IF ISLAM IS SO PEACEFUL, WHY DO THEY HAVE TO KEEP REMINDING US?
By Don Feder
“Last week, four Southern Baptists were arrested for plotting to blow up St Patrick’s Cathedral. The men, who became born-again Christians in prison, wanted to kill and terrorize Catholics.”
If that was the opening paragraph in a newspaper story you were reading, your gut reaction would be – huh? Baptists don’t do things like that in the name of their faith. Neither do Catholics, Presbyterians, Seventh Day Adventists or Mormons.
But when we read the headline in a May 21st New York Times’ story -- “4 Accused of Bombing Plot at Bronx Synagogues” -- it was ho-hum stuff.
It wasn’t exactly a revelation when The Times informed us, in the 9th paragraph, “They are all Muslims, a law enforcement official said” – just in case you thought the conspiracy involved Episcopalians, Rotarians or the Benevolent and Protective Order of Elks.
If you hear about a hijacking, suicide bombing, sniper attack or the beheading of a hostage anywhere in the world, your first reaction is: a Muslim did it. Why? Because 9 times out of 10 a Muslim did do it.
In the case of The Newburgh Four, here’s what we know:
- Their names are David “Daoud” Williams, James “Abdul Rahman” Cromitie, Onta “Hamza” Williams and Laguerre “Amin” Payen. At least two were prison-converts to the Big Peaceful.
- They planned to blow up two synagogues with what they thought was C-4 explosives, supplied by the FBI.
- They wanted to obtain Stinger missiles to shoot down military aircraft.
- As Assistant US Attorney Eric Snyder stated when the defendants were arraigned in federal court, “These are people who were eager to bring death to Jews and the Jewish community.”
- According to an informant, Cromitie said of the Jewish people: “I hate those motherf-----s, those f---ing Jewish bastards. I would like to get a synagogue.” Also, while scoping out a Jewish community center as a potential target, Cromitie is alleged to have said of nearby pedestrians that if he had a gun at the time, he would “shoot each one in the head.”
If Islam is such a “religion of peace,” why do they have to keep reminding us? Nobody’s running around saying “Christianity is a religion of peace” or “Judaism is a religion of peace” – because neither proposition is in doubt.
Yet, George W. Bush felt compelled to regularly reassure us (especially after 9/11) that Islam was about as peaceful as a religion can get.
Speaking at a 2005 dinner marking the end of Ramadan, Bush’s Secretary of State, Condoleezza Rice, said Mohammedanism was “the religion of love and peace.” For Condi, being peaceful wasn’t enough. Islam had to be warm and cuddly too. “We in America know the benevolence that is at the heart of Islam,” Rice absurdly remarked. “We’ve seen it in many ways” --including in glorious Technicolor, in the video of the decapitation of Daniel Pearl.
President Obama boasts of his Muslim relations and his upbringing in Jakarta. In a speech to the Turkish parliament during his first trip abroad as president, Barack Hussein Obama assured the Muslin world that America “will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over so many centuries to shape the world for the better, including my own country.”
When was the last time a U.S. president conveyed deep appreciation for the Christian faith?
So, Islam is a religion of peace and love, as well as a benefactor of humanity. If this is intuitively obvious, why do they have to keep saying it? Perhaps because the vision of a compassionate Islam is so often obscured by explosions, flying body parts, collapsing skyscrapers, rolling heads, and rabid imams preaching hate the Jews, hate the Christians, hate America, hate the West, etc.
If Islam is so gentle and kindly, why does it have such appeal for the most savage and sadistic element in our society – those filled with resentment and rage, who like to hurt people (a lot)?
Question: Under what circumstances is an infidel most likely to convert to Islam:
1. While volunteering at a hospice or homeless shelter?
2. While working at a day-care center?
3.While planting flowers and singing Kumbaya at a peace rally? or
4. While incarcerated at a state or federal prison?
What’s that? Someone told you, didn’t they?
Conversions behind bars are so common that Mitch Silber, chief NYPD intelligence analyst, says cops have a name for it “Prislam.” Chuck Colson of The Prison Fellowship Ministries was warning us of the coming jailhouse jihad almost a decade ago.
More than 2 million are imprisoned in the United States, of which an estimated 6% are members of the religion of rest-in-peace. Sometimes their real-world experience at hurting people (a lot) is put to good use as newly-minted Muslims.
Have you ever noticed how converts to a faith, or those with a newfound commitment to the religion of their birth, tend to be, well – nicer. Born-again Christians – including those who come from dysfunctional backgrounds – often exemplify the New Testament admonition to be “salt and light,” likewise committed Catholics and those who’ve moved from a secular Jewish identity to orthodoxy.
Islam is the exception.
By all accounts, John Walker Lindh, born into an upper-middle class family, was as normal as a child of broken home in Marin County, California can get. Then, at age 16, he converted to Islam and began calling himself Suleyman al-Faris.
In 1998, at age 17, John/Suleyman traveled to Yemen, to study Arabic so he could read the Koran in its original language. From there, the religion-of-peacenik went to Pakistan to study at a madrassa. The spring of 2001 found him at an al Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan.
When captured by U.S. forces in November 2001, Lindh was fighting for the blissful rule of the Taliban. Now, he’s serving a 20-year sentence at the Federal Correctional Institution in Terre Haute, Indiana, and probably proselytizing the other inmates, when he isn’t studying his peace-manual.
Other converts to Islam, unlikely to be mistaken for Mister Rogers, include:
- John Muhammad – Born John Allen Williams, he converted to Islam in 1987. Mr. Prophet was a member of the Nation of Islam for a time and reportedly provided security for Farrakhan’s 1995 “Million Man March.” Along with his boy companion, Lee Boyd Malvo, Muhammad shot and killed 16 people in 7 states in the fall of 2002. In custody, Muhammad told authorities that he was following in the footsteps of his idol, Osama bin Laden. He’s currently on death row in Virginia.
- Jose Padilla (AKA: Abdullah Al Muhajir) – Joining a Puerto Rican street gang as a teen, Padilla compiled an impressive juvenile and adult rap sheet, including attempted theft, aggravated assault and unlawful weapons possession. In 1998, Padilla became a jihadi tourist, traveling to Egypt, Pakistan and Afghanistan in search of the peace only Islam can bring. Padilla was trained at the camp of an al Qaeda affiliate in Afghanistan in 2000. Bin Laden deputy Abu Zubaydah sent Padilla back to the United States with $20,000 and an elaborate scheme to set off a radioactive “dirty bomb.” Apprehended, he’s now serving the remainder of a 17-year sentence.
- Richard Reid (Aka: Abdul Raheem, AKA: the Thom McAnn of terrorists) – Born in London the son of a Jamaican immigrant, he spent time in a number of British prisons, where he converted to the ROP. As a member of al Qaeda, Reid was assigned to blow up American Airlines Flight 63, en route from Paris to Miami, by igniting explosives hidden in his shoes. In this religious duty, Reid/Raheem failed, and is now serving a life sentence in the U.S.
- Sgt. Hasan Akbar – While stationed at Camp Pennsylvania in Kuwait (preparing to deploy to Iraq), on March 23, 2003, Akbar attacked other soldiers with grenades and a rifle, killing two officers and wounding 14 servicemen. His diary revealed a man of all-consuming hatred. (“Destroying America is my greatest goal.”) Prior to the murders, Akbar confessed in his journal “I will have to decide to kill my Muslim brothers fighting for Saddam Hussein or my battle buddies.” It didn’t take much thought. A military court convicted Akbar of the murders and sentenced him to death. He temporarily resides at Ft. Leavenworth, on his way to a rendezvous with 72 virgins.
The apologists for Islam (Crescent-kissers) respond that these ex-cons and psychos are no more representative of Islam than Bernie Madoff is of Jewish financiers or Ted Haggard (former president of the National Association of Evangelicals, who had a relationship with a gay hooker) is of Christian leaders.
This is a plausible argument, at first blush. But if the Johnny jihadists, snipers, and homicidal anti-Semites got Islam wrong, who gets it right?
How about the Muslim-American groups which, in a rare show of empathy, rushed to condemn the Newburgh Four, including the Muslim Public Affairs Council, the Islamic Society of North America and the Council on American –Islamic Relations?
Putting aside the fact that each of these groups has questionable connections, other than paying lip-service, what are they actually doing to fight terrorism?
Robert Spencer, the editor of Jihad Watch, muses: “One might wonder why Muslim groups don’t become more proactive, and institute programs in mosques and Islamic schools in the West (as well as in the Islamic world) to teach Muslims why the views of Osama bin Laden et al are wrong, and how true Islam eschews violence against and hatred of unbelievers. Yet CAIR, ISNA, MPAC and the rest have never instituted or even called for such a program. They are ready with the condemnations after arrests or explosions, but why wait passively? Why not head off jihadist activity by Muslims”? This is a rhetorical question.
Who gets Islam right? How about a Palestinian religious figure who took the bold move of attending the Second Congress of Imams and Rabbis for Peace in 2008? Attendees vowed to “condemn any negative representation” of each others religions.
For Zaid Abu Alhaj that pledge lasted about a year. On April 3, 2009, he gave a sermon on Al-Aqsa TV which included the following prediction: “The time will come, by Allah’s will, when their property will be destroyed and their children will be exterminated, and no Jew or Zionist will be left on the face of the earth.”
Oh, fine, this crazy Palestinian cleric probably also doesn’t understand the religion he’s practiced his entire life either. How about Sheikh Abdul Rahman Al Sudais, who – as imam of Mecca’s Grand Mosque -- holds the most prestigious Moslem pulpit in the world?
In a 2003 sermon, Al Sudais prayed that Allah would “terminate” the Jews, who he called “the scum of humanity, the rats of the world, prophet killers … pigs and monkeys,” also “evil,” “tyrannical,” ‘treacherous,” and part of a “continuum of deceit.”
Cairo’s Al-Azhar University is the Vatican of the Muslim world. Is it reasonable to suppose that Sheik Muhammad Sayyid Tantawi, grand imam of Al-Azhar since 1996, knows a thing or two about Islam?
The Shriek tells us the Koran condemns Jews for “their own particular degenerate characteristics” including “corrupting” the words of Allah, “consuming the people’s wealth frivolously, refusal to distance themselves from the evil they do, and other ugly characteristics, caused by their deep-rooted lasciviousness.” But, there is hope. “All Jews are not the same. The good ones become Muslims, the bad ones do not.”
You’d think the Muslim chaplain at Harvard could put a happy face on his faith.
According to the April 14 Harvard Crimson, in an e-mail response to a query from a Muslim student, Taha Abdul-Basser wrote that there was “great wisdom (hikma) associated with the established and preserved position (capital punishment (for apostates)) and so, even if it makes some uncomfortable in the face of the hegemonic modern human rights discourse, one should not dismiss it out of hand.” Thankfully, the Islamic world isn’t troubled by that darned hegemonic modern human rights discourse.
Harvard’s official chaplain later explained that he was merely expressing a position that “I do not hold … personally” -- but which contains “great wisdom” and which “one should not dismiss out of hand.”
What is the West’s response to the Rampaging Religion of Peace?
As Obama-appointed Director of the Department of Homeland Security, Janet Napolitano doesn’t have time to watch the jailhouse jihadists. She’s too busy staking out pro-life demonstrations, NRA conventions and American Legion meetings. This is where the real danger to our national security lies, Nepalitano informed us in the DHS report “Rightwing Extremism: Radicalization and Recruitment,” issued on April 7.
Nepalitano’s counterpart in the United Kingdom, Home Secretary Jacqui Smith, focuses on fighting evil Islamaphobes – witness her decision to ban the likes of Dutch parliamentarian and “Fitna” producer Geert Wilders and talk-show host Michael Savage from the shores of Albion.
So PC is she that Smith wants British officials to begin referring to Islamic terrorism as “anti-Islamic activity.” Not only are terrorists’ acts no reflection on Islam, they’re giving the religion of peace a bad name!
Smith knows Islam has nothing to do with terrorism. How? Muslims told her so. “As so many Muslims in the U.K. and across the world have pointed out, there is nothing Islamic about the wish to terrorize, nothing Islamic about plotting terror, pain and grief.” If I was a used-car salesman, I’d pray Smith would wander onto my lot.
In the U.K. each bombing and kill-the-infidels sermon becomes an indoctrination moment to assure the credulous that to call attention to slaughter committed in the name of Islam and condoned by the words of Islam (contained in the Koran), slanders Islam. Oh for the days when Labor governments only wanted to destroy Britain’s economy, not the nation itself.
Nepalitano prefers the designation “man-made disasters” to terrorism.
Obama is too busy fighting a war on capitalism and trying to close down Guantanamo (and mainstream the jihadists into the U.S. prison population) to pay much attention to an ideology backed by guns and bombs and bent on world domination.
The day is approaching when TV and radio broadcasts will be interrupted every 15 minutes with the message “Islam is – you betcha – a religion of peace.” Otherwise, we’re bound to forget.
I was talking with some
I was talking with some modern Muslim guys in orkut and was asking them to read an English quran with an open mind, and these guys without blinking said they have ! this shows either they are lying or fully brainwashed into thinking all written there is true, the worst part is as I was trying to make them convince something is terribly wrong in their book I was removed from the membership of that forum in orkut without warning. I did not know if it was done by some "mullah in the making" or some "politically correct" moron
"If Islam is so peaceful, why
"If Islam is so peaceful, why do they have to keep reminding us?"
Well let's not forget those immortal words of Goebbels, the Propaganda Minister to Hitler "If you repeat a lie often enough, people will start to believe it."
Unfortunately only naive dhimmis, those Islamic vassals, believe this blatant lie and too many violent Muslims still don't believe a word of it. It should therefore be preached more often in those bastions of hate - the mosques and madressahs.
I think these very apt words from this great article by Don Feder say it all.
"More than 2 million are imprisoned in the United States, of which an estimated 6% are members of the religion of rest-in-peace. Sometimes their real-world experience at hurting people (a lot) is put to good use as newly-minted Muslims."
These criminals find Islam a great blessing from Allah, as they don’t have to give up their present lifestyle activities such as murdering, raping, looting, child-molesting and vandalizing to enjoy Allah’s promised carnal heaven. In fact the more of it they do, the greater the reward. What more could they ask for? Islam is tailor-made for them.
A religion of peace? I think not. More like a religion of war. I prefer to believe facts not fiction.
The west has forgotten how
The west has forgotten how they earned their freedom. they endured 2 WWs, and countless local heroes who fought for freedom and equalities. they are very good at telling a local worker not to wear the st. georges cross cause it may offend some of his colleagues. That is how pathetic our system has become. Yet they refuse to listen to sane advice, and learnt he truth about Islam.
When a religion had to advertise on buses (in London) to tell that me Islam is peace, you can tell how desperate they are. They might impress the average joe on the street but it wont work with those who have enquiring mind and thank to the internet and sites like this.
It is pathetic how blind people are, even when you slam them with evidence.
I need no advertising , no web sites, no brainwashing. Just get their book and read it. How difficult can it be?
One thing for sure, under Islam and according to their book, and as a Christian or Jew or Hindu etc... I will either have to convert, live 2nd class status or get killed (if I don't kill them first). For this reason alone they are evil and intolerant.
Islam is peace. Don't think so.
"man-made disaters" is
"man-made disaters" is misnomer. It should better be "muslim-caused disasters".
Hmm only Islam needs PR and
Hmm only Islam needs PR and media support that its 'religion of peace', why not others like buddhists?
Islam comes up with many dubious approach to subordinate humanity. The cunning ones want to impose islam and sharia in a slow and legal way using all the freedom of the non-muslim world. But islam is a multi-headed hydra evil.many true muslims follow the guidance of the merciful allah and blow themselves up and kill others , pointing questions to others why this so?
The cultural jihadists or so called moderate muslims want to wait till they have a good demographic number to show the true islam to kaffirs in the west. Till then they want no hindrance to muslim immigration, welfare benefit to muslims, more muslim children, special status to muslims.
In this approach the useful idiots like leftists, obscure journalists, writers are helping them.
If that was the opening
If that was the opening paragraph in a newspaper story you were reading, your gut reaction would be – huh? Baptists don’t do things like that in the name of their faith.
Says who? a lying xian...
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/717775.stm
'Church backing Tripura rebels'
By Subir Bhaumik in Calcutta
The government in India's north-eastern state of Tripura says it has evidence that the state's Baptist Church is involved in backing separatist rebels.
Tripura Chief Minister Manik Sarkar said state police had uncovered details of the alleged link after questioning a church leader.
Nagmanlal Halam, secretary of the Noapara Baptist Church in Tripura, was arrested late on Monday with a large quantity of explosives.
Mr Sarkar said that allegations about the close links between the state's Baptist Church and the rebel National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT) have long been made by political parties and police.
Now for the first time, he said, hard evidence supporting the allegations had been found.
Explosives
Mr Sarkar told the BBC that Mr Halam was found in possession of more than 50 gelatine sticks, 5kg of potassium and 2kg of sulphur and other ingredients for making explosives.
Chief Minister Sarkar says he has proof
He said that two other junior members of the same church, arrested last week, had tipped the police off about the explosives which were meant for the NLFT rebels.
The chief minister said that Mr Halam confessed to buying and supplying explosives to the NLFT for the past two years.
Another church official, Jatna Koloi, was arrested in south Tripura last week.
Police say Mr Koloi had received training in guerrilla warfare at an NLFT base last year.
Conversion
Guards have been placed outside the headquarters of the Baptist Church in Tripura's capital, Agartala, to prevent possible attacks on it once the news of Mr Halam's arrest spread.
The NLFT is accused of forcing Tripura's indigenous tribes to become Christians and give up Hindu forms of worship in areas under their control.
Last year, they issued a ban on the Hindu festivals of Durga Puja and Saraswati Puja.
The NLFT manifesto says that they want to expand what they describe as the kingdom of God and Christ in Tripura.
The Baptist Church in Tripura was set up by missionaries from New Zealand 60 years ago.
It won only a few thousand converts until 1980 when in the aftermath, of the state's worst ethnic riot, the number of conversions grew.
Take a look at these pictures
Take a look at these pictures of attacks against Buddhist temples by xians. How are xian hypocrites any different from Muslims. A quote from bigoted xian.
buddhapia.com/eng/tedesco/pic1/list.html
"If I acted on what I believed I, too, could have vandalized temples. When I consider those who commit such acts I think to myself that they have a much stronger faith than me." BBC-World (TV), Asia Today, May 21, 1999.
“Last week, four Southern
“Last week, four Southern Baptists were arrested for plotting to blow up St Patrick’s Cathedral. The men, who became born-again Christians in prison, wanted to kill and terrorize Catholics.”
I do not know if Baptists, terrorize Catholics, but surely, both Baptists and Catholics terrorize Hindus and Buddhists in various countries. Read below. Xians are known for hypocricy. Both Islam and Xianity is a curse on humanity.
haindavakeralam.com/HkPage.aspx?PAGEID=8903&SKIN=B
Tigers’ Eelam: Nothing ‘Hindu’ or ‘Tamil’ about it
04/07/2009 10:53:16 HARAN.B.R
“LTTE Chief Prabhakaran was inspired by Bhagwat Gita; he was greatly enamoured of the principles enunciated in the Gita; his motto was ‘do your duty but do not expect any benefit from it.’ He found his ideology from the song depicting the discourse between Arjuna and Krishna in the Tamil film ‘Karna.’ The Itihasa-Mahabharata enthralled him. The characters he identified with were Bhima and Karna. He believed that in order to fight evil and establish dharma, it is essential to eliminate one’s enemies.”
(expressbuzz.comeditionstory.aspx?title=Prabhakaran%20was%20inspired%20by%20Gita&artid=ItENrbNWK4I=&type)
“The Indian freedom struggle fascinated him. He read the Tamil version of Mahatma Gandhi’s autobiography “Satya Sodhanai” (Experiment with Truth) in his early teens but was not enamoured by it greatly.”
“His ideal and idol was Netaji or Subhash Chandra Bose. Netaji had ideological differences with the Mahatma about the mode of struggle for independence. At one stage he disapproved of Gandhi’s “non-violence” and went on to form the Indian National Army (INA) to launch an armed struggle against the British.”
“Apart from Netaji, Prabhakaran was also impressed by the Sikh freedom fighter Bhagat Singh and two other freedom fighters from Tamil Nadu namely Vaanchinathan and Thiruppur Kumaran” (merinews.com/catFull.jsp?articleID=15769930).
“Prabhakaran also read the Tamil translations of Swami Vivekananda’s writings and speeches avidly. Another spiritual person he looked up to was Thirumuga Kirupananda Vaariyaar popularly called ‘Vaariyaar.’”
All these informations, which were not in the public domain for the last three decades, have suddenly emanated from nowhere after his death.
The latest canard is that the LTTE represented the “Hindu” Tamils of Sri Lanka.
(online.wsj.com/article/SB124466281725103177.html).
A serious analysis on Prabhakaran’s activities would clearly reveal that neither he nor his actions were anywhere near the impressive list given above! Then why are such canards being spread?
It seems that the western Christian nations and their paid agents in India, Sri Lanka and elsewhere are bent upon giving a “Hindu” colour to the LTTE with the purpose of branding it as a “Hindu Terrorist” outfit, especially at a time when the Christian hand behind the Tamil Eelam and its full fledged support to LTTE has been categorically established in the geo-political arena.
Damaging Diaspora
An extremely devious game is being played by Christian hands which rally behind the Sri Lankan Diaspora while simultaneously aiding so-called Tamil organizations. Even after the defeat of LTTE and the liquidation of its top leadership, the Sri Lankan Diaspora, prodded by the western powers, has been harping on the demand for separate Tamil Eelam. The diaspora has gone to the extent of calling itself future “Tamil Tigers” and saying it would achieve the objective of “Tamil Eelam” at any cost.
Wikipedia says, “The Sri Lankan Tamil diaspora is difficult to explain in one example. It was neither a continuous process nor a sudden one. It cannot be attributed to a single circumstance or incident. In fact, even the history of migration of Sri Lankan Tamils in each country is different and has to be read and understood separately.”
However, to simplify, it divides the Sri Lankan Diaspora into three distinctive periods as British Colonial Period, Pre-1983, and Post-1983. The most important observation by Wikipedia is that, ‘the Sri Lankan Tamils tended to differentiate themselves from emigrant Indian Tamils in the host countries by their caste, socio-economic status, unique Sri Lankan Tamil dialects, religious practices and food and cultural habits.’
(en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Lankan_Tamil_diaspora).
This tendency to differentiate themselves from the Indian Tamil Diaspora, which integrated well with ‘Hindu’ communities from other parts of India, could have helped Christian establishments to influence them, as evidenced by the ‘Christian’ leadership of the Sri Lankan Tamil Diaspora in almost all countries, particularly in Canada, France, Germany, UK and the US.
The Sri Lankan Tamil Diaspora’s strength is considerable in Canada (400,000), UK (300,000), France (100,000) Germany (60,000), Australia (53,000), US (35,000) and Italy (24,000). It is rather painful to note that the Diaspora is in no mood of reconciliation, exhibiting its lack of concern for the millions of civilian Tamils suffering in Sri Lanka. The Sri Lankan Tamil Diaspora seems more bothered about continuing the terror legacy of LTTE and enjoying refugee status in the host countries, thereby allowing the present LTTE leadership to enjoy the wealth amassed over the years, than finding a peaceful settlement for the tormented Tamil community in the northern / eastern part of Sri Lanka.
The Sri Lankan Tamil Diaspora comprises Hindus and considerable numbers of Catholics and Protestants. Christian organizations which support the LTTE covertly, take care to keep the Diaspora under its control through the LTTE. Analyzing the widespread support enjoyed by the LTTE in the Diaspora, journalist Nirmala Rajasingham noted, “The LTTE in the course of its military and political campaign decimated all other political opinion within the Tamil polity in Sri Lanka, in order to establish itself as the “sole representative” of the Tamil people. At the same time, it began to flex its muscles within the Tamil community in the west. In time its stranglehold over the diaspora communities – including through methods of intimidation, assault, and threats to families in Sri Lanka – became an accomplished fact. Paris and Toronto were prime examples of the phenomenon, where unquestioning compliance was demanded and wrought.”
Regarding the fund-raising opportunities ‘created’ by LTTE, she said, “The Tiger lobbyists, fundraisers and propagandists in the diaspora are relentless in attempting to enforce submission to its command performances. Even for events such as ‘martyrs’ day’ celebrations or the funeral of the LTTE ideologist Anton Balasingam, thousands are mobilised and bussed in. Every tragic event is turned into a fundraising opportunity.”
(opendemocracy.net/article/the-tamil-diaspora-solidarities-and-realities).
Meanwhile the death of Prabhakaran has caused divisions within the LTTE, one in support of K. Pathmanathan (KP), leader of LTTE’s international affairs including fund raising and arms purchasing, and the other against him. It is believed that KP has complete control of LTTE’s huge funds and assets like cargo ships, etc. The Sri Lankan government has sought international help to capture him. The LTTE’s intelligence wing led by Pottu Amman (it is not clear if he is dead or alive) is believed to be against Pathmanathan; the Sri Lankan Diaspora is also divided between these two, and this fight for power and leadership, and division in diaspora, have become a cause for concern for the Church, which has been the main force behind the LTTE.
In this connection, on 28 May 2009, Fr. Jegath Gasper Raj, a controversial Christian clergy and co-founder of the Chennai-based “Tamil Maiyyam,” sent an appeal through tamilcanadian.com to the Diaspora to unite so that a broader Tamil renaissance could be ‘ignited’. He said, “In the immediate next phase the Government of Sri Lanka will unleash a hidden war, more treacherous than the one it let loose in Mullaitivu, to break the unity and political consolidation of the Diaspora. I am sure the Diaspora has the moral capacities to withstand a dirty political war by the Sri Lankan Government. But what can shatter the hopes of a dignified political solution will be the unravelling of LTTE. Let’s concede that the massive military debacle would certainly have created serious gaps in LTTE’s command structure. I get a disturbing feeling that there is already an unseen power struggle among certain sections of the LTTE for the control of the organization and its vast resources. We can expect that intelligence agencies of various countries will welcome this development and do everything to hasten these divisions”.
(tamilcanadian.com/page.php?cat=357&id=5760
This letter clearly shows the Christian mind, which wants to keep the Diaspora under its control, worries about the power struggle in the LTTE, and doesn’t want the LTTE to unravel. Gaspar Raj is well connected with the ‘Dravidian’ politicians of Tamil Nadu, which goes to prove that the “Dravidian-Christian” nexus is the brain behind the call for separate “Tamil Eelam.” While the Christian leadership successfully alienates the Sri Lankan Tamil Diaspora from the Indian Tamil-Hindu Diaspora, the Dravidian leadership, which travels abroad to the west quite often, always makes it a point to visit only the Sri Lankan Tamils and not the Indian Tamils, who are normally seen with other “Hindu” communities of India.
Dubious Tamil organisations
The LTTE has many organizations in the name of Tamil, which act as fronts, indulging clandestinely in fund-raising and arms purchasing. When the FBI arrested some pro-LTTE activists in New York and New Jersey areas two years ago, the US authorities identified and cited the various proxy organizations of the LTTE in their criminal complaint in the district court in Brooklyn.
Ilankai Thamil Sangam, New Jersey; World Tamil Coordinating Committee (WTCC), New York; Tamil Rehabilitation Organisation (TRO), and Tamil Welfare and Human Rights Committee (TWHRC), Maryland were some of the organizations which helped the LTTE in fund-raising and arms purchasing activities. All these organizations have been cited in various chargesheets filed by US authorities in courts of law. These organizations are also part of “The Federation of Tamil Sangams,” founded in 1986, and comprising more than 30 Sangams (Associations) in the United States.
As “serving” the cause of “human rights” has always been a modus operandi of Christian missionaries, such human rights organizations based in the US have taken up the cause of the above-said Pro-LTTE Tamil organizations. The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) is believed to have fought against the American Judiciary and US Congress in support of these Tamil organizations which help LTTE achieve the hidden agenda. Similarly the California based Humanitarian Law Project and the Centre for Constitutional Rights (CCR) also supported these Tamil organizations. Nancy Chang, Senior Attorney at CCR, is an open LTTE supporter. Likewise, Professor David Cole of the George Town University Law School has been a spokesman for LTTE on American soil.
(asiantribune.com/index.php?q=node/1733).
The above said ‘Tamil’ organizations have also been active in countries such as UK, Canada, France, Italy, Denmark and Australia, etc. The FBI has also accused the Sri Lankan Tamil diaspora in Australia of helping the LTTE.
(dnaindia.com/world/report_fbi-accuses-tamils-in-australia-of-helping-ltte_1050734 and priu.gov.lk/ltte_report/chapter7.html).
The Norway branch of the Tamil Coordinating Committee (TCC) admitted at a press conference on 13 June 2009 that it had been raising funds for LTTE to purchase arms and weapons (nowpublic.com/world/money-tiger-terror-came-norway-tcc).
The International Tamil Centre, another front organization of the LTTE, was started by one Dr. Winston Panchacharam of New York; it celebrated its third anniversary in Chennai on 8 June 2009. Dr. Winston Panchacharam brought two Americans with him, Bruce Fein, US lawyer and specialist in international law, counsel for Tamils against genocide; and Francis Boyle, American expert on international law, to ‘lecture’ on the occasion.
Sudha Ragunathan, a leading Carnatic singer and ‘local head’ of the ITC, organized the event along with her colleague and local secretary Manimekalai Kannan. The main speakers at the inaugural function were known ‘Dravidian’ ideologues Dr. Ramachandran, Vice Chancellor of Madras University and R.M. Veerappan, former minister and President of MGR Kazhagam. Though both speakers spoke about the glory and antiquity of Tamil language and Tamil culture, they refrained from talking about the Sri Lankan Tamil issue. As the theme of the conference was “Rehabilitation of Sri Lankan Tamils,” a seminar on the subject was held wherein Prof. V. Suryanarayan, South Asia and Southeast Asia specialist, and Bhagwan Singh, Consulting Editor, Deccan Chronicle, participated apart from the two Americans, Francis Boyle and Bruce Fein.
At the inauguration, both Dr. Ramachandran and R.M. Veerappan refrained from using the ‘H’ word (Hindu) despite waxing eloquent on the glory of Tamil language and culture. Similarly, in the seminar, none of the speakers mentioned the ‘Hinduness’ of Sri Lankan Tamils. They openly voiced concern for the cause of the LTTE, that is, a separate “Tamil Eelam.” They termed the Sri Lankan military operation against the LTTE as “genocide,” but preferred to remain silent on LTTE’s atrocities, particularly its use of innocent civilians as a ‘shield’ and forced recruitment of children as frontline soldiers and suicide bombers.
Both American speakers expressed ‘concern’ about the post-war scenario and power struggle and called for ‘unity’ among Tamils (read LTTE and Diaspora). They asked India to support the cause of separate Tamil Eelam. The ‘Liberation Song for Tamil Eelam’ was also sung by the organizers.
(ustream.tv/recorded/1624605, ustream.tv/recorded/1624968,
ustream.tv/recorded/1624952, ustream.tv/recorded/1624911,
ustream.tv/recorded/1624753).
The International Tamil Centre has been classified as a charitable organisation (cultural and ethnic awareness) and has enjoyed tax exemption as of May 2002.
(taxexemptworld.com/organizations/nanuet-ny-new-york.asp). It is a wonder then that it celebrated its ‘third anniversary’ this year! The organisation’s website could not be accessed, as its security certificate is either invalid or expired. So it is not clear when this organization came into being and interestingly ‘Tamil Maiyyam’ was started in July 2002. The non-participation of ‘Tamil Maiyyam’ and the absence of Father Jagath Gaspar Raj were noticeable in the Chennai event marking the third anniversary of ITC.
Dubious organizations like International Tamil Centre and Tamil Maiyyam use a devious strategy of roping in famous personalities from the field of fine arts to participate in their events by pressurizing them using their political power, so that their events get some sort of genuineness and credibility. And if those personalities happen to be ‘faithful Hindus,’ it adds more value to the events. Such personalities become party to these events without knowing the hidden motives behind them.
Also, if such events are organized with the full support of the government of the day, these personalities participate out of fear as well! Tamil Maiyam has been organizing such events on a regular scale with the advent of the DMK government. It may be recalled that Tamil Maiyam’s Jagath Gaspar Raj was alleged to be an associate of Nachimuthu Socrates, who was arrested by FBI on charges of fund-raising for LTTE and bribing a US State Official to remove LTTE from the list of blacklisted organisations way back in 2006. The website socratesdefensefund.org/ is still alive to raise funds for his legal defense.
Towards the end of May 2009, The Times, London, reported that 20,000 civilians were killed during the final offensive by the Sri Lankan Army against the Tamil Tigers. This report came as a blessing in disguise for the ‘Tamil’ organizations which were sulking after the defeat of the LTTE, rejuvenating their blood and making them to conduct protest demonstrations in the respective host countries, demanding a thorough probe and necessary action against Sri Lanka for its ‘war crimes.’ In countries like UK and Canada, many parliamentarians came out in support of the demonstrators, who were obviously pro-LTTE.
Sri Lanka vs. Western Nations
The Times’ report, which came after the official visit of UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon to Sri Lanka, quoted two UN officials saying that Ban was aware of the death of 20,000 Tamil civilians. This report, along with a video clipping, raised a furore in the international arena, particularly among western nations which demanded a probe on the ‘war crimes’ of Sri Lanka.
The UN Human Rights Council (UNHRC) demand was rejected by the Sri Lankan government. When UNHRC convened a special session in Geneva, where Sri Lanka and the European nations led by Germany put out competing resolutions, the Sri Lankan resolution justifying its military action against the world’s biggest terrorist organization sailed through, defeating the European resolution for a thorough probe into the ‘war crimes’ of the Sri Lankan military. India supported Sri Lanka along with China, Russia and Pakistan.
While slowly focusing on the rehabilitation of internally displaced Tamils, the Sri Lankan government is taking necessary action to thwart any attempts by the Tigers to regroup and restart terror activities. Colombo is determined to demolish the international network of arms and drug mafia with which the LTTE is widely connected. The government is aware of shady organizations having a foothold in countries like US, UK, Canada, France, Germany and other European capitals, indulging in fund-raising to revive the LTTE. As the Sri Lankan government requested help from the US and European countries to apprehend the concerned pro-LTTE persons and organizations, an LTTE operator Karunakaran Kandasamy and three others were arrested by US authorities.
But Colombo is unhappy with the non-cooperation of Canada and European countries like UK, France, Germany and others. These countries covertly encourage the Diaspora and other LTTE front organizations to protest against the Sri Lankan government and try to implicate Sri Lanka in ‘war crimes.’ The Sri Lankan government charged that demonstrations by diaspora in European countries were funded by the LTTE and aided and abetted by the host governments. Though US helped in taking legal action against pro-LTTE elements, it also joined European nations in their ‘measures’ against the Sri Lankan government.
Even during the most recent operations, the Sri Lankan military is believed to have uncovered evidence of the connivance of NGOs and Human Rights Organisations (many owing allegiance to the UN) with Tigers in vehicle supply and material support. Very recently, the Army apprehended two UN staffers who were reported missing earlier. Reliable sources report that some Christian organizations have allegedly bribed individual military officials and managed to allow LTTE’s intelligence officers to escape from refugee camps and flee the country. In connection with this and other reports of clandestinely assisting the LTTE, seven army personnel have been detained by the Sri Lankan Military Intelligence Unit
(tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29613).
Meanwhile, Selvarasan Pathmanathan, alias KP, set up a committee comprising mostly Christians to formulate the constitution of a ‘Transnational Government of Tamil Eelam’ (TGTE), with a view to fight for the self-determination of Sri Lankan Tamils and safeguard the interests of the Sri Lankan Tamil Diaspora. As he has been a proclaimed criminal and fugitive in Sri Lanka and is also wanted by Interpol, this initiative is intended to gain some kind of credibility in the international arena and to make the million strong diaspora fall in line behind him. He has been successful in roping in experts from various fields, who have been active in US, Canada, UK, Sweden, Australia, Malaysia and Netherlands giving ‘voice’ to the LTTE, as members of the committee. Prof. Francis Boyle, who was in Chennai in association with the International Tamil Centre, is a member of this committee. The Sri Lankan government has rejected this attempt of KP, terming it a ‘hallucination.’
Considering the fact that western nations and the diaspora are trying to revive the call for separate Eelam by supporting the LTTE, despite its defeat and the elimination of Prabhakaran and the top leadership, Sri Lanka refused permission to the Tiger-sponsored relief carrying vessel MV Captain Ali after it entered Sri Lankan waters illegally. Though the ship was chartered in the name of “Mercy Mission to Vanni,” it was sponsored by an organization called “Act Now,” a pro-LTTE Christian organization. Ultimately due to the influence of the Indian government, Colombo agreed to accept the consignments through the Red Cross.
The Church and other Christian organizations allegedly utilizing the Sinhala-Tamil divide, which is their own creation, have been supporting the LTTE to bring down the majority Buddhist religion and the largest minority Hindu religion. The LTTE is believed to have a large number of Christians highly placed in the hierarchy including the deceased Prabhakaran, Anton Balasingham and others; a considerable portion of supporting Tamils and Diaspora are also Christian. It is no secret that the LTTE has been backed by the Church and is part of a neo-colonial conspiracy; mainstream international media has conveniently forgotten to present LTTE’s Christian leanings. Many members of the Christian clergy have acted as front men for LTTE and Fr. S.J. Emmanuel, former Vicar General of Jaffna, is a prime example; at present he lives in Germany helping LTTE’s Eelam cause.
(freetruth.50webs.org/D4g.htm)
A Sri Lankan Tamil Hindu social worker, affiliated to ‘Seva Lanka,’ a national social service institution, who is helping the poor and downtrodden in Vavuniya and Kilinochchi revealed that, “Prabhakaran enforced burials to replace cremations, enforced Dravidian weddings to replace the Hindu marriage ceremony, introduced so called Dravidian names to replace Hindu names, and recommended beef eating.” He added, “He [Prabhakaran] was perhaps never in charge, as someone else shrewder was running the show and that individual or institution disappeared and Prabhakaran alone made mistake after mistake, leading to his eventual death”.
The social worker said the Bishop of Mannar, Rayappu Joseph, the Bishop of Jaffna, Thomas Savundranayagam, and the Bishop of Batticaloa, Kingsley Swampillai, exerted disproportionate influence on the LTTE and recalled that Prabhakaran named his son ‘Charles Anthony’ after his dead comrade, and Tamilchelvam (political commissar of the LTTE – original name Dinesh) named his son ‘Oliventhan,’ meaning prince of light (Jesus?) and his daughter ‘Alai Arasi,’ queen of the waves which is the name for Britannia, all Christian names in the garb of Tamil. The social worker painfully exclaimed, “Ironically most Tamils are Hindus!”
Meanwhile, Prof. P. Pushparatnam, Head of the Department of History, University of Jaffna, has found a 19th century Tamil-Christian epitaph on the tomb of one Ales Francis Cruz, died 1827. Prof. Pushparatnam read the text as “1827 (in Tamil numerals) Thai month 27th date (in Tamil numerals and symbols for month and date) Naakapad’nam Aariyar Ales Piraagnchis Kurus.”
It was a tomb of a Christian, Ales Francis Cruz, from Naakappadinam on the Coromandal coast of Tamil Nadu, who died on the 27th date of the Tamil month Thai (Jan-Feb) of the year 1827. The Professor referred to the 19th century dictionaries for the word “Aariyar” (Arya in Sanskrit) meaning “foreigner” or “a person of a foreign faith” and said, “the epitaph comes out with the title ‘Aariyar’ for the deceased probably to indicate his Christian faith, priesthood or to indicate that he was a Christian of foreign (European) origin even though coming from Naakappaddinam”.
(tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29624)
This is clear evidence of the Church’s ‘Aryan-Dravidian’ propaganda in Tamil Nadu and also of its larger agenda and long-term plan of forming a “Tamil Christian Nation” comprising Tamil Nadu and the North-East of Sri Lanka. No wonder, this news is given importance and published in pro-LTTE website “Tamilnet”.
Conclusion
A deeper study of Sri Lankan history shows that the Sinhala-Tamil divide was created by the Portuguese after they landed on the shores of Sri Lanka. In due course of time, they captured the island nation and converted a large number of people, more Tamils than Sinhalese, as Tamils were weak and humble, without strong leadership. They demolished hundreds of Hindu Temples and Buddhist Viharas. Sri Lankan historians believe that the Island would have become completely Christian had the Portuguese continued. The Dutch and the British continued the evil legacy of the Portuguese and the same has been followed till date by the Church. The LTTE leadership, the Diaspora leadership, and the so-called ‘Tamil’ organizations are all under the control of Christian organizations backed by the Church.
Those ‘Tamil’ organizations have done nothing for the welfare of either the Sri Lankan Tamils or the Diaspora, but served only as ‘fronts’ for the LTTE, helping it in fund-raising and arms purchasing. Ironically, the majority of Sri Lankan Tamils and Sri Lankan Diaspora is “Hindu.” While Tamil Hindus in Sri Lanka have been released and relieved from the LTTE and the Church, thanks to the determined efforts of the Rajapakse government, the ‘Hindu’ section of the Diaspora is still in the clutches of the LTTE and the Church. As the Church is aware of its limitations within the island nation, it is using its might to the full to revive the LTTE and keep the Eelam cause alive by egging on the Diaspora with the support of governments in various western countries.
Make no mistake; LTTE and Eelam are purely ‘Christian;’ nothing ‘Hindu’ or ‘Tamil’ about them.
It seems that converts to
It seems that converts to Baptist and Catholics from formerly Hindu places are as bad as muslims. It seems that the converts really converted to Roman christianity not the Christianity of Jesus as Jesus told christians to love not kill.
If the Baptist are doing it is is in the likeness of the islamic and Roman hordes not from the Bible of Jesus. They are all from Satan as Satan is the one who said kill each other. It is obvious that Jesus never said kill anyone in fact he died for man and he could have killed them all. Jesus said "Father forgive them for they know not what they do." Blaming Christianity is a error, blame the Baptist or Catholics not Jesus or Christianity of Jesus. Roman Universalism is to blame. Even when the apostles wanted to fight, Jesus said he who lives by the sword dies by the sword.
Lord Vishnu, save this
Lord Vishnu,
save this world. I am really afraid that the next world war will be between the
rational, skeptic & atheistic remnants of the western world & fringe elements of other Isreal & east asian countries like, China & India, against largely muslim America, arab world & Europe, which cast disaster to some portion of the humanity (non-muslims) & finally the eventual cleansing of non muslims. Later the infighting among different factions of islam & eventual annihiliation of humanity... seems to be pretty pecimistic view of the future.
I hope, the western world would rather of have embraced 'Vedas' & 'Bhagawad Gita' to save this humanity rather than opting for 'rational thinking, sceptism & aatheism, as the above mentioned elements simply doesnt have the strength to
fight the 'islamic advance'.....
Its a known fact of history, that even though the medieval India didnt follow any oof the abrahamic faiths, which are hell bent of accusing hindus of idolatory & other sins like polythesim, the India under the influence of wisdom of 'Vedas' & itits conclusion the bhagawad-gita was strong enough to check the islam & christianity at its borders till date.
The vedas & the Bhagawad-Gita were the first to affirm 'Tauheed', which was later incorporated in to 'Judaism, christianity & islam'.... So basically the quran is just following what Vedas & Bhagawad-Gita says.
For example:
Vedas make monogamy & celibacy for men in rare cases,
a better practice for having a good society. Please check out the world sex ratio
& what the anthropologists, scholars have to say about that...
Basically vedas have a key & solutions for all the sustainance of humanity, for
coming more years.....
We dont want to have a situation in the coming centuries, where atheists like Mr.Ali sina & other skeptics & rationalists are put in a situation to go underground & not even speak up & raise their voices in public, & are completely silenced by islamic world, till the end of the world...
Because, there is no chance that everybody on the earth, will one day stop beleiving in God,, atleast in the near future... Because we simply dont have the answer for how the life exists on this earth & who sustains it, some logical answer by any of the free thinkers or scientific community....
So pit the 'strongest form of civilized theism( Monotheism) of Vedas(Bhagawad-Gita), against the barbaric half truth of Islam.
The battle will be won decisively with less loss of human life on the face of this earth & atleast the humanity will be saved.
Ofcourse the Vedas do tolerate different school of thought & do promise the liberty, freedom & democracy for the world.
Remember that 'Bhagawad Gita' was told by the Lord himself to the human in distress, with in a duration of couple of hours ( absolutely no time gap in between). I mean basically its not a function of time, unlike the filthy & corrupted 'Quran' which was depending on circumstances & situations of 'Muhammad'.
Because 'Lord' is time, as he describes in Bhagawad-Gita, & the time itself was telling it to the humans....
Long live humanity (still 4,27,000 years to go for this yug)......& I urge the western world & Europe to embrace the Vedas asap, to save yourselves.....
Krishna's will, it will happen....
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"Nepalitano prefers the
"Nepalitano prefers the designation “man-made disasters” to terrorism."
I say:
Islam is one big man-made disaster because it is the man-made religion of a madman and criminal, the holy prophet Muhammed.
US and western world doesnt
US and western world doesnt want a united and strong India.
Islam was used very effectively to divide india, also British and others wanted to divide India based on chistianity. Tripura was and is an integral part of India. While western world is shedding the church controled christianity but the church controled christianity is causing havoc in africa and asia. Just like mullahs give fatwa to its followers, similarly the christian popes and bishops.
India is united because of hinduism, its not based on some 'revelations' given 2000 or 1400 years ago , but on 'reasoning'. Why god can come only once as 'jesus' or in the name of 'allah'? What happened to millions of years before and after. Hindus respect learning as goddess of learning, respect cows as apart from mother only cow's milk, butter and curd is very helpful for humans. Why to kill such an innocent animal?
Infact if evangelists are using there money power to convert muslims then its good, as islam is pure barbarism and also there are many critical thinkers are there in western world who although have christian names but keep christianity in control and see that popes or bishops keep away from the hateful idiology towards non-christians (aka heathens).
Even many chrsitians consider Sri Krishna, Lord Buddha, Socrates, confucian as satans which makes them fools. Christianity cant be successful in india as hinduism is like ocean it can absorb rivers like christianity, buddhism etc and be more beautiful.
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I've said it before and I
I've said it before and I will say it again. You will always get good and bad people in each religion. You will have devout, and those that just take the label for whatever reason. There are christians who will NOT do what is Christ like, and that makes them bad christians...not faulty Christianity. HOWEVER, you can have a devout muslim, one who follows the footsteps of mohammad, and you get one who wants to kill people...burn temples, stone infidels, etc. Islam's DOGMA, it's CORE is severely FLAWED. THAT is why I have have problems with islam in general.
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Thanks there were many
Thanks there were many 'freethinkers' like 'galileo', 'newton', 'da vinci' etc were born and religion was separated from politics, science and other fields. No person should be forced to be bound by one or many books. The sprituality is a persons indivudual quest.
Infact western world is now really secular and rejected many dogmas of the religion. No doubt Islam is the biggest humanity's challenge and pope should do interfaith dialogue with other non-muslim faiths and try to build a coalition to check the advance of this ugly faith. If a christian is harassed in say pakistan its nicely projected, let if a hindu or buddhist also killed or harassed then they should also be projected.
Christians should know that other non-muslims are not there enemy but friends.
Islam specifically targeted Christianity and Judaism and many verses prove this.
May be Islam will be the reason that other faiths will unite and then tackle this barbarism with reason, morality and justice.
#41 Why such hated toward the
#41 Why such hated toward the Xtians. Dalits were not even allowed in Hindu temples and you wonder why they went Xtians. The caste for 4000 years and you wonder why Dalits and sidi are not Hindus. Then African-Indians are not even allowed to be Untouchables. I agree that if they are wrong just say so. It is not wrong when Hindu do evil nor dalits. But fair is fair. Was it fair what Hindus did to the Dalits? for 4000 yrs. no. Dalits suffered for many years under Hindu rule and then Hindu claim to be so nice. Wrong is Wrong. Islam for 1500 years have killed and destroyed Hindu temples yet you treated them better than the Dalits who were victims of Hindu and Muslims hatred.
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Corruption in government is a
Corruption in government is a common problem all over the world. Again this is another desperate attempt by the corpse worshiper to compare social problems and corruption to 20-30 years of terrorist activities...
Stupid corpse worshipers have nothing better.
Pak terrorists fire rockets
Pak terrorists fire rockets at Punjab border villages
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Pak-terrorists-attack-Indian-vi...
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***How about Sheikh Abdul
***How about Sheikh Abdul Rahman Al Sudais, who – as imam of Mecca’s Grand Mosque — holds the most prestigious Moslem pulpit in the world?
In a 2003 sermon, Al Sudais prayed that Allah would “terminate” the Jews, who he called “the scum of humanity, the rats of the world, prophet killers … pigs and monkeys,” also “evil,” “tyrannical,” ‘treacherous,” and part of a “continuum of deceit.”***
don't get them wrong, they too, always reminding themselve of how peacefull islam is, after finished friday pray
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proudkafir, I know a couple
proudkafir,
I know a couple of Hindus from India. One is trying to be an American Citizen. What does he talk about? Christians throwing rocks at their place of worship? Beatings of Hindus performed by Christian? Nope, he sees first hand muslims coming out of mosques, all pissed off and throwing rocks at the Hindu temples, at the Hindus themselves. He talks about the fights that erupt between the growing islamic population in India and the Hindus.
Make all the jabs that you want to at Christianity. Christ was mocked, spit at, whipped, tortured, and finally killed for you, me, all of us. Christians are taught to turn the other cheek. We will be mocked the same, and so will our religion. Doesn't mean we won't defend it with words, but not with violence. My 'dusty' cross isn't 'dusty' at all, but believe what you want. In the end, I will say my 2 cents, spend my day pretty much happy, say my prayers, and go to bed, sleeping soundly with the thought that what I believe in (WHO I believe in) is right. But,hey, this is not a 'christian' forum. This place is about all the flaws of Islam....the many....many flaws of Islam.
Now Ihave doubt about the
Now Ihave doubt about the moderator he allows rubbish, unrelated , lenghty copy pastes from hindu bigots and deletes anything, which refutes it.
LTTE Leader prabhakaran was a hindu and a devotee of hindu god Murukan.
he was a much influenced by bhagavath Githa.now the resident fascist hindu wants to preempt any linkage between hindu terorism and ltte so comes up with garbage as usual
Matrix, you religious affiliation is of no concern to me. However if you make irrelevant or stupid posts they will be taken off. We don't care what religion you belong to, if you don't adhere to FFI norms your comments will be taken off. You can can rant as much as you like but it really is not going to help you here in FFI. We believe in quality and quantity. So post only if you have something worthwhile to say.
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"Make all the jabs that you
"Make all the jabs that you want to at Christianity. Christ was mocked, spit at, whipped, tortured, and finally killed for you, me, all of us. Christians are taught to turn the other cheek. We will be mocked the same, and so will our religion. Doesn’t mean we won’t defend it with words, but not with violence. My ‘dusty’ cross isn’t ‘dusty’ at all, but believe what you want. In the end, I will say my 2 cents, spend my day pretty much happy, say my prayers, and go to bed, sleeping soundly with the thought that what I believe in (WHO I believe in) is right. But,hey, this is not a ‘christian’ forum. This place is about all the flaws of Islam….the many….many flaws of Islam."
Now that is a good Christian!. But the problem with the majority Christians is that they want to thrust their 2000 year old corpose in the throats of Hindus, Buddhists, Jains etc. in the NE, otherwise there wont be any problem at all. A hindu is born, not made that is there is no 'baptism' or 'shahada' for a corpose beleiver or a pedophile believer to become a hindu. We don't proselytise. Any one who leads a life as described in Vedas or the essence of it, the Bhagavad Gita, is a hindu. and the essence of it is Ahimsa i.e. non-violence not just to humans but to all living beings.
Moderator, there is no doubt that history proves that the corpse worshippers are as dangerous to humanity as the mass murderer, pedophile, misogenic, megalomaniac 'holy' prophet Mo.
As one poster said, "you will
As one poster said, "you will always find good and bad people in any religion, race and countries around the world.".
However, the difference is this:
One make it the word of "ALLAH",
the other is misguided.
In India, there seems to be
In India, there seems to be violence and tensions between all groups.
For a more balanced(?) picture see:
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/6415790/Religious_violence_in_India
I also wonder how much of this is like the situation [previously] in Northern Ireland, where the "Catholic" IRA battled the "Protestant" UDF and UDA.
Although the battles were drawn up along religious lines, the argument was really political:
Should Northern Ireland be part of the UK or part of Eire?
Where Islam seems unique to me is in its international dimension. ie. Saudi Nationals in 9/11, Arab Doctors in the Glasgow airport attack etc.
Most of the other situations (no matter how heinous and wrong) seem to involve "local" arguments.
#42 Jesus is ALIVE not a
#42 Jesus is ALIVE not a corspe. Muslims said that crap. Jesus is not dead. Muhammad is a pedo and a dead one.
...right, of course you
...right, of course you wouldn't "research other religions", you are too busy rabidly attacking anything Islam or Muslim related (Is this Islam related now, Mr. Moderator?).
I'd think since you compare Christianity and Judaism to Islam in this article, you'd at least exercise perhaps an iota of journalistic integrity.
Thanks for affirming my suspicions as to what kind of site this is.
#46 FFI is a good site. iF
#46 FFI is a good site. iF iSLAM ATTACKS US WHY CANT WE DEFEND OURSELVES AND WARN OTHERS. For 1500 years Islam has killed degraded enslaved and sexed kids you only need to read. Watch the little girls killing themselves because of Islam.
I now know of two Christian
I now know of two Christian terror groups.
This one in India and the "The Lords Resistance Army" in Uganda I think.
Both are to be condemned out-of-hand, with no rationalisations, justifications or any other apologetics.
The only reason I've returned to this is that another fact about both these organisations came together in my mind:
The Tripura group: based in Bangladesh, supported by Bangladesh and Pakistan (according to the reports mentioned here).
The LRA: Trained, based and supplied by Sudan.
Now, what is the common factor?
"Thanks for affirming my
"Thanks for affirming my suspicions as to what kind of site this is."
Ahhh, another muslim poped out!!! Hey, seriously. Did you not see the tagline below this site which read:
"We aim to promote human rights and democracy among Muslims.
We oppose Islam, not Muslims. We are against hate, not faith"
So before you acting like a detective, suspecting here and there, why don't you use your obvious organ of sight called the eyes. Because if you missed that tagline you have a real problem with your eyes. Oh, by the way no need to talk about another religions because another site already done that. Muslim site also have that (islamic behavior of insulting, cursing, boasting to another religions).
Jesus said if people dont
Jesus said if people dont want to accept the gospel move on. If the Hindu want to become christian why cant they. Is Hindusim like Islam cant change religion or die. It seems that way.