America’s Islamist President

Mr Ali,
this is a very nice article from you, indeed his citations of Quran give an insight into his islamic upbringing This guy(Obama) is a phony. He is against outsourcing but he gives 100 million dollars of american taxpayers' money to a terrorist country like pakistan, to build up security around their nuclear reactors which i think the pakistanis will use to produce more nuclear weapons against india.
According to CIA the american economic aid to pakistan has been utilized by the country to build up conventional army.
Mr Obama talks about islams contribution to science, doesn't he remeber the way pakistanis treated dr Abdus Salam(1st muslim noble laureate) just because he belonged to a minority group. In fact islamic innvasions have always subdued the growth of science(example india or BHARAT , iran or PERSIA)

For his benefit he takes up different identities like follower of gandhian principles to gather votes of pacifists, he carried a human(hindu monkey god) idol to get help of rich hindu Indians in America.
He also becomes a christian and a muslim when gets the right opportunity. You are absolutely correct Mr Ali this person has no identity or multiple identities(God knows which one of the 2 is right)

Dear Ali

I think many Americans have woken up to the fact that Obama is a scumbag, however they are not willing to concede this fact.
Obama will loose the next time around but by that time he would have harmed the American heritage like no other. All these centuries of hardwork, struggle and the blood of the American patriots will go in vain.

Ibrahim, In four years America will be a bankrupt country with millions of unemployed people. Crime, homicide and suicide will skyrocket. The coming years will be the worst years of American history. This will make rogue countries bold and the world will be a very unstable place. Thanks to America’s complete collapse, everyone will suffer huge financial loses and the world will be in crisis. Great calamities will befall to millions of people across the world. We cannot wait four years. This jerk must be removed. He is illegal and if his stupid supporters wake up, he can be removed and put in jail legally for treason. Many Democrats should be sent to prison for treason.

/////Sarcasm on >>>>>

What a great, inspiring and historic speech to the Muslim world by Obama.

Sarcasm off/////

Now we wait with bated breath for his inspiring speeches addressed to the Christian world, the Buddhist world, the Hindu world, the Atheist world, the …… what’s that, no special speeches to the rest of us? Why ever not? Why this servile pandering only to the Muslim world? Surely it is not because violence and threats really do work?

As Ali Sina has already pointed out, Obowma is like a chameleon but I think he is still majorly a muslim, a practising muslim who believes in Ummah. Going by the way he is bending before Saudi's, sending truckloads of money to Hamas and PA and Pakistan and his new statements on kashmir, I would suspect that he is a trojan in whitehouse which stupid American's themselves installed.

Nostradamus Barack Hussein Obama Prophecy
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0coVXkPu4Yk&feature=related

to Mr Ali Sina #4

if that's the case of america as predicted by Mr Ali, the whole world could be in total chaos without somebody to check on terrorism and violence that will occur simultaneously. the most fearful thing is when opportunist take advantage of the situation then usurp and eliminate freedom of humanity once and for all.

does that mean islam is winning and gaining ground due to the baffoon stupidity? i could not imagine living in a world of islamic barbaric authority. i mean, i do not want to see a world war 3.

Humanity is but one family. :)

Ali, I know what you are saying is true and unfortunately I don't even have a deity to fall back upon, because everything that has happend after Obama became President are pointing towards his being a proxy.
All these years of confidence building between India and USA have come to a naught, all because of Obama's stupid policies. Like a true Leftist he believes that he can create jobs by taking away the jobs of Indians.
If he thinks this is going to work then he is mistaken.

I feel that no matter what, Bush was a million times better than this foool Obama. I feel really sad, when I think of these years that India and USA spent to become allies and for what?
Obama policy on Kashmir made it pretty clear that he is with the Islamists. Futhermore his conditional Aid to Pakistan is a big sham. He knows very well that this money will go into funding the Pakistani terror camps.
I also don't understand as to why can't he use all this money to create job opportunities in the USA.

Is there chance for humanity to survive in the face of relentless attack by mozzies of moderate and extremist nature????
What will happen to human civilization if entire world becomes mozzies??????
I think civilization will end along with plants and animals....

God save us from mozzies

Currently thehe Obama administration is modifying the CTBT. It wants India and Israel to sign the treaty(since India has signed the nuclear deal with America). In that way, they will bring an end to Indian nuclear arsenal . I read this in NEWSWEEK magazine. Why no CTBT with Pakistan?.

Read the Obama's speech of Cairo, where he has clearly proclaimed " He is a Christian" yet he is behaving and acting like any normal Muslim Mullah. Which proves both the killing Cults Islam and Christianity have only some spelling difference only nothing else. Ha Ha Ha

It is ironic that Obama's harshest criticism is coming from Taliban and their supporters or orthodox Jews and Evangelical Christians.
He must be saying something right.
Head for the hills End of Times is near. :)

Mr ali sinna
for a change i agree to disagree with you on obama,
i think he is reliable liberal without a doubt.

Ali Sina should be President, not Obama.
Who knows, maybe some day we'll have a President who does his homework and talks sense about Islam.

Again I was in agreement with many of Ali Sina's comments on the june4th speech. But I live in Holland, among many multi-culturalists, culture-relativists, leftists, ignorant people. And we in Holland, like Geert Wilders, have to pick our arguments well, otherwise we'll lose debates, and maybe justly so. For that reason I like us to think strategically on safe ground.

I know of the injustice and foul acts being perpetrated by a part of the Muslims, from high to low. And I know of the growing numbers of Muslims, especially in India and the Western countries. So I perceive a global threat, and am very pleased with this site that opposes and scrutinizes Islam, giving the world very valuable information. Already having a great influence, even on how many Muslims nowadays view the Hadiths.

But when our opponents, Muslims, Political correct people AND ignorants argue, then I feel that I must admit a lot of what of they are saying is true, or likely. Which boils down to the idea that the whole of mankind is fallible, that followers of all faiths are committing foul acts, doing injustice, and this was so in the last 2000 years.

But still I think that there are many better ways of life than Islam, better for persons, the people around them and the world as a whole. Ali Sina has in my opinion a good goal.

But there are many people in the middle, between us and our real enemies; the Islamic clerical, governmental, military leaders who denounce democracy; the leaders of Iran, Saudi Arabia, Al Qaida, Taliban, other dictatorial countries, groups etc. And attacking the people in the middle, the mainstream parties so fiercely I feel may be weakening our cause. If we are viewed as debunkers and protesters againsts most humans, leaders, parties, groups, then our opposition against Islam and part of its followers weakens I feel. We should be careful in picking our enemies, and preserve as many allies as possible, as nobody is perfect, I feel.

Ali sina considers mohammed a narcissit and yet he wants you guys to belive every word he says. For god sake obama has only been in power for a few months and just cause he has had a muslim up bringing ali sina already hates him. Just cause he quotes some verses from the quran to try and establish peace Ali sina already hates him.

This Ali sina is pathetic, anything in relation to islam whther it is good or bad ali sina has to comment and put a post up so he tries to influence you guys. Who is the real attention seeker here. HUH?.

Get a life man and stop criticizing everyone, look at yourself fr once. You promote lie after lie after lie. I am in the 4th chapter of your book (understanding muhammed) and i cant belive the amount of lies you put in that book. I got over 200 comments that i would like to discuss with you ali sina.

You say that America is going to get corrupt because of this leader. Whether he has alternate motives or not, he has done better than what bush has done in the last 8 years, which is making an effort. Not like bush statement your either with us or against us.

hello demsci
i fully agree with your comments,
i have read the worst of al quaran i know and shocked to tell the least about so much hatred about kafir,
still bracketing obama with that clan is in appropriate.

Londonspirit,

Some of us do not agree with Ali Sina's very harsh criticism of Obama.

But I feel even you have to admire a man who without hesitating lets you say all these damning statements on his own website! Even about his book! Which is much more than most or all of the Islamic websites are willing to tolerate.

And you still seem not to have grasped the reason why he is doing what he is doing, from which hell-hole he came. You insult our intelligence time and again by assuming that we have some hate-reasons and are such gullible people. But the truth is that we have big concerns about the growing power of Islam and the bad behavior of some of its followers and the injustice carried out in the name of Islam. The truth is that if you look for it you will notice that many of FFI-visitors have a vast amount of knowledge and insight. The truth is that the followers basically only ask for equal treatment with Muslims, in ALL nations, in the 21st centuries and do not want to dominate it, if left alone.

Now even if those concerns turn out to be only imagined, it still seems insensitive of you not to address our concerns and only berating us for studying the Islamic Holy Scriptures diligently and commenting on it, eagerly asking anyones opinion, even if it opposes ours.

When you show us verses, the you are very persuasive. But there are tiny differences between the translations you and our people give. There is difference of opinion about the circumstances and about if the Muslims were offensive or merely defensive, as you maintain.

There is thus confusion, and even more so among Muslims, about the initial meaning in Quran-Hadith. There are many different interpretations and practices by self-confessed Muslims, with the motivation of living according to Islamic rules.

Really, I feel Allah is cruel, to let this conundrum go on and on. I feel it is time HE cleared things up, if HE initiated the message of Muhammad. I believe there is enough reasonable doubt to acquit any kuffar or apostate from being sent to hell. At least for religious reasons.

I think it is too early to Judge him. He is only speaking , lets see what he does on the ground level. Do not forget that now Muslims are killing Muslims in Pakistan i.e Army v/s Taliban, not happened before. Let us give him more time.

13. ibnrushd
What he does matters, not what he says.

DEMSCI i dont think ali sina is reading any of my statements. It is a forum, i dont think the man has enough time to read everyones statement. You talk about islamic websites tolerating such arguments. Ask yourself the question. Are their any islamic sites that promotes hate on any other relgion?.

And even if there is how do you know it stops messages being published that are against islam.
I dont insult no ones intellegnece. Not at all. I am pretty sure the majority of people here are much wiser and cleverer than me. The only thing i try to do is correct misunderstandings. That is it. I have never used harsh words like a lot of people here has done and nor do i go to extremes and completely insult someones relgion because i have respect.

You think islam is a threat. I think not. If islam was such a threat than why havent muslims done anything about palestine, iraq or even afganistan. Most of them dont even have weapons. I mean palestine is considered by many people as a 4th world country and a 4th world doesnt even exist. That is how poor they are but yet isralies attacked them with destructive missles. You think muslims are the threat but you cant open your eyes to the people who manufacture destructive weapons and arms. Let me give you a list

U.S. Arms Exports

In 2001, total world arms transfer agreements were worth nearly $26.4 billion.[5] The United States led the world with 45.8% of all such agreements.[6] There are two primary channels through which U.S. arms manufacturers sell weaponry to foreign countries: Foreign Military Sales (FMS)and Direct Commercial Sales (DCS).

*

Foreign Military Sales: These are sales of U.S. weapons, spare parts, construction, and related services purchased by foreign governments via the U.S. Department of State . [Data covers actual deliveries of military equipment or services.]

FY2001 total: $12.2 billion (deliveries)
$13.1 billion (new contracts)
FY2000 total: $10.5 billion
$11.4 billion (new contracts)[7]

*

Direct Commercial Sales: These transfers are negotiated directly between the U.S. manufacturing company and the foreign buyers, and approved by the Department of State through the issuance of an export license.

FY2001 totals: $36.3 billion in licenses issued
$821.1 million in estimated deliveries*

FY2000 totals: $55.3 billion in licenses issued
$477.6 million in estimated deliveries

As you can see there is a huge deal of money involved in the arms trade and amercia exports the majority of arms. These arms dont only go to the usa military but also to these so called terrorists in iraq and other islamic nations. They are making money from peoples death. So who are the real danger people here. is the danger coming from the muslims or the americans themselves who provide the weapons to the muslims. Tell me DEMSCI. There are greedy people on this earth who will do anything for money.

LS I am really impressed with your answer, thank you.

Yes, it is certain Ali Sina has no time to read it all. Yes, I grudgingly admit that I assumed Islamic websites do not tolerate backtalk and I would be pleasantly surprised if they did. OK, I believe you about what you say not intending to insult our intelligence, but maybe you can credit us and Ali Sina with reasonable concerns.

You are to be commended for clearing up misunderstandings. And you are a valuable contributor to this site, I feel.

yes, you did use, sometimes reciprocally, very harsh words to forum-members. Most of all, you did use very harsh words about Ali Sina, the very founder of this website. But on the whole you are a respecting guy. But I still think respect is NOT the absence of criticism AND insults, but the balance of Criticism-Insults AND praise and support.

You still consider us irrational about our mistrust and fear, maybe we'll clear this up later. About Israeli's; If you are so sure about Islam's not being cause of bad behavior, injustice, than by the same token being Jewish is as innocent. Everything the Israeli's have done, by your own logic, has been done by followers of all other faits, all other peoples, including land-stealing. The Palestinians are victims? So were the Greeks driven from Turkey, but also the Indians, driven from their land. Extend the courtesy of culture-relativism also to the Israeli's, I beg you.

Probably true challenges to America, true what you said about the greed of many individuals in the Western world. Am in agreement in large part here, I see the threat you perceive and it is good to voice your concerns.

I suppose I feel that if we protect democracy democracy will protect us. But I suppose also criminals and greedy, unscrupulous arms-dealers ARE a threat, can be very dangerous, even to whole democracies. They are your and our common enemies. Maybe Muslims and followers of all other faiths should unite against THEM. But please, do it in DEMOCRACIES.

#17 Jah

“THE QUR’AN ON CHRISTIANS: THE QUR’AN IS THE ONLY NON-CHRISTIAN SCRIPTURE IN THE WORLD WHERE JESUS AND MARY HAVE BEEN HONORED WITH VERY HIGH RESPECT (3:42-55, 5:44-46, 5:110, 43:59, CHAPTER 19 ON MARY, ETC.), GOOD CHRISTIANS HAVE BEEN PRAISED AND THEY HAVE ALSO BEEN OFFERED SALVATION IF THEY FOLLOW THE TRUE TEACHINGS OF JESUS (2:62, 2:121-122, 3:113-115, 3:199, 5:65-66, 5:69, 5:82, 29:46, ETC.)

*THE VERSES 5:51 AND 3:28, WHERE MUSLIMS HAVE BEEN WARNED NOT TO TAKE SOME PEOPLE AS FRIENDS AND PROTECTORS, IN FACT REFER TO TERRORISTS, INTOLERANTS, SLANDERERS, AND HATERS ONLY, AND NOT ALL. SEE THE VERSES 5:57-59, 60:7-9, AND 3:118-120 FOR CLARIFICATION.”

This is because:

Koran is the Book which came after Christianity ,Judaism and other prominent religion, so it can talk about past religions. Koran should talk about salvation to its followers not to the Non Muslims, It should mind its own business.

The main question is that how one would decide that who is good and who is bad. Koran treats non Muslims as second grade Human being; for the same Crime, Islam advocates different punishment for different sects of people i.e. male, female, Muslims, Christians, Jews, Hindus and so on.

This should be more than enough for all of yours statements which you gave in the past and would give in the future.

So cut the xxxx and answer my question on the following forum:

http://www.faithfreedom.org/2009/06/10/distortion-of-indian-history-for-...

Thanks

#18 and #22 londonspirit,

That's right!

With United States aid... Israel's biggest supplier of fighter planes, weapons and other military technology. They are bombing the unarmed innocent knowing there will be no credible response ­the way all bullies operate.

Because the House of Rothschild controls Israel and the House of Rothschild controls the political system of the United States. The network that links the two is called 'Zionism', a Rothschild creation ­ just like Israel itself.

Oh, brave men of Israel; oh how Yahweh would be so proud:

'When the LORD your God hands these nations over to you and you conquer them, you must completely destroy them. Make no treaties with them and show them no mercy.'

Deuteronomy 7:1-4

What we are seeing in Gaza, and have seen so many times, both there and in the Lebanon, is merciless Old Testament slaughter: cold, calculated, heartless slaughter.

'So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin".'

Judges 21:10-24

'Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all ­ old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple".'

Ezekiel 9:5-7

'So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told.'

Ezekiel 9:5-7

The parallels are endless between the bloodthirsty 'God' of the Old Testament and the actions of the heartless, soulless, Artificial Intelligence that controls Israel, most notably the biological robots of the House of Rothschild who thus have no soul, no empathy, no more mercy for the consequences of their actions than a desktop computer.

As former Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, said:

'Israel may have the right to put others on trial, but certainly no one has the right to put the Jewish people and the State of Israel on trial.'

And Prime Minister Golda Meir betrayed the same Zionist arrogance:

'This country exists as the fulfilment of a promise made by God Himself. It would be ridiculous to ask it to account for its legitimacy.'

Ah, it's all in the Old Testament? Gotcha, right, well do as you like then.

And the world simply looked on ­ just as it does to this day ­ because Israel is a law unto itself and so terms like justice, fairness, decency and mercy do not apply.

Palestinian families fleeing the newly-imposed Israel after their country was occupied by Zionist terrorism in 1948.

Ibn Rushd, #13
Like all leftists you don’t seem to have much inkling towards facts. KKK supported Obama. Did you miss that? CAIR and all Muslim goons cheered for him. How much do you want to live in denial? The toughest critics of Obama are people like me and I am not an extremist, but as a humanist who cares for human life and human rights more than an ideology. Leftism is mental disorder. This is why you can’t distinguish facts from fiction. If you are the same Ibn Rushed (the girl) I know for years, I must say I am disappointed that after these many years you babble this much nonsense.

Obama is a demagogue. He fools people who can't go beyond superficiality and are impressed by his vacuous words. Only fools are impressed by this charlatan. In fact as many of them are coming to their senses and are realizing the mistake they have committed. Everyone will wake up eventually as they did with Hitler, but the dumbest of all will wait until the shit hits the fan.

DEMSCI i will not give credit to anyone who insults and lies about things just because that person doesnt like a certain aspect of something. I will not also give any credit to someone who promotes hatred. Its like you asking me to give credit to bush, who lied to get into iraq, by sayin such statements

Iraq will send a nuclear bomb to america within the next 45 minutes.

Where did this intellegence come from. or like issuing very powerful statements that can frighten any nation, which is you are either with us or against us.

I never said all isralies are bad. I belive there is good and bad in everyone but unlike alot of people here, when someone does something bad i dont blame religion rather i blame the individual.

Palestinians didnt steal land at all. That is their land. The zionists stole the land of the palestinians. And this is how much influence they have over everything. They have been constantly killing palestinains yet the USA does nothing to stop them.
They constantly take land from the palestinains yet the USA does nothing.

They constantly treat palestinians like animals but where is human rights and where is the USA.

during the battle recently they didnt allow any media into palestine so only god knows the demolitan they were causing. The only media that was reporting from inside gaza was their own media and even they got ambushed by the israili military. So where is democracry. And yet USA are still providing them with arms.

Since 1973, Israel has cost the United States about $1.6 trillion. If divided by today's population, that is more than $5,700 per person.

Why is USA supplying so much money to israel?

U.S. Financial Aid To Israel: Figures, Facts, and Impact
Summary

Benefits to Israel of U.S. Aid
Since 1949 (As of November 1, 1997)

Foreign Aid Grants and Loans
$74,157,600,000

Other U.S. Aid (12.2% of Foreign Aid)
$9,047,227,200

Interest to Israel from Advanced Payments
$1,650,000,000

Grand Total
$84,854,827,200

Total Benefits per Israeli
$14,630
Cost to U.S. Taxpayers of U.S.
Aid to Israel

Grand Total
$84,854,827,200

Interest Costs Borne by U.S.
$49,936,680,000

Total Cost to U.S. Taxpayers
$134,791,507,200

Total Taxpayer Cost per Israeli
$23,240

Recently interpal, which is one of the biggest charity organization primarily to support palestinians was cut of, because israel thought they were supplying funds to terrorists.90% of palestianins require aid and it is interpal which provides the majority of aid to these people. non imagine the consequencies of cutting of interpal.

"Obama chose the Islamic university of Al Azhar to deliver his speech to all the Muslims. He started talking about the tension between Islam and America."

Tension between Islam and America? What tension? Muslims are immigrating to America every year and nobody is stopping them from coming and making a new life in America. We allow them to build mosques, madrasahs, go to school, find a job, buy a home, start business, grant them religious accommodations in some places, and exc. What did they do in return? Recruit converts to commit terrorism, destroy the two towers, and the pentagon.

"Then Obama made a wrong diagnosis. He said, “The tension has been fed by colonialism that denied rights and opportunities to many Muslims, and a Cold War in which Muslim-majority countries were too often treated as proxies.”

Typical Islamist propaganda, the west is to blame for the Islamic world's problems.

"America and Islam are not exclusive. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles - principles of justice and progress; tolerance and the dignity of all human beings."

Where in America do you see women being stoned? Where in America do you see women covered from head to toe?

Where in America do you see women being prohibited from leaving the house, getting a job, going to school, and exc.

Where in America do you see nonbelievers being terrorized by members of a certain religion?

Where in America do you see old men marrying 6 year olds?

Where in America do you see apostates being killed for their unbelief?

Where in America do you see religious sects terrorizing and killing each other?

Where in America do you see certain members of a religion blowing themselves up in the name of God?

Where in America do you see people living in 7th century conditions?

"He said, “As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.”

Debt? What debt? Do you mean we have a debt to the Muslim invaders who conquered and destroyed many civilians, looting their wealth, killing people, raping women, enslaving people and destroying their architecture and places of learning?

Obama did not stop there. He went on to say “I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”

Is defending a religion, any religion, part of the responsibility of the POTUS?

No, especially when the constitution guarantees separation of church and state.

He added:
“The U.S. government has gone to court to protect the right of women and girls to wear the hijab, and to punish those who would deny it.

How about women's right not to wear the hijab or does Obama want to create a situation similar to Europe where women are afraid to leave their homes with their head uncovered?

"What is interesting is that Mr. Obama who claims to be a Christian specifically requested a picture of Jesus on the cross be removed from the wall that would be behind him when speaking at an event in Georgetown University, last month."

Georgetown is a Catholic college by the way.

His elusive character cannot be pinned down because he is a narcissist. He is a man with many masks and no identity. Behind those masks there is a neglected child, crying out for attention and love. The best description of Obama is a quote from his book, ‘The Audacity of Hope,’ where he wrote, “I serve as a blank screen, on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views.”

Obama went to Turkey and then to Cairo to receive approbation. He will go to those who will cheer for him loudest, and – will tell them what they want to hear. Obama is an emotionally needy man, a narcissist in a perpetual hunt for applause and admiration.

Ali his father left the picture when he was three years old and his mother left him with his grandparents to go globehopping. On top of that when he did meet his father after reaching his adulthood, Obama Sr. turned out to be an alcoholic and death in a drunk driving accident. Does this sound like a person who is emotionally needy?

Ibn Rushd, #13
Like all leftists you don’t seem to have much inkling towards facts. KKK supported Obama. Did you miss that? CAIR and all Muslim goons cheered for him. How much do you want to live in denial? The toughest critics of Obama are people like me and I am not an extremist, but as a humanist who cares for human life and human rights more than an ideology. Leftism is mental disorder. This is why you can’t distinguish facts from fiction. If you are the same Ibn Rushed (the girl) I know for years, I must say I am disappointed that after these many years you babble this much nonsense.

Louis R. Andrews, Chairman of a white advocacy group called the National Policy Institute voted for Obama because he wanted to see the republican party destroyed, so it can be reborn as a party representing the interests of white people, and not entrenched corporate elites. White supremacists voted for Obama because they believe it will be good for the cause, which a race war.

MARIE

first you say nobody is stopping muslims coming into america and having a new life.

Agents fired two warning shots before the boat's operator surrendered. No one was injured, officials said. Agents found 16 men and six women from Mexico on board, all wearing life vests and in good condition. Investigators later determined they were in U.S. waters illegally.

Agents seized the boat, which did not have any registration markings, and held two of the men for possible criminal prosecution. Three of the other men will remain in the U.S. as witnesses, and the others were turned over to the U.S. Border Patrol for possible return to Mexico, officials said.

To enter america you must have a visa. And to permenantly stay in america you must have a green card. Its just like UK. you get different sort of visas, you get

limited leave to remain, student visa, work permit and you get indefinite leave. You cannot just come to the uk and start working. immigrants get deported once they are found.

So marie dont say anyone can coem to america and begin a new life because that aint true at all.

In america you get many stories where 14 year old gals get married to much older guys. and in some states the legal age of marraige is 12. if gals didnt get married at 12 than this legal age wouldnt be there.

Apostates beng killed for unbelif. You do get incidents 100%, it even happens i nthe uk. So dont deny. But in america you also get another sort. You get killed for no reason on the streets by gangs. You also get killed if you leave a racist group like kkk.

Where in muslim world does a black guy get killed from a racist group. Actually that only happens in america.

You think in america religious sects dont kill each other. Actually in america you go a step further, you kill for no reason. That why you have the highest murder rate in the world.

In america you do see woman covered head to toe. They are called nuns. In christianity just like islam ladies are supposed to be covered head to toe. Go an visit a historical church and you will see how the nuns are dressed.

Actually just go an watch SISTER ACT

Hello....ls

"Not like bush statement your either with us or against us"

whats wrong with that statement
your satan says, wether you satan beliver or non-beliver, whats the different

another muslim double standard

again...

“I dont insult no ones intellegnece. Not at all. I am pretty sure the majority of people here are much wiser and cleverer than me. The only thing i try to do is correct misunderstandings”

thats why majority left islam cause they wiser and clever..., and you try to correct their misunderstanding.?

your statements sounds ridiculous and nonsense

Londonspirit:

FROM 18: “NOT LIKE BUSH STATEMENT YOUR EITHER WITH US OR AGAINST US.”

Is there anything wrong in this statement? This is not the fight between countries but fight between belief and thoughts, Muslim countries like Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia and countries in Africa are fighting for their survival with the people who want to bring Taliban way of Living in their countries. Such kind of war can only be fought with common efforts.

Are you saying that you support Taliban way of Living?

FROM 22: “ARE THEIR ANY ISLAMIC SITES THAT PROMOTE HATE ON ANY OTHER RELIGION?”

I don’t think that they need any website to promote hatred as they openly teach it in Islamic schools; have book which openly discriminate between Muslims, non Muslims, females. While in the secular Countries, non Muslims are not allowed to do so as it is against the secular value.
Muslims are the one who leave their country for the western countries / western influenced Islamic countries if they get a visa. At the same time they never forget to abuse the Western society once they get Permanent residence /Citizenship. (Do not forget the demonstration in England and other part of world in response to the Danish Cartoons)

FROM 27: “IRAQ WILL SEND A NUCLEAR BOMB TO AMERICA WITHIN THE NEXT 45 MINUTES”

Are you saying that Saddam was a good man who killed so many innocent Muslims? Is it allowed for a Muslim to Kill Muslim but if non Muslim punish Muslim for good reason than there is a cry in whole Islamic world? What ever was the reason for the attack, he was a dictator and mass murderer? Innocent people suffer in such type of War so don not cry, now Iraqis has right to choose their own government through democratic way.

FROM 30: “TO ENTER AMERICA YOU MUST HAVE A VISA”

You don’t need to write the big story about the boat seizes or so, it is common sense that citizens from certain countries need visa to enter in to certain countries, depends on the bilateral agreement.

YOU: “IN AMERICA YOU GET MANY STORIES WHERE 14 YEAR OLD GALS GET MARRIED TO MUCH OLDER GUYS”

Do you think that this is good thing that a girl marries at such an early stage, and you don't feel shame in justifying your point or indirectly Prophets Marriage with child girl by bringing this issue. (The normal marriage age is 16 -18 in USA and most part of non Islamic countries, with or without father consent). Exceptions are their.

YOU: “IN AMERICA YOU DO SEE WOMAN COVERED HEAD TO TOE.”

Are you saying that Nuns and Muslim Women in True Islamic countries have the same life style and same degree of freedom? What is your point? Just do not argue for the sake of Argument, Positive discussions are always good.

Always remember if one justifies wrong practices in ones religion by saying that others also did so or do so, than that religion will always go down and become worse one as you have so many religions to take the bad practices from. This is what happened to Islam.

[...] by Ali Sina [...]

Mr Ali Sina,

You are mistaken i never had the honor of meeting you and no,i am the girl you know either.
I have lot of respect for you for your knowledge on religous matters.I don't agree with your fear mongering politics
Unless you hold a degree in Psychiatry your opinion on mental disorders don't mean a thing.However you have every right to diagnose dead people. :)

On politics i would rather listen to Colin Powell.I strongly believe in giving people a chance before issuing a verdict.Highly intellectual people like you can some time be mistaken.

Correction to response to #25 i am NOT the girl you know

Perhaps the most powerful and fastest growing religion on Earth, has self-confessed followers who behave bad sometimes, who perpetrate injustice. Ostensibly following Islamic Holy scriptures. And these 2 factors, growth and unjust behavior of some Muslims, combined triggered alarm with others. While some followers left Islam and started websites, in opposition to it, scrutinizing and challenging its holy scriptures and the behavior and open or secret intentions of parts of its followers.

Of course now Muslims react, sometimes very accurately and adequately. They are being helped by culture-relativists, leftists, ignorants, from other faiths or no faith. And the gist of their defense of Islam is always about Tu Quoque, and the relative equality of all cultures.

So we are told countless times with countless examples that in say 2000 years all sorts of people, followers of all sorts of faiths or no faiths, in principle on average performed the same mix of behavior, good and bad. So every challenge to either Islamic texts or behavior or intentions of Muslims will always be met with this kind of reasoning.

Fine. Let this then be our first line of defense too. Look at Israel, which in our view belong in the Middle East due to historic rights, and at the Americans who supply them. Let us this time use the same strategy or tactics our opponents use, and defend Israel and America on a culture-relativist base. Let us at least claim single standards for all peoples, all followers of all faiths. This means that whenever and wherever Muslims challenge Israel or America, we can do research and heap on them massive evidence that whatever Israel or America or its citizens did, is matched or exceeded by Islamic leaders, countries, groups or persons. In regard to other countries, groups, persons, which were their victims.

In the case of Israel; even if Israel did steal land, then land was stolen from Christians and Hindus a thousandfold more by Muslims. If Palestinians were victims, so were the East Romans possessing all of Turkey before AD 1071, the battle of Manzikert, the Hindus, massacred in their millions. If America supported Israel, then Iran and Saudi Arabia supported the Palestinians. Besides, Israel is a fly-poop on the map, surrounded by a sea of hostile Arabs, who all support the Palestinians.

Thank God for FFI who challenges Muslims, triggering a culture-relativism-reaction, so now we can do it in return for defending Israel and America.

@#35 jAH's post

"Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood."
In other words, non-muslims are not brothers of muslims.

"Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly."
In other words, muslims should not loot fellow muslims. But looting non-muslims is allowed.

"Do not, therefore, do injustice to yourselves."
In other words, muslims can do injustice to non-muslims.

JAH, AT LEAST WAKE UP NOW.

"All Mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over a black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action [No racism and caste system]."
So, one human can excel another by piety and good action. Islam equates piety and good action with becoming a muslim, observing 5 pillars of Islam, following Quran and Sunnah. Non-muslims are not regarded as "pious" and are regarded as "worst of creatures"(Quran 98:6). So, there is apparatheid in Islam not based on race/caste but based on religious beliefs.

"It is your right and they do not make friends with anyone of whom you do not approve.."
THIS IS SLAVERY OF WIVES. MUSLIM MALES DICTATE WHO THEIR WIVES CAN BEFRIEND.

London Spirit says

Apostates beng killed for unbelif. You do get incidents 100%, it even happens i nthe uk. So dont deny. But in america you also get another sort. You get killed for no reason on the streets by gangs. You also get killed if you leave a racist group like kkk.

That is what we have been saying al along LondonSpirit. Islam is just like a Mafia, which gives a death warrant to anyone who leaves Islam.Thank you for clarifying the matter yourself.

London spirit says

Palestinians didnt steal land at all. That is their land. The zionists stole the land of the palestinians. And this is how much influence they have over everything. They have been constantly killing palestinains yet the USA does nothing to stop them.

Isarel only attacks in self defence while Hammas, which is the legal Governemnet in the so called Palestinain territories recruits kids to blow themselves, in the name of Islam. So don't get so mushy about the POOR PALESTIANIANS. The fact is that all the Arabs living in Isarel, are not natives of that land, they have come from various Arab countries. The Jewish people living in different parts of the Arab were killed and brutalized at different times by the Arab populations. Jews who were a flourishing community in Arabia before Islam, are today totally extinct. Now that the Jews have their own land, you as a Muslim bigot just cannot tolerate the poor people having a land of their own. It is the so called palestinians who explode themselves killing children and women like the cowards they are, not the Isarelis. It is the palestinains who use women and children as Human shields and not the Isarelis. So please try to have a balanced view before you try to mix up matters.

Mr. Ali Sina,

I like very much the analysis you have made on Obama speech in Cairo. Unfortunately you mentioned:

'Obama chose the Islamic university of Al Azhar to deliver his speech to Muslims.'

The fact is Obama gave his speech from 'Cairo University' and not 'Al Azhar University'.

Except this point we have a wonderful article here.

I am a nominal Hindu. That means, I hardly pray and the last time I was inside a Hindu temple was more than 15 years ago. I am not interested in religious aspect. I am interested in the history of the Hindus but more interested in the present needs and welfare of the Hindus. As far as I am concerned, the Palestinians can all go to hell. The world will be a more peaceful place if Israel just wipes them out. For too long they (Palestinians) have been a nuisance to the world. They hijack the UN forums for their agenda when the fate or hundreds of millions of other people need more urgent and immediate attention. There are people in this world who have a piece of rag for cloth and cannot have a decent meal in a day while the Palestinians have designer shoes, get supplied with meat and flour by all sorts of international bodies. They have color TVs, refrigerators and washing machine in their so called "refugee camps". Most of these they get for free due to international donors. These super spoilt brats, having been pampered by the world, have all the time in the world to throw rocks at Israelis. Have anyone seen a raggety looking Palestinian who had not had a decent meal for a week? No! Had anyone seen a really starving skinny to the bones Palestinians? No! Infact, these are over fed buffons. Look at their women. They are built like oil barrels. Stupid Indian goverment sends them blankets and medicines when millions of Indians can't have neither. Poor and starving Indian Muslims and other poor and starving Muslims from Pakistan to Africa from time to time go out into the streets to demonstrate on behalf of the Palestinians. Why should the Palestinian agenda hijack the basic needs of other people? The world should forget about the Palestinians. Let these over pampered spoilt brats go to hell. I have interacted with dozens of them in the USA. All of them made comments about how black I am. They, when I am not paying attention referred to me as "Sabra" which I later learned is Palestinian parlance for "nigger". Oh...they hate blacks especially blackmen. They hate the blackmen even more if the blackmen are seen with white women. These are racist beasts who despite protests to the contrary hate black people and have seriously marginalized the few black people found in Gaza. As a personal crusade, I have stopped frequenting Arab run restaurants, bodegas, gas stations and businesses. If I know it, not a single penny of my money is going to these racists ba$tard$.

Ali Sina, Once Again you wrote a great article.

I wish more people could read it, Maybe then more people will see the truth and move their support from this man. He's Dangerous to the free world.

You made great points about Obama, so there is no need for me to point them out here again. keep up the good work on your site...

# 39. ibrahim Says:
--- Islam is just like a Mafia, which gives a death warrant to anyone who leaves Islam.Thank you for clarifying the matter yourself.---

That's a good enough answer I suppose.

kafir123 wrote:

FROM 30: “TO ENTER AMERICA YOU MUST HAVE A VISA”

You don’t need to write the big story about the boat seizes or so, it is common sense that citizens from certain countries need visa to enter in to certain countries, depends on the bilateral agreement.

The reason people must have visa's to enter the U.S. is to do background checks to keep criminals out of the U.S. and to make sure people entering the U.S. can take care of themselves and not be a burden to American society. Also the U.S. government has agreements with many countries to bring foreigners into the U.S. to work.

In regards to that incident the reason why the two men were arrested was because they are smugglers and what they were doing is illegal and dangerous. Many Mexicans died while being smuggled into the U.S or they entered into forced prostitution to pay off their debts to the smugglers.

YOU: “IN AMERICA YOU DO SEE WOMAN COVERED HEAD TO TOE.”

Are you saying that Nuns and Muslim Women in True Islamic countries have the same life style and same degree of freedom? What is your point? Just do not argue for the sake of Argument, Positive discussions are always good.

There are many nuns who don't wear the traditional garb. In fact they are allowed to work in street clothes depending on their order. Each order has it's own regulations on what to wear and some do not have to be covered from head to toe, they can go out with their heads uncovered. Also nuns are servants of the Roman Catholic Church.

LondonSpirit,

We already talked about the high immigration into the West. You arguing that some people were stopped in a boat, who probably were either illegals or smugglers was disingenious, arguing for arguings' sake. In this way we can all contradict each other endlessly but meaninglessly.

I read Steven Pinkers book "The Blank Slate" and learned that America is among industrialized nations the most violent, but not uniquely violent. All societies have violence, and America is not the most violent one in history or even in today's world. Most countries in the Third World, and many of the former republics in the Soviet Union, are considerably more violent.

I also learned that "Though Western societies have seen murder rates fall between tenfold and a hundredfold in the past millennium, the United States lost a million people to homicide in the twentieth century and an American man has about a one-half percent lifetime chance of being murdered. With murder-rates please keep in mind that this is meant as the percentage of murder in the existing population, not as absolute figures. When the whole population dramatically expands, so also the number of murders rises, but not as high as the population rises.

About guns; many societies had sickening rates of violence before guns were invented. People do not automatically kill one another just because they have access to guns. The Israeli's + Swiss are armed to the teeth but have low rates of personal crime, and among American states, Maine and North Dakota have the lowest homicide rates but almost every home has a gun.

So while I understand how you view arms-dealers, who are often so greedy and immoral, as a big threat, I myself do not see them as much as a threat as a totalitarian Islamic state system, already existing in many Islamic countries, expanding into Europe.

"Muslims killed an est 270 million during a period of 1400 years"

- Please don't mind me asking, but, where did you get that figure mr ali sina?

I only mentioned in regards to illegal immigrants because marie put a statement up saying people can enter amercia as they wish and begin a new life. i was proving her wrong. I didnt intend for a discussion to start in regards to this an i dont know why it has started.

DEMSCI you said So while I understand how you view arms-dealers, who are often so greedy and immoral, as a big threat, I myself do not see them as much as a threat as a totalitarian Islamic state system, already existing in many Islamic countries, expanding into Europe.

you dont find the people who make the weapons for these muslims as a threat but you find the muslims as a threat. Lets look at the so called terriorst state pakistan. They use fighter jets f-16, which are american made. Saudia Arabia (figheter jets = f16, eurofighter and many more(amercian and europe made)). And many more. These aircrafts are able to carry nuclear silos. If amercia and other nations want to stop this war on terror than all they have to do is stop supplying them weapons. Isnt it really simple.

Libya Orders 14 French Rafale Fighter Planes-Media

Saudi Arabia to buy Euro-fighter jets worth nine billion dollars

Pakistan to get 100 fighter jets from China, US

Why you selling these powerful destructive aircrafts to these countries and many more. You can end this war if you stop supplying these countries with not just aircrafts but tanks and artillery.

Likewise saudia arabia can stop USA from attacking countires because it owns 11 percent of america plus it supllies huge quantities of oil.

what i am trying to get at here is your scared of muslims attacking but you cant see your own goverment promoting war by supllying weapons to the extreme.

# 48. londonspirit ;

You have asked the right question. Why the " mostly Christian American and European counties " arming the Islamic terrorist countries like Pakistan, Saudi Arabia etc. with weapons of mass destruction??

The answer is very simple Both the Cults Islam and Christianity are killing Cults. That is their only source of earning , lively hood, well they do that in the name of " World peace, new world order etc." If they can't kill the Infidels, the Heretics: they will end up killing their own. LOL

Aoooooz

The answer is very simple Both the Cults Islam and Christianity are killing Cults. That is their only source of earning , lively hood, well they do that in the name of ” World peace, new world order etc.” If they can’t kill the Infidels, the Heretics: they will end up killing their own. LOL

Where do you see christians killing in the name of christanity you moron?
Most western govts are anti christian, and have yet to see western govts preach Christanity...they are all secular to the bone.......