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A tale of two Countries

11th July 2012

The Netherlands to abandon multi-culturalism

(Source The European Union Times.)

The Dutch government says it will abandon the long-standing model of multiculturalism that has encouraged Muslim immigrants to create a parallel society within the Netherlands.

A new integration bill (covering letter and 15-page action plan), which Dutch Interior Minister Piet Hein Donner presented to parliament on June 16, reads: “The government shares the social dissatisfaction over the multicultural society model and plans to shift priority to the values of the Dutch people. In the new integration system, the values of the Dutch society play a central role. With this change, the government steps away from the model of a multicultural society.”

The letter continues: “A more obligatory integration is justified because the government also demands that from its own citizens. It is necessary because otherwise the society gradually grows apart and eventually no one feels at home anymore in the Netherlands. The integration will not be tailored to different groups.”

The new integration policy will place more demands on immigrants. For example, immigrants will be required to learn the Dutch language, and the government will take a tougher approach to immigrants to ignore Dutch values or disobey Dutch law.

The government will also stop offering special subsidies for Muslim immigrants because, according to Donner, “it is not the government’s job to integrate immigrants.” The government will introduce new legislation that outlaws forced marriages and will also impose tougher measures against Muslim immigrants who lower their chances of employment by the way they dress. More specifically, the government will impose a ban on face-covering Islamic burqas as of January 1, 2013.

If necessary, the government will introduce extra measures to allow the removal of residence permits from immigrants who fail their integration course.

The measures are being imposed by the new center-right government of Conservatives (VVD) and Christian Democrats (CDA), with parliamentary support from the anti-Islam Freedom Party (PVV), whose leader, Geert Wilders, is currently on trial in Amsterdam for “inciting hatred” against Muslims.

As expected, Muslim organizations in Holland have been quick to criticize the proposals. The Moroccan-Dutch organization Samenwerkingsverband van Marokkaanse Nederlanders, which advises the government on integration matters, argues that Muslim immigrants need extra support to find a job. The umbrella Muslim group Contactorgaan Moslims en Overheid says that although it agrees that immigrants should be better integrated into Dutch society, it is opposed to a ban on burqas.

But polls show that a majority of Dutch voters support the government’s skepticism about multiculturalism. According to a Maurice de Hond poll published by the center-right newspaper Trouw on June 19, 74 percent of Dutch voters say immigrants should conform to Dutch values. Moreover, 83 percent of those polled support a ban on burqas in public spaces.

The proper integration of the more than one million Muslims now living in Holland has been a major political issue ever since 2002, when Dutch politician Pim Fortuyn was assassinated for his views on Muslim immigration, and since 2004, when Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh was stabbed to death for producing a movie that criticized Islam.

Muslim immigration to the Netherlands can be traced back to the 1960s and 1970s, when a blue collar labor shortage prompted the Dutch government to conclude recruitment agreements with countries like Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia and Turkey. In the 1980s and 1990s, Muslims also arrived in the Netherlands as asylum seekers and refugees, mainly from Afghanistan, Bosnia, Iran, Iraq, Pakistan and Somalia.

There are now an estimated 1.2 million Muslims in the Netherlands, which is equivalent to about 6 percent of the country’s overall population. Moroccans and Turks comprise nearly two-thirds of all Muslims in the Netherlands. Most Muslims live in the four major cities of the country: Amsterdam, Rotterdam, The Hague and Utrecht.

As their numbers grow, Muslim immigrants have become increasingly more assertive in carving out a role for Islam within Dutch society. For example, a documentary aired by the television program Netwerk in June 2009 reported that Dutch law was being systematically undermined by the growth of Sharia justice in the Netherlands.

In December 2004, the Dutch Ministry of the Interior published a 60-page report titled From Dawa to Jihad. Prepared by the Dutch intelligence agency AIVD, the report says that the Netherlands is home to up to 50,000 radical Muslims whose key ideological aim is to target the Western way of life and to confront Western political, economic, and cultural domination.

The report concludes that Dutch society is poorly equipped to resist the threat of radical Islam because of “a culture of permissiveness” that has become synonymous with “closing one’s eyes” to multiple transgressions of the law.

As for Interior Minister Donner, he has undergone a late-in-life conversion on the issue of Muslim immigration. In September 2006, while serving as justice minister, Donner provoked an outcry after saying that he welcomed the introduction of Islamic Sharia law in the Netherlands if the majority wants it. He also said Holland should give Muslims more freedoms to behave according to their traditions.

After applauding Queen Beatrix for respecting Islam by not insisting that a Muslim leader shake hands with her during a visit to the Mobarak Mosque in The Hague, Donner said: “A tone that I do not like has crept into the political debate on integration. A tone of: ‘Thou shalt assimilate. Thou shalt adopt our values in public. Be reasonable, do it our way.’ That is not my approach.”

Fast forward to 2011 and Donner now says his government “will distance itself from the relativism contained in the model of a multicultural society.” Although society changes, he says, it must not be “interchangeable with any other form of society.”

Egypt embraces lunacy

(Source: RaymondIbrahim.com)

According to several reports in the Arabic media, prominent Muslim clerics have begun to call for the demolition of Egypt’s Great Pyramids—or, in the words of Saudi Sheikh Ali bin Said al-Rabi’i, those “symbols of paganism,” which Egypt’s Salafi party has long planned to cover with wax. Most recently, Bahrain’s “Sheikh of Sunni Sheikhs” and President of National Unity, Abd al-Latif al-Mahmoud, called on Egypt’s new president, Muhammad Morsi, to “destroy the Pyramids and accomplish what Amr bin al-As could not.”

Has the sun finally set for Egypt’s Great Pyramids?

This is a reference to the Muslim Prophet Muhammad’s companion, Amr bin al-As and his Arabian tribesmen, who invaded and conquered Egypt circa 641. Under al-As and subsequent Muslim rule, many Egyptian antiquities were destroyed as relics of infidelity. While most Western academics argue otherwise, according to early Muslim writers, the great Library of Alexandria itself—deemed a repository of pagan knowledge contradicting the Koran—was destroyed under bin al-As’s reign and in compliance with Caliph Omar’s command.

However, while book-burning was a simple process in the 7th century, destroying the mountain-like pyramids and their guardian Sphinx was not—even though many early Muslim leaders certainly tried; by the time gunfire was invented, Egypt’s Medieval Mamluk rulers even managed to “de-nose” the Sphinx during target practice (though popular legend naturally attributes it to a Westerner, Napoleon).

Now, however, as Bahrain’s “Sheikh of Sheikhs” observes, and thanks to modern technology, the pyramids can be destroyed. The only question left is whether Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood president is “pious” enough—if he is willing to complete the Islamization process that started under the hands of Egypt’s first Islamic conqueror.

Nor is such a course of action implausible. History is laden with examples of Muslims destroying their own pre-Islamic heritage—starting with Muhammad himself, who ransacked Arabia’s Ka’ba temple, transforming it into a mosque.

Asking “What is it about Islam that so often turns its adherents against their own patrimony?” Daniel Pipes provides several examples, from Medieval Muslims in India destroying their forefathers’ temples, to contemporary Muslims destroying their ancestors’ heritage in Egypt, Iraq, Israel, Malaysia, and Tunisia. Currently, in what the International Criminal Court is describing as a possible “war crime,” Islamic fanatics are destroying the ancient legacy of the city of Timbuktu in Mali—all to Islam’s triumphant war cry, “Allahu Akbar!”

Much of this hate for their own pre-Islamic heritage is tied to the fact that, traditionally, Muslims do not identify with this or that nation, culture, or language, but only with the Islamic nation—the Umma. Accordingly, while many Egyptians—Muslims and non-Muslims alike—see themselves first and foremost as Egyptians, Islamists have no national identity, identifying only with Islam’s “culture,” based on the “sunna” of the prophet and Islam’s language, Arabic. This sentiment was clearly reflected when the former leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, Muhammad Akef, recently declared “the hell with Egypt,” indicating that the interests of his country are secondary to Islam’s.

It is further telling that such calls are being made now—immediately after a Muslim Brotherhood member became Egypt’s president. In fact, the same reports discussing the call to demolish the last of the Seven Wonders of the Word, also note that Egyptian Salafis are calling on Morsi to banish all Shias and Baha’is from Egypt.

In other words, Morsi’s recent call to release the Blind Sheikh, a terrorist mastermind, from U.S. imprisonment, may be the tip of the iceberg in coming audacity. From calls to legalize Islamic sex-slave marriage to calls to institute “morality police” to calls to destroy Egypt’s mountain-like monuments, under Muslim Brotherhood tutelage, the bottle has been uncorked, and the genie unleashed in Egypt.

Will all those international institutions, which make it a point to look the other way whenever human rights abuses are committed by Muslims, lest they appear “Islamophobic,” at least take note now that the Great Pyramids appear to be next on Islam’s hit list, or will the fact that Muslims are involved silence them once again—even as those most ancient symbols of human civilization are pummeled to the ground?

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92 Comments for “A tale of two Countries”

  1. SONGADH LION

    Thank the Lord the dutch politicians have at last woken up from their slumber. All of Europe and the West should follow suit. The earlier the better for humanity. LONG LIVE GEERT WILDERS LONG LIVE ALI SINA

    • shabeer

      COWARDS,DARE TO FIGHT WITH FACE TO FACE WITH US FROM SCRIPTURE ,NOT BANNING IMMIGRANTS……………..

      • taqiyyadIndian

        Shabber pls remember that u stand banned in ur own homeland. Unaccepted & social pariah that is what u r.

      • Hey shabeer what kinds of weapons you have stored in your house and local mosque to kill the infidels? You Muslim if you are not coward go and have a face to face debate with peoples like Ali Sina,and other such scholars.

      • fakeman

        shabeer u should remember about
        salman taseer ,shahbaz bhatti and van gough how they were silenced by the peaceful members of islamislam is intolerant arrived bedouin violence

      • Deca

        Stupid man .We do nothing else here!! We gave you many things from your own unholy kooks. But you don't react. We all see that .

      • Julia

        …..FIGHT WITH FACE TO FACE WITH US FROM SCRIPTURE…..?
        How stupid do want to have it?

  2. Mohammad the prophet

    The above is a comparison between a Moderate Muslim & Muhammad. There are 21 points I have put that an average Muslim is far better than Muhammad. The space between the points was gone after posting. Hope you can read correctly.

  3. Mohammad the prophet

    Dear Muslim Brothers & Sisters. I just wanted to say that I have great sympathy for you; b'cos I know that you are a victim of this religion Islam. Islam has hijacked your freedom, your free will to think, your freedom to take even small decisions. It is like another cultist regime of North Korea, but it is not limited to one country, It has spread all over the world. Muslims have a false sense of pride on its "Great Leader" Muhammed, An average muslim is 100 times better than prophet Muhammed.

    01. Muhammad depended on Loot & Booty.
    02. Muhammad only promoted turmoil & wars.
    03. Muhammad had a family where all his wives were fighting among themselves.
    04. Muhammad had 9 wives + 2 Concubines & also married his son (Zaid's) wife.
    05. Muhammad was a Lecherous man, rapist, sold & purchased women slaves.
    06. Muhammad was a paedeophile (married Aisha at the age of 6 yrs).
    07. Muhammad broke all the rules of Quran.
    08. Muhammad had no fear of GOD. Allah was his puppet.
    09. Muhammad was a filthy man of unclean habits (special liking for urine, spit, semen) etc.
    10. Muhammad was insane, mentally retarted & epileptic.
    11. Muhammad used to curse & use fowl language for other humans.
    12. Muhammad was egoistic, Narcisst & a self declared prophet.
    13. Muhammad was a Murderer & ordered assassinations.
    14. Muhammad promoted Zina (having sex without getting married).
    15. Muhammad promoted Muta (temporary marriages or legalized prostitution)
    16. Muhammad was a superstitious man.
    17. Muhammad was a mafia Don he collected 20% share on evry loot.
    18. Muhammad He had weird sexual habits, orgy, crossdressing, homosexual tendencies.
    19. Muhammad was a liar & a cheat.
    20. Muhammad never practised what he preached.
    21. Muhammad used to beat, torture & spied on his wives.
    22. Muhammad had inferiority complex & mistrust. He never liked visitors at his home.
    23. Muhammad had begotten children without Marriage (Ibrahim).

    I know a Moderate muslim does not do the above things. Dear brothers & sisters I know you are far better in character than Muhammad. Do you still want to follow him? for what?

    If any of you has any doubt regarding the above charges on Muhammad please ask, I will definitely give reference from Hadith & Quran.

  4. BALANCED UNDERSTANDING OF ISLAM;

    A reply to those who promote understanding of Islam. By Ahmed Simon

    Surely, a better understanding of what others believe in and stand for, is a noble manifestation of a civilised society and should be encouraged, but hasn’t it got to be both ways (where Muslims try to understand non-Muslim religions as well).

    To offer a balanced and factual understanding of Islam, here are the undeniable truth, the whole truth nothing but the truth. We will examine the religion of Islam in brevity, in relation to other religions.

    Prophet Muhammad founded Islam. But unlike Prophets of all other religions who were inspired, directed and had dialogues with God himself, in the presence of numerous witnesses; but, the Quran in Surah 2:97 confirms that Angel Gabriel revealed the Quran to Prophet Muhammad “by Allah’s leave”. So it seems Allah’s monologues (revelations) was carried indirectly to Prophet Muhammad, without a single witness to these important monologues. These monologues received, are what is supposed to be in the Quran (Islam’s most Holy Tenet). But Prophet Muhammad was uneducated and completely illiterate (could not read or write), and with also a poor memory, unlike prophets of other religions, who were well educated. [The Question is, why didn’t Allah have a dialogue directly, (as with other prophets), instead of treating Prophet Muhammad as third rate, by going through a third party?]

    The Hindu Vedas have more than 50,000 verses. The Buddhist Scriptures is more than 30,000 verses, the Taoists have more than 20,000 verses, the Bahai’s Scriptures, comprise 12,000 verses, against the Quran’s 6,241 verses (Quran is no match).

    The Quran is one book, whereas the Bible comprises 66 books. The Quran has 433 pages (including List of Surah and General Index – in total), whereas the Bible is of 1,709 pages (not including pages on Foreword, Preface, List of Contents, 66 Book Covers, Map Index and Subject Index) (No match at all).

    The verses in the Bible amount to a voluminous 31,173 (23,214 + 7,959) against the Quran’s paltry 6,241 verses. The Quran has 114 Surah (chapters) against the Bible’s 1,189 chapters. The Bible is made up of an incredible 774,746 (593,493 + 181,253) words. (The Quran is no match at all).

    In substance, the Quran states in Surah 22:52 that Allah removed Satan’s verses in the Quran. (One wonders, why was Satan’s verses in the Quran in the first place). Also in Surah 16:101 Allah confirms that he removed some of his verses and replaced them with other verses. (One wonders, why Allah had to change/improve/polish his own works), but our God, the Almighty, did not need to make improvements and corrections in his Bible, as he is the One True God, perfect the first time, and supreme. (Why couldn’t Allah get it right the first time?)

    Allah confirms in Surah 2:106 –“Such of our revelations as We abrogate (cancel) or cause to be forgotten, We bring (in place) one better or the like thereof.” (Canceling verses in the Quran? Forgotten? Why did Allah make such mistakes?)

    The word ‘Islam’ means to submit or surrender to Allah (Muslim’s God). In surah 9:29, Muslims are commanded to kill Jews and Christians who do not submit or surrender to Allah. But the One true God Almighty only calls us to love everyone, unlike Allah. But in 9:5 Allah commands Muslims to slay (kill) all Idolaters. [But I suppose it is okay with Allah for Muslims to pray to a stone structure (Kaaba), and the black Stone embedded on its wall. (What hypocrisy?)]

    Allah further says in the Quran to slay (kill) transgressors in Surah 2:191 “and religion is for Allah (only)”. The word ‘transgressors’ is as elastic as can be, and can mean anything. So how would anyone know the limits set to qualify as a transgressor (especially when there is no limits mentioned anywhere in the Quran)? How can a Muslim apply a judgment on a non-Muslim for transgression without even knowing what ‘transgression’ means (so it becomes a ‘free for all’, based on each individual perception, and authorised by the Quran/Allah)? When the school authorities call for ‘empathy’, they should first ask Muslims to empathise with the non-Muslims, who are at a loss with such ill defined, utterly unfair, all encompassing and wicked pronouncements of this Allah against them. What if the non-Muslims apply this same Surah on the Muslims? Isn’t ‘empathy’ a ‘two way street’? But we civilised non-Muslims, do not subscribe to a religion with such savage, inhuman, intolerant and evil hypothesis. (‘Allah’ is a Sanskrit word, specifically applied, from 2,500 B.C. to chant the Hindu Goddess Durga, spiritual spouse of Lord Siva).

    Muslims used to face Mecca (Ka’aba) to pray initially. The Quran confirms, the direction to pray was changed from Mecca to Jerusalem (ignoring the Ka’aba). And hundreds of years later,another correction was made, to face Mecca again; all as per Surah 2:142 – 145. As God is everywhere, all non-Muslim religions are free to face in any direction to pray, and God would listen. Why try to focus on one spot on earth (Is Allah squatting there)? As the earth is round, the Muslims are actually producing a trajectory of focus, out to space. Technically, the American Muslims should look down towards their feet, through the earth, to come out on the other side of the Globe, towards Mecca. Unless you are within sight of the Kaaba, all Muslims are actually facing outer space to pray, and not Mecca. Didn’t Allah know the world is round, if he did create it? But it gets even better, when Allah confirms the earth is flat as in Surah 15:19, 78:6 & 88:20. In Surah 18:87 Allah specifically, states the sun sets into a muddy spring water on planet earth. (How the sun rises, daily, is another silly story as in Surah 18:91).

    In Surah 4:7-14 Allah proclaims his Inheritance Law in painstaking detail; but the problem is, which ever way one computes, it doesn’t add up to 100% of the available inheritance (who goofed?). The Quran teaches in Surah 15:19, 21:31, 31:10, 78:7 & 88:19 that Allah threw down mountains, like pegs, to prevent the earth from shaking/wobbling. (Now, this will send Geologists & Volcanologists dumbfounded). In Surah 41:9-12, Allah confirms that he created the earth and the Heavens in two days, but in Surah 2:117 Allah confirms he created the Heavens and earth instantaneously. Allah goes further to confirm in Surah 7:54, 10:3, 11:7, & 25:59 that he took six days. But then again, Allah elaborates in Surah 41:9 to 12, to describe his creation of the Heavens and earth in 8 (2+4+2) days. (Now really, who is confused?).

    A Muslim male inherits double that of a Muslim female, as stated in surah 4:11 and also a woman is only half a male witness. In surah 4:34 a Muslim husband is to whip (flog) his wife/wives to correct them, until she submits to him. There is no such gender discrimination and savagery in non-Muslim religions and every Christian is equal, in the ‘eyes of God’.

    To spread Islam, Allah commands Muslims to kill unbelievers “in the name of Allah”, as in Surah 4:74. In the Bible, God tells us to love one another, and to show others by example.

    In substance, the Quran has no Prophecy, no Miracles, no History, no Geography, no Chronology, no sequence, no Parables, no Biography of anyone, just a relatively small book of jumbled up verses of general do’s and don’t.

    Islam is a complete miss-match with any other religion and in any standard, whichever way you look at it. These are undeniable facts.

    (There are many more, contradictions, errors, stupidity, hatred, absurdity, violence, gender bias, savagery, intolerance, evil, in the Quran, that to associate it with God is blasphemy).

    Now let’s go to the subject of fasting. Generally, all religions do practise fasting. The logic is to experience the suffering of the starving/poor; and also to share the sacrificed food/money with the starving/poor. But how does anyone fasting, ever understand a religion better, as claimed by the R.O. I. School authorities, really baffles me?

    In Islam, over a 28 day period, fasting is practiced during daylight hours only (for about 12 hours), and the Muslims eat 3 to 5 very heavy meals, every 3 hours or so, over the hours of darkness, every night (when Allah can’t see?) to more than replace the missed food during the daylight hours. But by fasting during the day and over-eating (stuffing) in the night, the Muslims are actually spending more money and consuming more food than usual, in 24 hours; and no honest sacrifice is made, for the starving/poor. Later, they hypocritically come out with even more money/food pretending to share with the poor, what was never really sacrificed. Except for the first 2 days, conditioning your body to adapt to the consumption of food at night, instead of the day, (for example, night shift workers) defeats the very logical purpose of fasting and God knows no real sacrifice was made for the starving/poor, and the Muslims are cheating. This is another falsehood of Islam.

    Haven’t the non-Muslims shown genuine empathy to the Muslims, by providing shelter and sustenance in their own numerous countries worldwide, when these Muslims came fleeing from persecution from their own Muslim comrades? In reply, to our kindness and generosity, the Muslims killed thousands of innocent non-Muslim men, women and children, in Bali, the Philippines, Jakarta, Xinjiang, Kashmir, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Jordan, Israel, Sudan, Istanbul, Morocco, Algeria, Kenya, Chad, Niger, Chechnya, New York, Washington, (President Bush said in UK, “These are not dreams, but the reality”). Everyone knows the discrimination, abuse, sufferings, maiming, killings, etc inflicted on the non-Muslims by the Muslims, worldwide. No empathy was, and is shown by the Muslims for the non-Muslims. In fact, it has been shown on TV, the Muslims rejoice when non-Muslims are blown into unrecognisable bits and pieces.

    In reality; we are already aware, of every Muslim terrorist group being led by a religious leader, well versed in the Quran. We are also aware of innocent-looking Muslims (around us) funded these terrorists for terror. You can’t take the Quran from a Muslim; but he will discard the Quran, on his own, if he becomes a non-Muslim. (I am an example of that).

    Where did the Muslim ‘understanding’ go to (or do they have any conscience at all, through their Islamic nurturing), for the non-Muslims? Now, honestly, who needs ‘understanding and empathy’ against all this savagery, intolerance and evil?

    • shabeer

      #Prophet Muhammad founded Islam
      PROPHET MUHAMMAD LAST PROPHET FROM THE GOD………………………HE NOT A CREATOR OF ISLAM……….ISLAM THE RELIGION OF OUR UNIVERSE AND NATURE ,EXCEPT SOME HUMAN SOUL REST OF THEM R MUSLIM,THEY PRYING AND WORSHIPING THEIR CREATOR AND FOLLWING HIS RULES…………..

      #The Hindu Vedas have more than 50,000 verses………………..OHI THINK POSITIVE AND SENSUAL/LOGIC MY BROTHER ,WHAT THE USE OF MILLIONS OF WASTED VERSES,ITS BETTER THAN 100 TRUTH VERSES,CONSIDER I MILLION PERSON SAY A LIE AND ONE MAN SAY TRUTH,WHO U FOLLOW THEM………….ONE OR MANY? HERE THE VERSES HOW CAN IT KEEP THE DIVINITY,MORALITY,TRUSTFUL,PEACE AND MANKIND IS MOST IMPORTANT………………….

      U R LOT MISUNDERSTANDING ISLAMIC WISDOM FROM THE ORIGINAL TEACHING FROM QURAN AND SUNNA,I THINK SOME WESTERN CONCEPT OF ISLAM MAKE LIKE THIS ,COME TO HERE I WILL CLEAR ITS ALL ONE BY ONE…………………

      EX) U WROTE
      #A Muslim male inherits double that of a Muslim female……………………WHY?
      In truth, the only religious text that grants the right of inheritance
      to woman is the Qur'an. Indeed, many of the nations, termed
      today as progressive, have conferred upon women the right to inheritance
      only in the twentieth century. As for the Qur'an itself, it had
      declared unequivocally in the seventh century itself that, “From what
      is left by parents and those nearest related there is a share for men
      and a share for women, whether the property be small or large, – a
      determinate share…”(4:7)
      According to the Old Testament of the Bible, only sons have
      the right to inheritance. Therein can be seen verses, which suggest
      that the wealth of the deceased is to be divided amongst the sons of
      the deceased. (Deuteronomy 21:15-17). There is also the recommendation,
      which requires that the daughters be given the right to inheritance
      if there are no sons. “And you shall speak to the children of
      Israel, saying: ‘If a man dies and has no son, then you shall cause his
      inheritance to pass to his daughter” (Numbers 27:8). Even the widow
      had no right in the wealth of her husband. (Rev.A.C.Clayton: Bible
      Dictionary (Malayalam Version), P.113)
      As far as the New Testament of the Bible is concerned, there
      is no mention, whatsoever, of any proportioning of the wealth of inheritance
      in it. The Christian church had, in all such matters, been following
      the commandments of the Old Testament. It was precisely for this
      reason that, until very recently, women had not the right to earn and
      save – not to mention any right to inheritance – in all such areas where
      the majority was Christian in population. It was in 1848 that women
      were allowed to earn money in New York. It was in 1850 that the law,
      which allowed for women to have the right to inheritance, came into
      effect.
      The Hindu scriptures, which saw woman as the private property
      of man, and formulate laws in accordance thereof, does not even
      make a mention of making her a beneficiery in the wealth of inheritance.
      A reading of the Hindu books makes us to understand that the
      wife is the private property of the husband, which he can always give
      away in charity or for the use of another. Sudarshan who makes available
      his wife for the entertainment of the guest (Mahabharath: commandments)
      and Mithrasah who hands over his wife to Vasishta (Peace)
      both are indicative of this. There is nothing in the Hindu scriptures,
      which imply that the daughters are entitled to the wealth of their father.
      Indeed, the Manusmrithi has laid down the law that it is the sons
      who are entitled to the wealth of inheritance.
      Oordan pishushcha mathrucha samethabrathrasamam
      Bajeran Pytrakamriktha manishasthi hijeevatha (9:104)
      “After the father and mother (are dead), the brothers should
      assemble and divide the paternal estate equally, for they have no power

      • SONGADH LION

        Hey Shabby u little pig did u curse momad and ala today

      • Islam is the religion of the universe, how far you have travelled throughout the universe? The way you attack other religions seems you are an Islamist. How can you hear all nonsense about Islam here? Go away and live happily in your Islamic world. Got it?

      • jonmc

        "PROPHET MUHAMMAD LAST PROPHET FROM THE GOD HE NOT A CREATOR OF ISLAM"
        So why does 'Allah' spend so much time on making sure that ol'Mo gets what he wants: 20% of the booty, women, children whatever Mo wants, Allah makes sure he gets. Even Aisha in the Sahih hadith says " "I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your wishes and desires." Bukhari Vol. 6, Bk. 60, No. 311. From this we see that even to the first Muslims some of 'Allah's' decrees that particularly favoured Mo seemed odd.

        "ISLAM THE RELIGION OF OUR UNIVERSE"
        Curious. How can empty space have a religion? Religion requires some capacity for thought (a very limited one in some cases I'll agree). Atoms, molecules etc. do not think. I would say that if the Universe has a "religion" it's probably quantum mechanics and relativity, since those are the "rules" that it obeys.

        ISLAM THE RELIGION OF NATURE". Natural religion? Given that nature is mostly a desperate struggle for survival and that it is "red in tooth and claw" you might have a point. Nature is violent in nature and so is Islam, yet I've not seen any animals performing the five pillars of Islam; or do you regard sword-jihad (or beak, claw, teeth jihad in nature) as so central that that is the only consideration?

        "EXCEPT SOME HUMAN SOUL REST OF THEM R MUSLIM,THEY PRYING[sic] AND WORSHIPING THEIR CREATOR AND FOLLWING[sic] HIS RULES"
        Are you saying that all animals have souls, Shabeer? If so then that makes halal slaughter even more cruel since your victims' last memories carried into eternity will be of the agony of having their throats cut and their lives violently taken. How do animals, plants fungi, bacteria and viruses (if you consider them living things) pray Shabeer? What "rules" are they following?

        "U R LOT MISUNDERSTANDING ISLAMIC WISDOM FROM THE ORIGINAL TEACHING FROM QURAN AND SUNNA,I THINK SOME WESTERN CONCEPT OF ISLAM MAKE LIKE THIS
        Oddly enough, we quote from the Quran and Sunnah. non-western Muslims usually decry "westernised" forms of Islam that are tolerant and "secularised" as not being "real" Islam. All you have to do to find out what "real" Islam teaches is listen to the preaching from Mid.East Mosques etc. The hatred for the kafir is clear to see.

        "COME TO HERE I WILL CLEAR ITS ALL ONE BY ONE"
        Well, keep trying Shabeer. Sadly I think it is you that misunderstand Islam, since your view shifts as frequency as a weather-vane: one day you say that apostates are not to be killed, than another cut-n-paste post says they are. Or in arguing a point you give a link that says the opposite! Why you do this I can't say, but it certainly makes it look as if you don't really understand what you are writing, excuse me, copy-pasting.
        - – -
        I'm not going to bother to reply to your copy-paste here.

        • shabeer

          WHAT A COMEDIAN MAN WAS MR.JONMC……………?
          HE ALWAYS PLAYING IN WRONG COMMENT IN WRONG TIME………………..BROTHER I AM EVER SAYS ANIMAL HAS SOUL,WHY R PLAYING WITH LIE[UNCLAIMED] SUBJECT……………………. THE FIVE PILLERS ONLY FOR HUMAN JONMC NOT ANIMALS,THEY HAVE THEIR OWN WAY OF LIFE INSCRIBED THEIR GENETIC CODE ,THEY FOLLOWING IT,THEY CAN'T WALK AGAINST IT,

      • Julia

        ILLOGICAL AGAIN.
        TU QUQUE =YOU TOO .
        STUPID MUSLIM SHABEER !

      • humanity

        So Pigs & Dogs & all the animals also Islam by Ur Logic. How can you Hate or Eat your Brothers.

    • shabeer

      over the two of them while they are alive”.
      The Qur'an recognizes the right of the sons and daughters to
      the wealth of their parents.Besides the right of the sons and daughters,
      the Qur'an clearly recommends the exact share that the parents,
      spouses and siblings of the deceased person have to be approportioned
      from that person’s wealth. Indeed, the right of the son and daughter is
      but a part of this share allotment. So goes the beginning of the Qur'anic
      verses which deals extensively with the subject of inheritance: “God
      (thus) directs you as regards your children’s (inheritance): to the male,
      a portion equal to that of two females: if only daughters, two or more,
      their share is two thirds of the inheritance; if only one, her share is a
      half . For parents, a sixth share of the inheritance to each, if the deceased
      left children; if no children and the parents are the (only heirs),
      the mother has a third, if the deceased left brothers (or sisters) the
      mother has a sixth. (The distribution in all cases is) after the payment
      of legacies and debts. Ye know not whether your parents or your
      children are nearest to you in benefit. These are settled portions ordained
      by God; and God is All knowing, All wise. In what your wives
      leave, your share is a half, if they leave no child; but if they leave a
      child , ye get a fourth; after payment of legacies and debts. If the man
      or woman whose inheritance is in question, has left neither ascendants
      nor descendants, but has left a brother or a sister, each one of the
      two gets a sixth; but if more than two, they share in a third; after
      payment of legacies and debts; so that no loss is caused (to anyone).
      Thus is it ordained by God; and God is All-knowing, Most forbearing.”
      ( 4:11,12). In short, therefore, the son of the deceased is to have a
      share in the inheritance that is twice to that of the daughter. However,
      is this meant to be an act of discrimination towards the woman? Is this
      a law that tends to highlight partiality towards the man? It will be of
      benefit if the following facts are understood before any conclusions
      are hastily arrived upon:
      One: The Qur'an recognizes the right of woman to earn wealth.
      Indeed, to earn as much as she desires. There is to be no right for the
      man in any such earnings of hers. Her earnings will be hers alone.
      Two: Under no circumstances will the protection and maintenance
      of woman; children or the parents become the duty of the
      woman. This then means that irrespective of how wealthy a woman
      might be, she is not duty bound to bear the expenses of her own self,
      children, parents or husband.
      Three: Woman has the right to take, at the time of her marriage,
      her dower from her husband. This dower (Mehr) is then effectively
      treated as her own wealth.
      Four: The protection of the family is the duty of man. It is man
      who is duty bound to bear the expenses of his wife and children. Furthermore,
      it is again his duty to protect his parents and other close
      relatives. In effect, therefore, all financial burdens have to be borne
      by man.
      Five: Irrespective of how wealthy a wife might be, the husband
      has no right, whatsoever, to take from any portion of her wealth without
      her explicit permission.
      The question may now be considered as to whether the Qur'an
      has dealt justly or discriminatingly with the woman.
      The wealth of inheritance received by woman is hers and hers
      alone. None else has the right to this wealth. But what of that received
      by man? He has to pay his marriage dower, take up the maintenance
      of the women. And to bear her as well as the children’s expenses.
      All falls under the responsibility of the man. Then is it man or
      woman who has found favourable treatment in the Qur'an?
      All other religious texts, which confer financial responsibilities
      upon the man, have, in lieu of such duties, restricted the right to inheritance
      with the man. As for the Qur'an, while it does stress upon the
      fact that all financial burdens will be shouldered by man, it, nevertheless,
      provides for the inheritance of woman as well. Indeed, by
      approportioning half the inheritance of man to woman it has greatly
      honoured her.
      What then, can be the non-Qur'anic recommendations of the
      critics on this subject? Two such recommendations may be raised:
      1. Woman be given twice the wealth of man. Confer financial responsibilities upon woman.
      2. Man and woman be given equal share in the wealth of inheritance.
      Distribute financial responsibilities equally between them.
      Both these recommendations seek to burden woman with the
      yoke of financial responsibilities. This is an idea that is against the
      very nature of womanhood. For, during times of pregnancy and childbirth
      she yearns for the care and protection of the man. To burden
      woman with financial responsibilities, as a rule, is to create conditions
      of grave and far reaching consequences that will arise in the future.
      As such, it is certain that the law which the Qur'an has put forward as
      the subject of inheritance is, by far, the best that there is for woman’s
      good.

  5. KKKK

    this is long overdue…but what about those who are already in the Netherlands? and Europe elsehwere? i'm afriad the battle for Europe has already been lost due to multicultrualism, liberialism, decline of traditional Christianity, etc. still, theres always hope.

  6. No Islam

    The Dutch are a very freedom loving people. Especially if it is about religion.
    They fought a 80-years (!) during war against Spain about their religion. Spain was then (17th century) a superpower
    But the Dutch won. The will win this time too, I am sure .

  7. prof

    go for it holland

  8. Apostate

    To Shabeer.
    About the strange letters Alif,Lam, Mim etc. in the Quran.
    To Shabeer.
    You said:
    The names of letters of the Arabic alphabet, called huruf muqatta'at, occur at the beginning of several surahs of the Qur'an. At the time of the Qur'anic revelation the use of such letters was a well-known literary device, used by both poets and orators, and we find several instances in the pre-Islamic Arabic literature that has come down to us.
    Give us the proof!
    SHOW us these several instances of PRE-ISLAMIC ARABIC literature ! IN ARABIC OF THAT TIME !! That is ARABIC OF ABOUT the year 600 and earlier !!!
    Where can we see it ? WHERE ARE THESE DOCUMENTS ???? I WANT AN LOGICAL AND UNDERSTANDABLE ANSWER .

    • Verdi

      No one knows.. Smart manipulatoe this "prophet" The more weird stuff the more "believable"
      How primitive ! How stupid ! LOL

    • shabeer

      I ANSWERED THERE ,WHAT THE USE POSTING A ANSWERED COMMENT AGAIN AND AGAIN…………………………….?

      • Esther

        1) YOU PROOF TO BE A LIAR AGAIN AND AGAIN, BRAINDEAD SHABEER !
        WHERE did you answer ANYTHING? NOWHERE !!
        2) You think that you proof something by saying that it comes from Allah or Mohammed.
        BUT THAT IS WHAT WE DENY! BY GIVING YOU HUNDREDS OF PROOFS ! BUT YOU CAN'T OR WILL NOT SEE THEM. We HAVE
        3) IT IS YOU WHO COMES AGAIN AND AGAIN WITH THE SAME STUPID,BACKWARD CRAP.
        All readers have seen this over and over again ;-) .
        THIS,AGAIN, is called a TU QUOQUE, a logical fallacy. But this is also is said to you AGAIN AND AGAIN.
        What is the USE,SHABEER ?

  9. Apostate

    About the year 622 AD will also do , ;-)

  10. cheeshead

    proud to be Dutch

  11. Nacheez

    May I request Mohammad the prophet (the above person who commented) to give all references from Trilogy (Quran, Hadiths and Sirat) for all the 23 points finely stated by him May I request the FFI editors also to publish these evidences as a separate article in FFI. This will also be eye opener to 'cat on the wall' muslims as well as referencer to all Islamic Kaffirs. Kindly consider my request.
    —Islamically 'Nacheez'

  12. The coming 3rd world war (Armageddon) will not be just a war like other wars.

    It will be a war between light and darkness.

    It will be a war between truth and falsehood.

    It will be a war between freedom and oppression.

    It will be a war between the worshippers of god & worshippers of devil.

    It will a war between man and the beast.

    It will be a war between Islam and non Islamic faiths.

    Inshalla the kafirs will emerge victorious.

    • shabeer

      ISLAM OTHERS
      light and darkness.
      truth and falsehood.
      freedom and oppression.
      worshippers of god & worshippers of devil.

      • jonmc

        Thank you Shabeer.
        I'm glad that you have clarified that in the eyes of Islam all non-Muslims are inveterate liars and "devil-worshippers". At least that is concrete proof that Islam teaches Muslims to hate all non-Muslims.
        Thank you.

  13. shabeer

    Open Letter to Islamophobe Dutch MP Geert Wilders

    by Rev. Frank Julian Gelli

    Dear Mr Wilders,

    They say you can only take a horse to the water, you cant make it drink. But human beings are not horses. Unlike animals, they can be reasoned with. I offer these few remarks in the faint hope you are amenable to reason.

    It is about your recent speech to the Alliance of Patriots in New York. In which you paint an apocalyptic picture of the Islamization of Europe. You describe some European cities with Muslim neighbourhoods in lurid terms. It is a world where women walk around in figureless tentsTheir husbands, or slave holders, if you prefer, walk three steps ahead. Mr Wilders, I live bang near one of those areas in West London. I often visit Whitechapel and Edgware Road parts of our colourful Londonistan I have never seen a Muslim woman walking behind her husband. Rather, the mothers stroll about in a proud, dignified manner, alongside the men. Nothing in their behaviour suggests a subordinate role, let alone slavery. And there are tons of lively, even feisty Muslim girls wearing all sorts of gear. True, they may not, as a rule, behave like permissive, liberated females, baring the flesh, hugging and kissing partners in public, no. I would even guess most of them dont sleep with boys before marriage. But since when are chastity, modesty and self-restraint so bad? The traditional, Christian mores of the Western civilisation which you claim to uphold used to prize such things, no?

    25 per cent of the population of Europe will be Muslim just 12 years from now. Lies, damned lies and statistics, someone said. But if you want native Europeans to stay numerically supreme, how about encouraging them to have more children? To urge them not to use contraceptives, the pills? To give up abortion? To bolster family values? Stop bashing Islam. Embrace the Christian religion in its conservative, sound traditions and all will be kosher.

    Thousands of mosques across Europe. With larger congregations than churches, you notice. Well, whose fault is that? Do perhaps Muslims stand at church doors, stopping the eager faithful from worshipping the Lord? Methinks you should rather address yourself to Christians. Look at Muslims you should say. Look at how many regularly pray. How keen they are on the observances of their religion. You should do the same. Exactly. The flourishing of mosques across Europe should serve as a stimulus to Christians. A window of opportunity. As an urgent reminder to get back to their vital, life-giving roots the worship of the One True God. Why blame pious Muslims for the faults of lukewarm or nominal Christians, eh?

    In Amsterdam gays are beaten up almost exclusively by Muslims. Awful, if true. Funnily enough, I recall the words of Pym Fortuyn, the gay right-wing politician murdered by a fanatic. I have nothing against Moroccans I have slept with so many of them. From Andre Gide to William Burroughs, the Arab world has been one of artistic gays favourite fun destinations. Tangiers nickname was Sodom on Sea. Homophobia cant be all that endemic amongst Arabs, I should imagine.

    The history of the Holocaust can no longer be taught because of Muslim sensitivity. How bizarre. First, a godson of mine has been to Auschwitz, on a school trip. Part of a programme to learn about wartime horrors. School curricula in Britain do in fact include projects about WWII and persecutions of Jews and other people. Londons Imperial War Museum has a holocaust section, which I viewed just the other day. Whats more, TV channels force-feed viewers with a daily, obsessive dose of films and programmes about the war and Germanys crimes. If anybody should complain about this state of affairs, it should be Germans. It fuels Germanophobia, the lurking, masochistic English vice. Do todays Germans deserve such constant pilloring? After all, isnt Germany amongst the strongest supporters of your beloved state of Israel?

    The Prophet Muhammad. Had he been a man of peacelike Ghandi and Mother Teresa wrapped in one, there would be no problem. But Mohammed was I wont quote the rest, as it would be distasteful. Muhammad certainly did not found a religion like the Quakers, no. And he is definitely different from figures like Buddha and Jesus. However, why you did not compare him to a prophet and lawgiver like Moses? Muhammad had the Jewish tribes of Banu Qurayza slaughtered, you write. Well, Exodus 32:25 has Moses ordering the Levites to slay those who had worshipped the Golden Calf, about 3000 men. Today you have ordained yourselves for the service of the Lord Moses told the slayers. Hardly like Gandhi, would you agree?

    • shabeer

      You are silent about Moses, I suspect, because in your speech you wrapped yourself in the mantle of defender of Israel. Mr Wilders, this Anglican priest is opposed to the destruction of the state of Israel. Because I am a Christian, Jews are rather important to me. I support both a Jewish state and a Palestinian state. A modest-sized Jewish Vatican in the Holy Land is the realistic solution. Bernard Wassersteins thoughtful book, Israel & Palestine, points the way. Wasserstein shows how your fantasy of Israel as a heroic outpost of the West against the incoming Jihad is nonsense. Indeed, Israeli society today needs immigrants as much as Europe does. And they wont be Jewish immigrants. Despite your astonishing garbage about rising anti-Semitism in France (headed by a Jewish President!), Jews worldwide are happy where they are they not migrating to Israel or should I say Isra-hell, as my Israeli friend Ronen once wrote?

      Ok, you dont like Muslims. Yet they are not going to go away. Your case is analogous to that of the man whose garden was infested by ladybirds. They were everywhere. He didnt like them. He tried several methods to get rid of them. Sprays, insecticides, this and that. Nothing worked. The ladybirds kept being around. Indeed, they multiplied. The guy was getting obsessed with them, growing paranoid, bitter, haunted. Eventually, he sent an e-mail to a wise old friend, an experienced gardener: What should I do about the damned ladybirds?

      The reply came: I suggest you learn to love them.

      Rev. Frank Julian Gelli

      SOURCE: Blogging Theology FATHER FRANK’S RANTS, Rant Number 369 29 October 2009 http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/art

      • john

        The point is dear shabeer, is that Muslims follow Mohammad with all his criminal and twisted behavior while all the other people follow goodness no matter what their religion is. God created us good in the core, so deep down, we all can tell the right from the wrong without a text. Islam suppresses your ability to tell the right from the wrong because it imposes on you its own twisted ideology.

        • shabeer

          PLZ PROVE U'R CLAIM WITH SOLID EVIDENCE ,PERSONAL OPINION NOT SUITABLE FOR A MORAL CRITICISM

          • john

            it's obvious shabeer, everytime when an old man marries a child, when a muslim kills a kafir, when a man beats his wife, when a man marries more than one and divorces at will, when men force women to wear hijab and deny them to enjoy life and do sports like normal people, when muslims build mosques everywhere and deny others to practice their religion in their countries………do i need to say more shabeer?

          • Dorothy

            All you do is giving your persomal opinion !
            You don't even know what "moral" means , you evil, backward ,stupid, inbred Muslim.

          • Dorothy

            There are given to you hundreds of proofs.
            All people here have read them. Only you dare not look at them. How many times men like Ali Sina repeat these proofs from your own books you look away from it!
            You deny the truth. Silly copy and pasting will not help your case.

          • hunter

            what more proof do you want???????? dear blind pig…read koran…..and understand political conspiracy underlying it…………

    • john

      Your letter won’t work shabeer. Why do you demand that Mohamed should be compared to Moses and not Jesus or Gandhi? Isn’t he the perfect man? Isn’t he good enough to be compared to Jesus or Gandhi? Why do you insist on comparing him to ancient people whose stories are more fable than reality? I know why you demand that. The answer is: Mohammed is a criminal and you know it.

      Don’t you find it strange that Moses killed 3,000 men right after holding a commandment stone that said “Thou shall not kill”?
      And 3000 men? I doubt it. At the time, if you combine all of them, men+women+children+cattle, they would barely reach 3000.
      Everyone knows that the Old Testament is not accurate and not entirely true. No one claimed that it is the perfect word of God. Just ask any Christian or Jew. There are the true stories and the exaggerated stories or fables; there is the word of God and the word of men. The way to differentiate is to compare what is written to the 10 commandments.

    • jonmc

      And the source for this letter is? …
      let's have some intellectual honesty Shabeer.

    • Esther

      "Well, Exodus 32:25 has Moses ordering the Levites to slay those who had worshipped the Golden Calf, about 3000 men."
      STUPID ,ILLOGICAL TO QUOQUE OF THIS MAN !

    • Dorothy

      We know who these political incorrect people are. We call them traitors or at least stupid dreamers.
      The same people who let A.Hitler do his fascistic work.

    • Julia

      YEP !!! EVIL AND STUPID COPY/PASTE CRAP OF THE CRETIN SHABEER , AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN …. REMEMBER YOUR WORDS SHABBY? …..AGAIN AND AGAIN …

  14. Serpent

    There are violent verses in the bible and violent verses in the hindu books but none of their followers are holding guns to people's heads to accept them.Only in Islam do you have religious thugs that literally shove their crap down people's throats.
    Christains and hindus don't kill their critics,so all the copy paste crap from other religious books are irrelevant.

    • taqiyyadIndian

      The violence mentioned in Hindu mythology far exceeds any so far in the history of mankind. But all of it is in context directed towards specific ppl for specific purpose & so it never got 'Emulated'. The problem with Islam is their violence is directed generally towards us 'Kafirs' even without provocation from our side. So any Jihadi can blow himself up n die in the cause of 'Allah'.

    • shabeer

      #Only in Islam do you have religious thugs that literally shove their crap down people's throats………………………………….

      BROTHER U MIS UNDERSTANDING ISLAM ,IF CONSIDER 1.5 BILLION MUSLIM DOING LIKE THAT , AS U SAYS ,THEY WORLD AND PEOPLE NEVER EXISTED LIKE THIS ,SOME CRUEL PEOPLE IS THERE I AGREED,THEY DOING THEIR ACT ONLY FOR GETTING POLITICAL INTEREST,MONEY AND SOME PHYSICAL EARNING.DON'T COMPARE SOME LITTLE PEOPLE ACT WITH PEACEFUL ISLAM,DURING THE SECOND WW HITLER /CAPITALIST KILLED 10 BILLIONS PEOPLE ,IT MORE DANGEROUS THAN ALL THE TERRORISM AFTER IT ,TILL NOW,IF JUDGE THE PEOPLE ,FIRST U LEAVE CHRISTIANITY BEC'S HITLER AND /CAPITLIST R CHRISTIANS,AND SOME WESTERN MEDIA TOO PLAY THEIR ROLE WELL FOR CAPT LIST/ JEWS FOR MAKING ISLAM=TERRORISM……………………………….

  15. Jay

    Please vote against, we are losing please help: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/polls/act-news/gu

  16. Honest Infidel

    Shabeer will surely come with excuses. He will surely hide himself behind some silly copy/pasting.
    He has shown that again and again here .

  17. Esther

    Shabeer said:
    PROPHET MUHAMMAD LAST PROPHET FROM THE GOD………………………HE NOT A CREATOR OF ISLAM……….ISLAM THE RELIGION OF OUR UNIVERSE AND NATURE ,EXCEPT SOME HUMAN SOUL REST OF THEM R MUSLIM,THEY PRYING AND WORSHIPING THEIR CREATOR AND FOLLWING HIS RULES…………..
    ———————————————————————————————————————————————————-
    PROOF THIS !! YOU DID NOT PROOF THIS BECAUSE YOU CAN NOT ! YOU…..BELIEF IT !!!…..
    Believing is NOT the same as KNOWING !!!

  18. humanity

    Besides other things Integration Bill should also address the issue of ' Population Bomb' which swells like balloon & raises its ugly head at appropriate time. It should also take care of issues involved with 'Voting Rights' used as a 'Wedge between Parties & even Larger Society'. Otherwise you will have to give First Right to them on the Resources.

  19. serrae

    The Dutch Govt. needs to restrict child allowances to famillies of 3 children and under to stop funding the muslim breeding programmes. These muslims say they will conquer Europe with their women's wombs as they breed for Allah.
    The UK also needs to address the problem of high birth rates amongs muslims. Its been reported that 3500 muslim men in the UK have more than one wife and family and the whole thing is funded by welfare. This must be stopped and second wives and their children deported.
    I wish the UK had a decent Govt. like Holland and some MP's like Geert Wilders.
    Geert is a very brave man and all haters of Islam applaud him.

  20. Dutch Muslim

    I am a Dutch muslim . I want to say something about the strange letters Alif, Lam , Mim and so on in the Koran.
    We have on our language som short words like the arabic letters. Perhaps the have a meaning like that.
    Here it comes"
    Lam Lul Maf.
    It means in Engilsh "Lame", "prick", "Crazy".
    So I am sure Allah talks about Mohammed : He find his evil prophet a "LAME CRAZY PRICK ".
    Perhaps the other strange ietters have some same meaning.
    I hope this explanation will help the muslims.

  21. Raj

    This news is a victory for Geert Wilders, the late Theo Van Gogh, Ali Sina, Ayan Hirsi, etc.

    • Raj

      Which also means a victory to the anti islamic movement. If Europe is rescued, the rest America and the Indian sub continent too will see similar moves very soon. Finally, the Muslims will not have their cake and eat it too.

      The best course of action would be to disenfranchise them of their voting rights. Make them special citizens.

  22. Historian

    STUPID CRAP OF SHABBY SHABEER !
    He (himself!) wrote: " DURING THE SECOND WW HITLER /CAPITALIST KILLED 10 BILLIONS PEOPLE."
    This is ,of course VERY,VERY,stupid.!
    1) Hitler was an evil fascist like Mohammed, that part is true
    2) but 10 billions people is backward nonsense; 10 billion alone is about ALL the human beings ever living on this earth !!
    10 billionS (!) is completely crazy.
    3) What is TRUE though, is that muslims killed since 622 A.D. ca. 280 million human beings , and enslaved a multitude of this number.

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