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Berlin Wall & Ayodhya Temple

By Dr Jay Dubashi

The Wall itself was an ugly structure, which only communists can put up. It was an eyesore right in the midst of one of the most beautiful cities in Europe. When I climbed the Wall and stood on top, I could see East German soldiers patrolling beneath us, with drawn bayonets.

On November 9, 1989 to be exact, a wall came down in Europe and it changed history for all time to come. It brought an empire built up by monsters known as communists crashing down on their heads. It was an earth-shaking event whose after-effects are still being felt across the world, though it happened twenty years ago. And the whole thing began with the removal of a single brick from a wall that had stood between the people of Europe and freedom.

I am referring, of course, to the Berlin Wall that was brought crashing down on that date, but I also refer to other mental bricks that the communists had erected around the world in an effort to safeguard their imperial interests. With the Wall, went the 72-year-old history of a moth-eaten revolution, in the name of which, the commies had tried to bamboozle a whole world, and almost succeeded.

There is also another quirk of history. While the Wall was coming down in Berlin, the first brick of the Ramshila foundation was being laid in Ayodhya. While a temple was going up at Ayodhya, a communist temple was being demolished at the same hour and on the same day five thousand miles away in Europe. If this is not a historic coincidence, I do not know what is.

Actually, it is not a coincidence. It is history in the making, for history has a way of righting a wrong and restoring a balance to the entire historical architecture. The Berlin Wall came crashing down because it was a perversity and a product of twisted minds. The Ayodhya temple was going up because it was a right temple at the right place, for where else would you have a temple for Sri Ram except at Ayodhya, the sacred place where he was born? All that has happened is that a wrong has been righted, which is what history does, for that is its main function.

I was at the Berlin Wall a few months before it fell. I had gone there more as a tourist, but also as a student of history. I wanted to know how it feels to be part of history, in fact, to be history itself, for I had a strong suspicion that the Wall was destined to come down sometime or the other, maybe even in our own lifetime, though that was too good to be true. I flew from Frankfurt to Berlin in a rickety plane that almost crashed before we landed. But our Berlin hosts assured us that we were safe, probably safer than the Wall itself.

But when I arrived at the Wall, not far from the old Hitler chancellery, I somehow felt that things were not quite right. The Wall itself was an ugly structure, which only communists can put up. It was an eyesore right in the midst of one of the most beautiful cities in Europe. When I climbed the Wall and stood on top, I could see East German soldiers patrolling beneath us, with drawn bayonets, as if preparing for an assault. One soldier was so close to us that I could almost touch him and nearly did, until I was told that these men had shot dozens of East Germans crossing over to West Berlin, as it was a crime to leave your part of the city to go into another part. Communists have strange rules about domicile, for sometimes you are a citizen of their country though there are times when you are not.

This was twenty years ago. Things have changed and the whole of East Germany has now become part of Germany. There is, of course, no Berlin Wall, and you can drive from one part of Berlin to another without bothering about visas and such things. Lots of countries east of the Berlin Wall have now left the Soviet Union which itself has ceased to exist. There is no Soviet Union. There is no hammer and sickle, and there are no red flags. Lenin’s corpse is moulting in the mausoleum while the government decides what to do with it. Moscow is, however, full of broken statues of Joseph Stalin and his comrades, gathering dust and moss in some forlorn parks where even children fear to go.

The Berlin Wall was more a symbol than a piece of brick and mortar, but the fall of the Wall was succeeded by the fall of communism itself, as if the two were related, which, of course, they were. It took only two years more for the communist regime in the Soviet Union to collapse, as if it was waiting for the Wall to fall. Even Mikhail Gorbachev must have been surprised at the way the Soviet Union disintegrated so rapidly after the dismantling of the Wall.

What about Ayodhya? It will take maybe another thousand years before a temple comes up at the place. It is shocking how slowly things move in India. As I said, it took the East Europeans only a couple of years to dismantle the evil empire of Stalin & Co. and recast their country in a new democratic mould. Those who have visited the new Russia say that the country is no more what it used to be under Stalin & Co. Some things are better and some things are worse, but the new Russians as a whole are much better off than they used to be. There are still beggars taking shelter in the Moscow underground and young women offering themselves right under the windows of the Kremlin-as they did when Stalin was alive-but otherwise things have changed for the better. People are better dressed, they eat better, and children go to schools that have proper teachers and proper textbooks.

But, as I said, nothing has changed in Ayodhya. Time has stood still, as it always does in India, when there is no one to push it. We Hindus are a timid lot. We are always looking for someone else to solve our problems, as if we had nothing to do with them, and the problems were not our responsibility. Ayodhya is not someone else’s responsibility; it is the responsibility of Hindus-and Indians. It is true we have a hostile government in Delhi and an equally hostile and irresponsible one in Uttar Pradesh, but we cannot go on endlessly waiting for someone come from the heavens to help us build the temple. It is time we Hindus gave up looking for others to solve our problems. If we cannot make an effort-legal, political and social-to have a temple for Sri Ram built in Ayodhya, what is the use of all these millions of Hindus who are supposed to inhabit this land of ours?

Hindus have to help themselves, even if the whole world is against them. Didn’t the people of West Berlin help themselves? The Berlin Wall was demolished, brick by brick, stone by stone, until nothing remained in the place on November 9, 1989. But we Hindus are still waiting for our temple.

Source: Folks Magazine

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42 Comments for “Berlin Wall & Ayodhya Temple”

  1. To Jay Dubashi;

    You say "Hindus have to help themselves, even if the whole world is against them"

    And who's stopping them? No one. Good luck!

  2. When a common man around the world was trying to get a piece of brick and concrete from the Berlin wall as relic there were countless muslim folks collecting pieces of brick from the wall to clean their private parts as prescribed in Quran. Islamdevotee you were foremost amongst them. So how stones many do you use to clean yours everyday ?

  3. Ayodhya Should just be a start for Indians. Next should be Taj Mahal and other similar buildings or monuments,

    For the real Taj History:

    http://www.faithfreedom.org/op-ed/distortion-of-i… http://www.faithfreedom.org/op-ed/distortion-of-i… http://www.faithfreedom.org/op-ed/distortion-of-i… http://www.faithfreedom.org/op-ed/distortion-of-i… http://www.faithfreedom.org/op-ed/distortion-of-i… http://www.faithfreedom.org/articles/op-ed/distor…

    As we all know that a Picture speak louder than words:

    http://www.stephen-knapp.com/was_the_taj_mahal_a_vedic_t...

    In Collection one: 2, 5, 8, 11, 14, 21 and others

    In Collection Two: 8, 14, 21 (important in regard of original design), 32, 34 and others.

    There are many other articles, by Dr Radhasyam Brahmachari, regarding various monuments which are falsely claimed by Islam.

  4. This Islamdevotee entered these forums thinking that he will be able to convince Islam haters here with his brilliance. But soon he was banged from all sides and realized his foolishness. He couldn't answer many many questions. Initially this fellow was talking about Science, mathematics, logic etc,, in Quran. Now his duty is to be the first person to post a comment on every article, opposing it. He is a typical MODERATE MUSLIM, who first talks about peace, greatness of Islam etc., Slowly as he is getting defeated he is showing his true color. His comments show that he is a RADICAL MUSLIM who would be very happy to see all non believers' heads cut.

  5. @Kautilya

    Argument 1:

    You say: Ram Mandir is a issue of honor.

    We say: You don't care for innocent human life, you just care for your egos. you have already destroyed the Masjid present there, at that site, which resulted in HUGE loss of Human life, Huge loss of Human life for this false pride.

    Argument2:

    You say: Ram Mandir is symbol of strength!

    We say: you want to show your damn "STRENGTH", and you don't care for innocent Human lives that would be lost in this bloody process of show of strength..do we really need a Temple at that site now ? I mean will Shri Ram have asked people to build a Temple there for him even at the cost of Human lives ?? Now.. there was a Huge loss of life during its demolition, okies that was done, that's the past, but do we really need to be stubborn again and claim that piece of land for a Temple at the cost of Human lives ??

    If you guys have studied the teachings of Shri Ram, ask yourself one question, would he have praised you after you guys built a Temple for him at the cost of innocent Human lives ?? Can he(God – Ram) ask people to build a Temple for him even if it comes at the cost of innocent Human life ??

    If yes, then go ahead, i really really feel sad and care a damn for such people who don't respect Human life. As simple as that, this all is being done for the sake of false ego.

    Argument 3:

    You say: For you ram might be ego,for me it is symbol of my nationalism against Barbaric invaders like Muslims Mughals.

    We say: Nopes, killing people for false pride is EGO for me. Or doing things for false pride which would result is loss of human life is useless ego for me. Shri Ram is NOT..

  6. We = Secular(not moslemscumbags)

  7. India has been constantly invaded and looted because of the nature of its people who cannot see a tyrant even when face to face.Here we have a type of secularism popularly called pseudo secularism.Many practice this art for various reasons.It consists in appeasing muslims and refusing to hear,see or talk the truth about Islam and its dangerous active followers.

    Almost all of the present day muslims here are ex Hindus ,the progeny of Islamic rape of the Hindus over a period of a thousand years.However with time the progeny of these rapists have multiplied and are doing what they learnt from their fathers and grandfathers.

  8. @above

    Guys i can understand your feelings and i have no sympathy towards these type of muslims and sickulars or pseudo secular. I am just worrying about innocent lives of the people. Can't we just skip that land and build something which promotes humanity i.e. hospital, orphanage something like that. Why to shed blood of innocent people for just a piece of land?

  9. India is a secular Democratic country. Muslims and Christians have helped this country to become so., they should be thankful to them.

    Muslims came to India before the Christian bastards. Muslims help the untouchables to become Muslim and

  10. and teach a lesson to Brahman bastards , after Independence high caste Brahmins decided to remain same thieving bureaucrats as created by the British Christian bastards. Islam is better than Christianity. Better than the Brahman lead Hindus. Islam will rule India and the world very soon.

  11. @Omarkhalif: before embarking on your grandiose plans to rule over the 'world' try ruling properly over a country with peace. Afghanistan, Somalia, Pakistan try to establish your rule over there first and establish peace in those hellholes.

    @Roger: Your arguments are specious

    I particularly take offense to your argument #2 – where you rhetorically ask hindus a variant of question posed to christians – what would jesus say or what would jesus do. Instead you ask hindus what would Ram say.. comeon now

    Well, if you have followed the life of Ram in Ramayan then you know the answer – He destroyed the demon king Ravan (who kidnapped his wife Sita) with the help of ragtag army of creatures of the forrest . To us the Hindus, islamists and invaders are modern day Asuras or demons. All demonic creatures and their collaborators will be destroyed eventually..only a matter of time

  12. Muslims in the past helped the Spanish people to get rid of evil Christians and they had a great Mosque there and the same thing is going to happen where (the great Muslim Jihadis lead by Sheik Osama taught a great lesson to the arrogant Christian Americans).9/11 a great day for all Muslim believers. No Holy Koran burning will be tolerated.

    In India also the Muslims are helping the poor helpless untouchable Hindus to destroy all communal Hindu sites and convert to Islam ; the religion of real God Allah and his only prophet Mohammad.

  13. @Omarkhalif: I am sorry Omar, I am really sorry i tried to engage you in a conversation. I seriously overestimated your IQ ( This is your cue to go back to whatever rock or masjid or cave you crawled out from.)

  14. @omarkhalif

    I do NOT know which world you live in and what is your standard for morality, much less about spirituality….but normal people regard a pedophile like Muhammad and pimp god like allah as manifestation of worst evil on Earth….Xianity compared pisslam is way too ethical…forget even comparing to Hinduism…

  15. Look at your demonic people, i mean mooslims, they go around raping innocnt women, esecrating worship places, threatening innocent non-believers….this is a global phenomenon (in terms of geography and time for centuries together)…this is enough proof for us non-mooslims to know allah is devil and muhammad was possessed by this devil, just like pedophile followers like you too are possessed…

  16. Roger says:

    We say: You don’t care for innocent human life, you just care for your egos. you have already destroyed the Masjid present there, at that site, which resulted in HUGE loss of Human life, Huge loss of Human life for this false pride.

    It is mooslims who caused huge loss of life..Mooslims had the choice NOT to act violent and yet did that….Look at the scenario in Deganga, West Bengal now…what is the reason mooslims are on rampage now? Mooslims need no reason for genocide…

    You foolish seculars (perhaps xians) blame Hindus fo rthis also….

    Argument2:

    We say: you want to show your damn “STRENGTH”, and you don’t care for innocent Human lives that would be lost in this bloody process of show of strength..do we really need a Temple at that site now ? I mean will Shri Ram have asked people to build a Temple there for him even at the cost of Human lives ?? Now.. there was a Huge loss of life during its demolition, okies that was done, that’s the past, but do we really need to be stubborn again and claim that piece of land for a Temple at the cost of Human lives ??

    If you guys have studied the teachings of Shri Ram, ask yourself one question, would he have praised you after you guys built a Temple for him at the cost of innocent Human lives ?? Can he(God – Ram) ask people to build a Temple for him even if it comes at the cost of innocent Human life ??

    If yes, then go ahead, i really really feel sad and care a damn for such people who don’t respect Human life. As simple as that, this all is being done for the sake of false ego.

    Again, your entire argument is false…It is mooslims who are doing all the violence….Hindus have every right to build Ram mandir in the specific place for it is their land and their place of pilgrimage which mooslims destroyed…

    Showing strength and resolve against evil people is important….otherwise evil people will get away with everything….

    It is people like you are who are responsible for mooslims and other evil people walking away without repercussion….

    Perhaps you will argue similarly if a goon threatens and rapes your own family members and NOT take action….

    We say: Nopes, killing people for false pride is EGO for me. Or doing things for false pride which would result is loss of human life is useless ego for me. Shri Ram is NOT..

    It is mooslims who went around killing people….It is NOT kautilya or other Hindus…..If Hindus reacted in some cases with violence, you cannot blame them….mooslims are responsible for this too… look at Deganga….

  17. Roger says:

    We say: You don’t care for innocent human life, you just care for your egos. you have already destroyed the Masjid present there, at that site, which resulted in HUGE loss of Human life, Huge loss of Human life for this false pride.

    It is mooslims who caused huge loss of life..Mooslims had the choice NOT to act violent and yet did that….Look at the scenario in Deganga, West Bengal now…what is the reason mooslims are on rampage now? Mooslims need no reason for genocide…

    You foolish seculars (perhaps xians) blame Hindus fo rthis also….

    Argument2:

    We say: you want to show your damn “STRENGTH”, and you don’t care for innocent Human lives that would be lost in this bloody process of show of strength..do we really need a Temple at that site now ? I mean will Shri Ram have asked people to build a Temple there for him even at the cost of Human lives ?? Now.. there was a Huge loss of life during its demolition, okies that was done, that’s the past, but do we really need to be stubborn again and claim that piece of land for a Temple at the cost of Human lives ??

    If you guys have studied the teachings of Shri Ram, ask yourself one question, would he have praised you after you guys built a Temple for him at the cost of innocent Human lives ?? Can he(God – Ram) ask people to build a Temple for him even if it comes at the cost of innocent Human life ??

    If yes, then go ahead, i really really feel sad and care a damn for such people who don’t respect Human life. As simple as that, this all is being done for the sake of false ego.

    Again, your entire argument is false…It is mooslims who are doing all the violence….Hindus have every right to build Ram mandir in the specific place for it is their land and their place of pilgrimage which mooslims destroyed…

    Showing strength and resolve against evil people is important….otherwise evil people will get away with everything….

    It is people like you are who are responsible for mooslims and other evil people walking away without repercussion….

    Perhaps you will argue similarly if a goon threatens and rapes your own family members and NOT take action….

    We say: Nopes, killing people for false pride is EGO for me. Or doing things for false pride which would result is loss of human life is useless ego for me. Shri Ram is NOT..

    It is mooslims who went around killing people….It is NOT kautilya or other Hindus…..If Hindus reacted in some cases with violence, you cannot blame them….mooslims are responsible for this too… look at Deganga….

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  19. @ continuum

    You are not trying to understand what I am saying here. Let me put it in this way.

    OK, i agree that riots are started by muslims and all the wrongdoings are done by them that means Hindus are unsafe. Now, my question is in-spite of knowing the consequences you still want to build the temple there. Even on the cost of the lives of your HINDU brothers and sisters.

    You will feel satisfied to build a temple on the dead bodies of innocent HINDU people. Past is past, we should take lessons from past. But we should not let past to ruin our present. In which book its written that we should punish 5th or 7th generation for the crime committed by their ancestors?

    I request you to atleast assure the security of Hindu people and then construct the ram temple.

  20. Hinduism indeed has its faults – for example, the caste system and its treatment of women. However, Islam is far worse. Its jihad, shariah, murderous/rapist prophet and goal to convert everyone to islam, is different from Hinduism. The purpose of the website is to expose Islam and its Prophet and it seems that some moslems posting on this site want to divert attention from this by attacking Christianity and Hinduism. It just shows that these muslims do not have the courage, honesty or intellectual rigour to answer some tough questions about Islam. Divert (create a smokescreen), create vulnerability (ie. victimhood) to throw off scutiny, deny, run, name-call…. It's really a game of smoke and mirrors dealing with some of these insincere muslim posts. Ignore them. Don't respond. That is what they want.

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  23. "@simple_soul:"Thanks for your simplicity. You said "I seriously overestimated your IQ " that's very simple of you; that itself proves your IQ level, am I correct? LOL

    @continuum" I don't know how much you know about or what is your understanding of Moral or Spirituality is ; but the present day so called Hindus of India are worse than any Christian or for that matter any degenerate Muslim as far as your Morality or Spirituality is concerned. Just look at the pseudo secular politicians ( whether they belong to BJP or MNS ) or the pseudo secular Delhi based so-called Scholars or Mass media controllers.

    There are good people also ,even if they are by birth Muslims or Christians.

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  27. Roger says:

    OK, i agree that riots are started by muslims and all the wrongdoings are done by them that means Hindus are unsafe. Now, my question is in-spite of knowing the consequences you still want to build the temple there. Even on the cost of the lives of your HINDU brothers and sisters.

    You do NOT understand my point….Giving up like this will make mooslim animals even more violent…because this only shows them mooslims that enough violence and they can get away with anything…Today they are raping Hindu women in Deganga, West bengal, tomorrow it will be your home….will you still argue in similar way?

    This is what I call giving in to criminals…..Hindus must first grab political power then…build the Temple after giving due protection to Hindus…Whatever the method, Hindus should NOT give in to the wishes of mooslim mob violence…..If West Bengal was ruled by person like Narendra Modi, do you think mooslims will even dare to attack Hindus….Hindus should NOT give up building Temple in that specific site…….

    Not every mooslim is going to wake up through logic and exposing quran just like this website does…only a minority will wake up, but vast majority are genuinely animals and the only solution if PURE BRUTAL FORCE and BRUTAL APPLICATION OF LAW…

    If the Indian army had decided to mow the mooslim mobs in Deganga with machine guns, the riots would have stopped in 10 minutes….Instead like pussies they are making flag marches when these animals were attacking Hindu women….FORCE and TERROR is the language pisslamic animals understand…

  28. @omarkhalif,

    I agree politicians in India are the worst….I even agree that they are worse than pisslamic degenerates…for they enable them….However none of them I think are Hindus for they do NOT believe in Hinduism….

    For your information majority of Brahmins in India are powerless and poor. They cannot do much even if they want to do anything…

    As for your pisslam, it cannot be solution to anything….pisslam is inherently evil….All abrahamic religions are inherently evil, bigoted and political…..

  29. Roger says:

    I request you to atleast assure the security of Hindu people and then construct the ram temple.

    Are you serious? You are talking as though Hindus will have security if they do NOT build Ram Temple…

    What is the reason mooslim mobs in Deganga attacked Hindus?

    Is it Ram temple issue or is it quran burning episode? The politicians in West Bengal are already on a mission to give this event a political color….

    As long as mooslims are NOT taken collectively responsible and made to pay for their demonic ways, there is NO SECURITY for anybody…

  30. @Roger:

    continuum is right. No Hindus, Christians, Jews, Sikhs, Buddhists, Jains or even Muslims (if they do not agree with the violent mobs and do not follow a particular type of Islam) are safe any where in the world. Terror is the only way Muslims show their supremacy over others. They do not need any reason to be violent. They divided British India into two in 1947 but Pakistan was split again into two in 1971. Now they are trying very hard to separate Kashmir from India and West Bengal is becoming another Kashmir. This trend will continue not only in India but all over the world until the world wakes up and decides to put an end to this very dangerous cult called Islam by taking very drastic measures.

  31. sagintoronto says:

    Hinduism indeed has its faults – for example, the caste system and its treatment of women.

    I do NOT know which world you live in….while caste system is a genuine social problem (Hinduism does NOT authorize exploitation at all), Hinduism is way superior to any abrahamic religion, including xianity in its treatment of women. Hindu women were ruling, excelling in arts and many fields in India when European and other xian women did not even have right to vote (as in US until early 19th century) or hold positions of power in public offices…..

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  36. When you look at the world especially during the last thirty years or so you are shocked seeing the bloodshed & chaos in the name of religion & the grand trophy goes to Islam (The religion of Peace) with Christianity a distant second. God no doubt is the most loving, merciful, compassionate entity whatever name people may call him by. Why did Allah or God the merciful make these mostly uneducated or otherwise well schooled Muslims so angry, agitated & violent so as to resort to burning, mutilating, & killing people at random with or without any reason, with self-righteous arrogance, against some perceived grievances. Any human being especially a person who does 5 times sincere prayers to God should by necessity is calm, loving God-like individual. Instead we see just the opposite! Why? Muslims are in a hurry to turn the world into green (not for environmental reasons) but to make world a Jihadi paradise. This cry of Allahu Akbar(God is great) has caused untold misery & bloodshed all around the world especially in South Asia. Will sane people of the world watch this without protecting themselves from this onslaught?

    God’s plans are mysterious & Law of Karma is always at work: Good begets good & bad begets bad without any fail. You don’t get mango fruits by planting Lemon trees. When God sees human beings, with free will, indulging in beastly violence, bloodshed & mayhem; according to Gods well laid plans sends them back to earth not as violent beasts but as human beings & make them into Muslims. They procreate unabated with many of them get killed as youngsters with their own suicide belts, bomb making or encounter with police or bomb shower by US planes or fighting with other religionists or with other Muslim sects like Sunnis,Shias, Ahmadiyas, Sufis etc. Many are forced to live in caves like in Stone Age. God purposely gave them small distorted animal brains & mutilate them as young kids & make them into violent Jihadis. They will believe anything told to them however outlandish by the Mullahs. Mullahs exhort Islamist followers to blow themselves & attain 72 virgins in paradise but not a single Mullah will set an example but blowing themselves up but will hide mostly in caves. Finally being the dark Kali age, God will create the final world war of Muslims vs others wherein nuclear bombs will be rained on Jihadis from Middle east to Indonesia & thereby reduce the world population by more than half. Again after a long interval the cycle of evolution will start all over again. I say God is great indeed!!!

  37. @Raj Puducode,

    You are a typical fatalist passivist Hindu – believing that karma and god will take care of everything and you don't have to do anything.. What-else are you .. The fact remains that you are what you do or don't do..Western nations forged ahead after the renaissance because they learnt to take responsibility for their own fate.. Only ruminating .. justifying things and vaguly hoping that some superior force or some strange supernatural law will take care of things..and remedy the maladies in some hopefully near/distant future based on karma….

    This has been the thinking process that has brought the self-proclaimed great nation of Hindus to such a pass.. that they can think of no solution but to rely on the karma principle to emancipate them…

  38. Roger says:

    OK, i agree that riots are started by muslims and all the wrongdoings are done by them that means Hindus are unsafe. Now, my question is in-spite of knowing the consequences you still want to build the temple there. Even on the cost of the lives of your HINDU brothers and sisters.

    Roger, am not here for arguments or am not that capable. But..what you are saying with above words is…to give in to the muslims…BECAUSE….they will kill more people if temple is built. The same thing has been happening since centuries. It is the sword of Islam that islamised arabs at first, then remiaing countries and came to India. It is the same thing that destroyed numerous Hindu temples and threatened any attempt to revive them. It is the same terrorism that divided united India into two..one being Pakisthan which is now giving shelter to terror factory taliban…the same taliban which is backing and supplying terrorist products to Al-quida which became the biggest problem of the world. It is the same terrorism to which you are asking us Indian Hindus to give in.

    Had the allies not united against Hitler fearing the death of innocent people, the world now would have been horrible. You are asking to give in the truth to terror. And answering your question….Are you people ready to die in more numbers for the sake of just a temple….Yes…we are ready to die more in number to erect our symbol of faith. You might be an atheist and you may not feel anything for that faith of ours. But for us it is symbol of survival of our faith. Yes our politicains are corrupt and our hindu leaders are suppressing us Hindus. We agree all those shortcomings of us. Despite all these shortcomings and terrorism, it is important for us to make our faith symbol stand. Refer the Somnath temple history. it was ruined numerous times by Muslims starting from Mohammed Ghaznavi and re-built same number of times.And everytime we re-built we did not fear the re-attacks of muslim and how much death toll that might cause. In this particular case of Somnath and Ayodhya, they are symbols of our freedom to live with independence…with true spirit of freedom. If that demand the payment of our lives, let us pay with our lives the price of the freedom. Let us pave the way for the furture generations to a freedom.

    you know one thing, Muhammed Ghaznavi first attacked somnath temple and took the main idol of the temple along with him. When he was consulted by Hindus who are willing to pay enormous amount of money and gold….he rejected that ransom…saying that he would rather prefer to be stamped as idol breaker rather than idol-seller on the day of judgement before almighty Allah. And FYI…he used that idol in his lavatory. And for a scientific thinker and a common Hindu, the question comes….is there really a god when the earth was not blasting and cracking when Muhammed Ghaznavi used that sacred idol in his lavatory?. And I leave the answer to the individual choice and logic.

    Ayodhya temple is right now not some divine place for Hindus which is sacred due to Ram is born there. It became a symbol of resistance,a symbol of our faith still standing despite a tyranny in middle ages which took the lives of 5 crores of people, a symbol that is to be erected to show we being vexed up with apologists of Islam & appeasers of Islam & minority dominating goverments & sickularist. It is our safety valve of anguish against suppression of our faith under different banners other wise which will take a bad form.

  39. @omarkhalif
    Just know the Indian history.Casteism started as a solution of choosing the earning.A son continued his father's job.But when it needed to change,it didn't and after Muslim invasion,Hindus became very conservative and this practice got worse.I regret Casteism but it is a wrong interpritation by Pseudo-Secular and Leftist Historian that it was the reason of Hindu's conversion to Islam.Problem was not so much.If u study the areas where now Muslim density is high,u will b clear if u actually want.

  40. The Indian Govt is spineless.Let ordinary Indians tell about faithfreedom.org to as many people as they can.
    The problems created by Islam in India would stop if we have more Indians visit this site.
    -Non muslims will look into the dangers of Islam(yes we are aware of it ,but feel we still have another 50-100 yrs before Islamic rules-Burkha,religious tax,kidnapping,raping of non muslims etc will start in India).
    -Free muslims .Muslims will come to see the ugly face of Islam,even though they see it everyday in their homes….no one is opposing due to fear and herd mentality.If millions are following than it must be right ,is their thought.

    So spread the good word…

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