as an ally.

Like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan is a country that is radicalized to the core. In both countries there are radical Islamic governments that are just not radical enough in the eyes of the people.

I am afraid that while the world is focusing on Iran, the real threat may lie further to the East, in Pakistan. I am afraid it is only a matter of time when Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal falls in the hands of terrorists.

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Mumin Salih is of a Sunni Arab Background from Syria

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60 Comments for “Sunni or Shia? Which Poses A Greater Threat?”

  1. Sunni/Shia, Tomato/Tomahto. They're both a threat

  2. I probably see Sunni as a greater threat only because they are so much bigger….but both are indeed quite dangerous!

  3. sunni, they stab you in the back while smiling at you

  4. Sunni and Shia are the right and left hands of Islam. So, they are all evil.

  5. some non-muslims ask which sect (sunni or shia) is good ? but the question should be like this which sect is more worse?

  6. The author has hit the nail on the head. The greatest fool was Mr. Reagan who armed all the jihadis to the teeth in the name of fighting Soviet union .But for that idiot, the whole world would not have been in such bad shape as it is now!
    We are still paying for that great idiot's havoc!

    • unfortunately, for a US president, being an idiot is NOT a crime.

    • From my understanding, the Russians were trying to take over Afghanistan. Both countries were already at war. Because of the ongoing Cold War at that time, the U.S. took advantage of it and allied itself with the Afghans.

      What makes you conclude that the world would be a better place today if the Russians succeeded in Afghanistan? Afghanistan desperately needed outside help to push back the Russians.

  7. It is written in Holy Book “Understanding Muhammad”. The author (apostle of mankind) said that anything which has to do with Islam is no good.

  8. The original skunk the rapist rasool shot out the gunk from his rear end and called it qrand.The stink raised by this skunk's gunk is persisting in many forms even today and the two major forms of the crap are shia and sunni.They both stink the same.Top or bottom of the bucket of sh1t, makes no difference,they both are the same skunk's sh1t, shot out 1400 years ago.

  9. More Sunnis have been killed by Shias than any non-muslim group.Which means Shias are the greatest threat to Sunnis existence.
    More Shias have been killed by Sunnis than any non-muslim group.This means that Sunnis are the greatest threat to Shias & the reason why many have left Islam.

    • "More Sunnis have been killed by Shias than any non-muslim group"

      THAT THE NEW STORY ,BROTHER WHERE R U GOT IT?

      THE TRUTH EVIDENCE ,CHRISTIAN(CAPITALIST,COMMUNIST,NAZI) KILLED (CAPITALIST,COMMUNIST,NAZI ,JEW AND MUSLIM )

      IS THE GREATEST (ALL THE AUTHORIZED EVIDENCE,ITS GUINNESS RECORD TOO)

      GR1 GR2

      Military dead:
      Over 16,000,000 + Over 8,000,000

      Civilian dead:
      Over 45,000,000 + Over 4,000,000

      Total dead:
      Over 61,000,000 + Over 12,000,000
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II

      • You are babbling off topic again.

      • Thats why we are urging you people to leave islam because it's not good ideology ……

        Like Ones German like Nazism but it was bad ideology so it destroy not only other country but also

        Germany itself so they are now out of that bad ideology same way other ideology colonising and other has not going from world .
        Come on and be human being first then We will solve all the problem of mankind .

        Mullah are thinking that if whole world will convert to islam then problem will be solved but it is just a joke
        to mankind problem of mankind can only solved when we will human being only not belong to any other
        religion not country and no cast only human being …………………….

        Welcome to New world of human being …………………

      • Shabeer, did you actually READ what El P wrote?
        His point was that Muslims, or either sect, today kill more Muslims than they do non-Muslims.
        This fact is the main reason why support for Al-qaeda is falling in many Muslim Countries – they know THEY are more at risk from AQ than the "Kaffirs"!

        As for your 'fact':
        Islam is recorded as killing over 270 million in total, roughly 4x the numbers you give above.
        You second error is to equate Xtian with Communist.
        Communists are atheists by definition.
        Your third is to equate Nazis with Xtians . That's actually pretty offensive btw and it would be just as accurate to equate Nazism with Islam. The point is that people of all persuasions fought on both sides – which would be a logical definition of a non-religious war.
        That's quite a record, Shabeer, three errors in as many sentences!

  10. Let's hope they keep each other busy.

  11. It doesn't matter which is worse because both the Goonies and the Sh!t!tes are committing SHIRK because they put faith in mohamhead and the Krap on par with faith in God. They are Shirking b*stars and always have been.

    Plus, they both commit BLASPHEMY because they put LIMITS on the Omnipotent God by saying that He is unable to so much as take on human form in accordance with His Divine Will.

    Truly they are the Worst of People for their SHIRK and their BLASPHEMY and God will roast their a$$es in hell for this.

    When their skins are all fried, Allah will restore them a rosy new skin with the rawest of nerves to taste the sweet punishment all over. They will have much puss and sweat to drink, and if they don't like it Allah will pour it down their throats for them.

  12. I never heard of a shia planned terrorist attack in India. I think by and large Shias, Sufis and the Ahmediya Muslims are peaceful. I never saw them creating problems. Only Sunnis/Wahabis are the real terrorists

  13. The stupidest thing I ever heard was a Muslim woman explaining what a "scientific miracle" it is that Allah will give his victims new skins to burn. It,s a miracle because no one back then could know that the skin had the most nerves so replacing it would cause the finest, most sweet and exquisite torture. Praise Allah!! What a bloody ignorant stupid b!tch.

    • no wonder the rapist rasoo l thought that the women have half the brains and are unintelligent like a donkey! Muslimahs who are ugly love the burkha and moslimahs who can not think love pisslam

  14. Here are some stastics for YOU to chew on shablear:

    the activities of Muslims such as Naser Abdo, the would-be second Fort Hood jihad mass murderer; and Khalid Aldawsari, the would-be jihad mass murderer in Lubbock, Texas; and Muhammad Hussain, the would-be jihad bomber in Baltimore; and Mohamed Mohamud, the would-be jihad bomber in Portland; and Faisal Shahzad, the would-be Times Square jihad mass-murderer; and Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, the Arkansas military recruiting station jihad murderer; and Naveed Haq, the jihad mass murderer at the Jewish Community Center in Seattle; and Mohammed Reza Taheri-Azar, the would-be jihad mass murderer in Chapel Hill, North Carolina; Ahmed Ferhani and Mohamed Mamdouh, who hatched a jihad plot to blow up a Manhattan synagogue; and Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the would-be Christmas airplane jihad bomber; and many others like them who have plotted and/or committed mass murder in the name of Islam and motivated by its texts and teachings — all in the U.S. in the last couple of years.

    • Incontrovertibly danming Islam. But the opologists will still, shamelessly, have something to say to defend the indefensible.

    • 1- Jihad in the Bible:

      Christians often refer to Islam as a terrorist religion, and they abuse the Arabic word "Jihad" and portray it as a reference to terrorism. We must not forget that JIHAD began in the Bible, where GOD Almighty Commanded His followers to fight for His Holy Cause. Let us look at what the Bible says about Jihad:

      GOD Almighty Chose the land of Palestine to be the Jews' "Promise Land", and thus, ordered them to go into it and fight the pagans there so they can have possession over it:

      Numbers 13:26-28
      26 They came back to Moses and Aaron and the whole Israelite community at Kadesh in the Desert of Paran. There they reported to them and to the whole assembly and showed them the fruit of the land.
      27 They gave Moses this account: "We went into the land to which you sent us, and it does flow with milk and honey! Here is its fruit.
      28 But the people who live there are powerful, and the cities are fortified and very large. We even saw descendants of Anak there.

      One simple Question: Did the disbelievers in the land of Palestine during the times of Moses start any war with the Hebrews who ORIGINALLY came from Egypt?? Absolutely Not!

      Later on, the Hebrews or the "Israelites" or the "Jews" (call them as you wish) have committed Pedophilia, Murders and Terrorism against those disbelievers:

      "Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man. (Numbers 31:17-18)"

      Now what crime did the innocent children and non-virgin women commit in order for them to get killed?

      It's odd how one of the 10 Commandments says "Thou shalt not kill (or murder). (Exodus 20:13)", and yet, the bible ordered the killing of innocent children and non-virgin girls by the mass!

      Also, according to the Talmud's historical elaborations on Numbers 31:17-18 above, Moses gave direct orders for his men to have SEXUAL INTERCOURSE with every VIRGIN GIRLS who was AT LEAST 3 YEARS OLD:

      "….The Tannaïtic Midrash Sifre to Numbers in §157 comments on the above quoted commandment of MOSES to kill the Midianite women as well as the male children…."

      "….According to the Tannaïte Rabbis, MOSES therefore had ordered the Israelites to kill all women older than three years and a day, because they were "suitable for having sexual relations." [138]…."

      "Said Rabbi Joseph, "Come and take note: A girl three years and one day old is betrothed by intercourse….."

      "A girl three years and one day old is betrothed by intercourse. "A girl three years old may be betrothed through an act of sexual intercourse," the words of R. Meir. And sages say, "Three years and one day old."….."

  15. Shabeer and HAHAHA, so even if the whole World is to become Muslims today, killing and bloodiness would be even worse between Sunnis and Shias … … hahaha … hahaha … hahaha … hahaha … hahaha … hahaha … hahaha … hahaha … hahaha … hahaha … haaaaa … haaaaaaaaa … haaaaaa. hoooooooiiyoiyoiyii … huuyoyi … … huuyoi my back … …

      • Shabeer, I am not a hypocrite, I may drink if I want to. Drinking is nothing compared to the immoral things Islamic divinity prescribe and practice.

        • drinking in moderation is far better than molesting and raping a child, killing, rioting, beating the wife etc, even if in moderation.Got that moslem cretin? Oh sorry you are a moslem which means you are idiotic,imbecile,retarded,moronic, brain dead zombie, blind follower of child rapist mohammad.Pus,piss,puke and putrid pork be upon you,mohammad and allah

  16. Incontrovertibly danming Islam.

  17. Looking at this situation, that has been conflicts with each other in the past but if we come to think of it there goal is to get rid of people who are not in Islam, so it is both.

    Also in Algeria there has been found missiles from Libya, for the full article it here:
    http://www.maghrebchristians.com/2012/02/21/missi…

    Blessings

    Youssef

  18. @Ukumo….I haven’t seen posts from ‘Mr. HAHAHA’ as you called him yesterday, I had a good laugh yesterday from your post. As for Shia on Sunni violence, that’ the Alien vs Predator brawl, may the best beast win.

  19. Totally agreed with the author!
    I have met many Iranians in chat rooms and in real life, and they don't give 2 hoots to the religion. On the contrary muslims i have met from Arab or other sunni sect, seems to carry some anger brimming within them to be burst out.
    Its Iranian Govt and idiots from west, nowdays called "useful idiots" who are real threat.

  20. As both Sunni Islam and Shiite Islam hold Quran which promotes terrorism, racism, stupidity and barbariety, as their scripture, these two major sects of Islam are two sides of the same coin. Sunni Islam appears to be more dangerous and terrific and pose greater threat than Shiite Islam just because Sunnis who are the majority Muslims worldover, are actively engaged in Jihad emboldened by their number strength. Their collections of Hadiths and Sira of Muhammad are more authentic, more barbaric in nature and more evil to the core than the ones of Shias which are sheer fabrications of their early Imams. This is also another reason for Sunnis engaging in more barbaric and terrorist activities than the Shias.

    • @HINDUS

      FIRST U SOLVE THE PROBLEM WITH SHIVA,VISHNAVA,HUMAN GOD,JAINA,BUDHA,RAJANISH,SAIBABA,LIKE 33 CORE KIND OF HINDUISM,THEN COME TO HERE TO DISCUSS THE SHIA AND SUNNI

      @CHRISTIAN

      PEOPLE U GO TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM WITH CATHOLIC,PROTESTANT,ORTHODOX,BAPHISTIAN,MORMONE,SYRIAN,LIKE 1 CORE KINDS OF CHRISTIANITY,THEN COME TO HERE TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM BETWEEN SHIA AND SUNNI

      • There is nothing to solve shabeer. What has your monotheism done for you? Nothing. It has made you intolerant towards everyone else. It is hindu tolerance that has enabled you to thrive in india…

      • shabeer
        hindus and christians have their own's choice to worship in any many form , they dont impose yheir belief on others like ur muslims cultists ,you muslims are only crazy of one god , whta only god god religion religion , and no issue how many muslims have seen the allah , your sunni and shias cuts each throats by claiming their sects are true.
        what your allah has given to the muzzies country poverty , harshness, bloodshedding and nothing , only running his brothel full of prostitutes

        • THE MESSAGE OF ISLAM

          Since the total submission of one’s will to God represents the essence of worship, the basic message of God’s divine religion, Islam is the worship of God alone and the avoidance of worship directed to any person, place or thing other than God. Since everything other than God, the Creator of all things, is God’s creation; it may be said that Islam, in essence calls man away from the worship of creation and invites him to worship only its Creator. He is the only one deserving man’s worship as it is only by His will that prayers are answered. If man prays to a tree and his prayers are answered, it was not the tree which answered his prayers but Almighty God who allowed the circumstances prayed for to take place. One might say: “That is obvious”, however, to tree-worshippers it might not be. Similarly, prayers to Jesus, Buddha, or Krishna, to Saint Christopher, or Saint Jude or even to Muhammad, are not answered by them but are answered by God. Jesus did not tell his followers to worship him, but to worship God. As the Qur’aan states:
          “And behold God will say: “O Jesus the son of Mary, did you say to men: ‘Take me and my mother as two objects of worship along with God’? He will say: “Glory to you I could never say what I had no right (to say’)”
          (Qur’aan, Chapter 5 — “The Table Spread”, Verse 116)

          Nor did he worship himself when he worshipped but rather he worshipped God. This basic principle is enshrined in the opening chapter of the Qur’aan, known as Soorah Al-Faatihah, verse 4:
          “You alone do we worship and from you alone do we seek help.”

          Elsewhere, in the final book of revelation, the Qur’aan, God also said:
          “And your Lord says: “Call on Me and I will answer your (prayer).”
          (Qur’aan, Chapter 40 — “The Believer”, Verse 60)

          It is worth noting that the basic message of Islam is that God and His creation are distinctly different entities. Neither is Almighty God His creation or a part of it, nor is His creation Him or a part of Him. This might seem obvious, but, man’s worship of creation instead of the Creator is to a large degree based on ignorance of this concept. It is the belief that the essence of God is everywhere in His creation or that His divine being is or was present in some aspects of His creation, which has provided justification for the worship of creation though such worship may be called the worship of God through his creation. How ever, the message of Islam as brought by the prophets of God is to worship only God and to avoid the worship of his creation either directly or indirectly. In the Qur’aan, Almighty God clearly states:
          “For We assuredly sent amongst every people a prophet,(with the command)worship me and avoid false gods”
          (Qur’aan, Chapter 16 — “The Bee”, Verse 36)

          When the idol worshipper is questioned as to why he or she bows down to idols created by men, the invariable reply is that they are not actually worshipping the stone image, but God who is present within it. They claim that the stone idol is only a focal point for God’s essence and is not in itself God! One who has accepted the concept of the presence of God’s being within His creation in any way will be obliged to accept this argument of idolatry. Whereas, one who understands the basic message of Islam and its implications would never concede to idolatry no matter how it is rationalized.

      • FIRST U SOLVE THE PROBLEM WITH …………………….

        Sabbu, Kindly xxxplain what the problem is ? I really can't understand.

  21. As the author rightly pointed out, the fact, among many other weird Islamic beliefs, that Sunni Islam puts both Ali and his rebels and fierce enemies including Mu'awiya, Aisha on an eqaul footing and considers both fighting groups as reliable good Muslims of early Islam, baffled me when I was a Muslim for a short period.

  22. The evil bucket of islam is filled with sh1t to the brim.the bottom of the pile of sh1t contains shia sh1t and at the top is the sunni sh1t and in the middle is the sh1t belonging to the various sects of pisslam.Does it matter at all? They all are sh1t from the same pisslamic bucket.

  23. In whatever name you call islam is evil.

  24. Islam and muslims can never live in peace. They are cursed. Shia and sunnis are one when they fight kafira. God forbid if they wipe out all kafirs from the face of this earth they will then turn against each other. They are cursed to live in perpetual conflict.

  25. After the passing of Muhammad Bin Abdullah to hell, two embryonic cultic factions (sects) violently struggled for succession and rule of Islam and the Muslims:

    SUNNI – The in-laws of Muhammad – Abu Bakr, Aisha, Umar ibn Al Khattab and Uthman.

    Versus-

    SHIA – The direct relatives (family) of Muhammad – Ali ibn Taliban (cousin), Fatimah (daughter), Hasan ibn Ali (grandson) and Hussein ibn Ali (grandson).

    Converted second class follower Muslims and Muslimah like Indonesians, Malaysians, Indians, Africans, Pakistanis and even Americans and Canadians are not the greatest threat because whether Sunni or Shia or other they do not control the pagan sites worshiped by Islam. They are merely followers and have no input to the tenets of Islam and are expected to do as they are told.

    The greater threat is the Muslims (Sunni hiding behind Wahab) that rule Mecca and Yathrib (Medina). These guardians (Sunni hiding behind Wahab) have custodianship of the Islam's pagan Kaaba, Black rock idol, Marwa and Safa idols and therefore have practical control of Islam..

    The greatest threat is Islam!

  26. As Salaam Alaykum, Shabeer

    Shabeer, what you are reading is my opinion that I express with the "freedom of opinion, religion and speech" that secular Democracy grants us all. There is no compulsion in opinion or speech or religion in a secular Democracy.

    We abandoned the "Religion of Beast (Islam)" that denies it is worshiping pagan idols. We have a universal right to have left such as that (Islam). We also have a right to speak as we please. That does not say we are fountains of truth that must be obeyed or else. We let reason; logic, sense, the good will and higher spirit of humanity decide for themselves which path they will to follow.

    It is Islam (subjugation) that is bound to slavery (Abdullah) that compels obedience and restricts the self to bonded senseless servitude to a non verifiable Arab deity and its scavenged pagan rituals.

    So Shabeer, Sunni or Shia Which Poses A Greater Threat???

  27. ISLAM is a unit, a fundamental unit, can never be divided into sects. SAY no Shiya, no Sunni, WE ARE MUSLIMS AND WE ARE PROUD TO BE MUSLIM. We Love ALLAH, We love MUHAMMAD (pbuh), and we love ADAM, EVE, MOSSESS, JESUS….all the messengers (Peace be upon them).. ZAJAKALLA KHAIR.

    • you don't know anything about those prophets because the bible has been corruptrd by the Jews. How can you love them when you don't know the first thing about them?

  28. As Salaam Alaykum, Safi. Jazakallah Khair – May Allah grant you goodness.

    Let the second class Indian converted followers and those not Arab Muslim say in the face of the Sauds, the owners and Kaaba (Idol house) and Aswad rock (BlackI dol), that the Arabs are not the chosen. Equality for all is no where found in Islam or Quran.

    Arabs are the most noble people in lineage, the most prominent, and the best in deeds. We were the first to respond to the call of the Prophet. We are Allah’s helpers and the viziers of His Messenger. We fight people until they believe in Allah. He who believes in Allah and His Messenger has protected his life and possessions from us. As for one who disbelieves, we will fight him forever in Allah’s Cause. Killing him is a small matter to us. – Al-Tabari, Vol. 9, p. 69

    Arabs are the chosen, Thank you A Kafir

  29. The human excreta of muslims from the indian sub continent will be treated at par with kafirs by the sodis.The arabs treat these garbage as what they are.GARBAGE. Hahahahahaha I am lovin it Pus,piss,puke and putrid pork be upon allah, mohammad and moslem scum bags

  30. belief in prophet is the essance of religion,god decided he was the prophet,and he was an ideal man,we follow the prophet,that means we follow the god rules.

    actually we r human being,that way we required an ideal human for follwing the god rule,how to he practicability the quranic law,human need it.

    • why is FAITH in Mohammed REQUIRED for salvation?

      Because he is an idol and you worship him.

      Why is insulting him, or criticizing any of his actions BLASPHMEY if indeed he I'd a mere man?

      Because you make him into an object of WORSHIP.

      You are obsessed with him, you talk about him, you fight for him EVEN MORE than Allah. And the same goes for the korap.

      You Muslims are BLASPHEMERS and you are going to roast for it.

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