MUHAMMAD'S MIGRATION FROM MECCA TO MEDINA:PROPHECIED IN THE BIBLE?

Women protesting 'rape law' stoned
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/World/Women-protesting-rape-law-stone...

Moslems are really extremely stupid and idiotic.You dont need a rocket scientist to deceive the idiots.Any one with slight intelligence and cunningness can deceive these fools.Cunningness is important, to take these idiots ofr a ride.Who else but moslems believe tha sun sets in a large muddy pond?
Who else but moslems will believe that they will get a permanent erection in heaven?
Who else but moslem idiots( not needed really,oslem means idiot) will believe in toilet tissue called qrand?
Idiots come in billions

Ibn Kammuna, you are a really bad guy. Why the hell did you have to expose Jamal Badawi. Do you know how much money he gets from the Saudis to make up these lies. Its not good for his buisness, man.
Mate don't do further exposees of this great Taqiya expert called Jamal badawi. May Allah give strenght to the lies of Jamal Badawi, Ameen,

Did you guys read the article on that fatwa on cell phones which was given by some clerics in India. Seems these beard monkeys have nothing better to do than give these stupid fatwas.

Dear Ibrahim...
i think u r little Johny.joks and joks..
mara fit it,,,,its true u know most of the Muslim scholars in live debeats whn thy dont get answer of any question they try to post a comments...like give 1million $ if u prove this...coz they know they have oil and thy can give...
y money...
you know once in a Debeat wid Pastor Raza Safa Mr.Dr.Badawi said i can give tht much amount if u prove...and Raza safa said thn go and translate ur Quran and publish it..coz other translations are not saying tht muslims can make frndship wid Christians...hehehe

Poma, English is not your first language neither is it mine, but it would be advisable that you atleast learn the basics of English so that people can atleast get the message of what you are trying to tell them. (no isult intended)

Ibrahim,

Your first comment was sarcasm, right? Ummm...haha?

Ik,

thanks and well done.

Muslims will do anything to try and prove their point....especially lie. if the guy didn't read, he only followed the footsteps of his "prophet." If he did read, but continued to expose lies....he still followed the footsteps of his "prophet" (many curses be upon him).

Sure i try my level best...its really a bad luck for meee...
i cant write but i can speak...dont laugh bt its true...dear....some times i also laugh on this thing...bt any ways...i try my level best to be the best...hehehe
any ways..come back to the point...ya i read the artical of Fatwa ab8 Cell phones...wat the Bloody hell is this....
wat they really want..
wat they care...
Honestly speaking thy damn care ab8 women..
women is jst like a sex material for thm...even man...
bs kahtam...i'm afraid...wat will thy do and wat thy want...
May God Bless this earth..and i dont know wat gonna happen..
jst keep My country Pakistan in Prayers

hi PK come in forum....
i wanna communicate wid you personaly
i've the same dp name as i've here.
Poma

Yes ofcourse Free Spirit, I was being sarcastic. You know me, lady.lol
What's life without some fun!

Oye Puma Relax kar yaaara, itni tension leni acchi gal nahee hondi hai. Stop worrying about Pakistan, as it was doomed since the day it came into existance. BTW: how is the missionary work in Pakistan? How much are people paid to convert in ur coutry, the standing rate in Indian varies from Rs. 10,000 to Rs. 100,000 sometimes they add a vehicle to clinch the deal.

What's life with out fun? Islam! Life with out meaning, fun or frolick? Islam and muslimahs!

Poma
Since Muslims hate Jews so much why expect them to taslk about an Arab who hated them so much. It is amazing how the bible never said to the Jews "watch out the Muslims are coming or "Jews become Muslim because Mo is coming. It is amazing how the bible spoke of Mo and this was before the coming of Jesus, a Jew. Arabs traded with Israel during the days of King David and King solomon and they never said they own Israel way back them. In Psalms the Arabs and their buddies said that they would send the Jews into the sea. Way back then, which proves that Jews owned Israel, not the Ishmaelites and their best buds. The bible can also prove that Arabs didn't come from Ishmael, but Joktan who was born before Abram. The inheritance was given to Isaac, father of the man called Jacon from which the 12 tribes of Isral came. Abraham gave gift to his son by the slave girl Hagar and his concubine Keturah with whom he had 6 sons, they all got gifts not the inheriatnce. This means that they are not to inherit the blessing which Abraham owned. Sorry Muslims, you have been disowned by LAW.

well dear Ibrahim,,,,i heard tht it happend in every nation tht Missionries pay and convert..even i think its worthy...
coz they are paying...not raping and killing...
coz now in Pakistan..they are killing,raping both Hindu and Christian girls...as u know its there rite...so thy are allowed to do tht...
now no payments are going on for this...infact conditions are not in favour of Pakistani Born ppl to Preach so no way for missionroies to come and Preach...so now we are doing it by ourselves..
so lets see...wats God will...
coz God want all of us to b saved...
aur mara tension koi nai,nai li ha....mjha pata ha mjha kia karna cahea aur kia nai...
so i'm not worried...
God Bless u and ur family

Dear Raisin
i dont have any personal things wid any body...infact i'm hear for really to match the slogon of this web....
We aim to promote human rights and democracy among Muslims.
We oppose Islam, not Muslims. We are against hate, not faith.

so dear its not a game of win r not...
its a game of understand and logic...
m i rite?

#14 Without Muslims, Islam is nothing but a book. If the quran is gone then no Muslims of the Islamic kind. When we try to ban the Quran, Muslims scream. The Quran says nothing but the Muslims do. I can ban and burn the Quran, but as a human i would never attack Muslims and burn them. But MMuslims attack and burn us and you.
As you say, we are not against Muslims, but Muslims follow the Quran and it tells them to kill me. The Quran does not kill but tell the Muslims to do so. I dont need an AK-47 to shoot the Quran, I just throw it into the fire. But Muslims are alive and talk, shoot, sex girls and boys, steal, lie, etc. COMMON SENSE.

Those who think that Islam will be defeated by mere words alone are not conversant with reality. The fact of the matter is that we need people acting strongly against the Islamic menance. Even very small things can go a long way. First and foremost the Kuffar especially the Western Kuffar who usually take a high moral stand should ease on that part a bit. Start by boycotting all products coming from Islamic countries. When you go shopping insist on prodcuts that are not from islamic countries.
Secondly stop treating Muslims as equals, if they cry, tell them that you are applying Sharia in reverse on them. Be fierce and ruthless when dealing with Muslims on the internet, show no mercy to them. Your harsh words will go a very long way. Let them know what you think of their stupid cult and their paedophile prophet Muhammad.
Let no non-muslim, ever give a dime for any Islamic cause, stop donation to UN funds, etc. Make sure that your money does not go to funding terrorists.
Fourthly make sure that your daughters (in case they are teenagers) don't go out with Muslim boys. Educate your children about Islam from the very begining, give them real life examples and teach them how Islam is worse than doing drugs.
Fifth go and get free copies of the Quran from the nearest Saudi Embassy, you can get as many copies as you like for free. use their Copies of the quran deligently. Kindly read the articel written by Ibn Kammuna on how to make the best use of your Quran.

The only popular but honest muslims are maulana fezlullah, mullah omar, sufi mohamed and osama bin laden and his ilk. These guys know islam at its best and best represent mo on earth. Mr. Jamal Badawi (the Dr. initial is not necessary to these types of people) and other proponets of peaceful islam are just crap, not only in the eyes of non muslims but also in the eyes of allah and honest muslims. I doubt if muhammad would have Jamal Badawi as his best role model on earth. Does jamal badawi love life more than he loves death? Is he not willing to sex a 12 year old child (a recommended 9 years old age is just too offensive of me to write here)? Is he not willing to have sex with his daughter-in-law ? Does he love jews, hindus and christians? If not, he is not a muslim. May be he is a malsian and his god halla and his holy book raqun or am I just a blabbermouth (?)!

Poma

I am really sorry to hear about the plight of Hindu and Christian girls in pakistan. I am really surprised to know that there are still Hindus left in Pakistan. Just 40 years back every one out of 5 pakistanis was a hindu, and today they are not even a percetage.
Christian might still have a chance when compared to Hindus since they are Ahle Al Kitan whereas Hindus are kafirs for the Muslims. Its sad to see how Islam makes monsters out of human beings.

well dear ibrahim...not only Hindus...
those who dont belive in Allah and the Prophet Muhammed thy all are kafirs...
so no worries i'm kafir too....
wel u r right our harsh words can make things change...but u know if west countries throw all muslims either good or bad from there countries thn thy will realize the value of West...they want every where the shria law..but u r right its really a cult...we know how under pressure we celebreated Good Friday and Eastor...what the hell they want..now in sucide bombs..which kafir they are killing..they are killing Muslimss...
all the loveing soldiers they are muslims..bt i dont know wat kind of Muslims thy want...
and Brother if u ever read Bible..i'm not imposing Christianity but if u read Matthew Chapter 10 verse 22..whn u read tht verse thn u come to know..and trust me this verse is my story...
and this make my faith more strong...
every one who dont wear shalwar kamez and dont have bear,,,,they are kafir...
those who are not raping girls they are kafir..
those who are not beating their wives they are kafir...
those who are not marrying girls under 10 they are kafir...those who are not rapping Christian and hindu girls thy are kafir..
those who are not burning Churches and hindu tempels they are kafir..
those who are talking ab8 Humanity they are kafir..
so i think this is the real ISLAM...and if u do all the above thigs u r a TRUE MUSLIM

16 and 18#
in my country christian and Hindu girls are getting raped...and force marriages to muslims...
wat we can do...we cant do any thing...if we ever try..kill
kill
kill
so lovly na...
no humaity..
our sisters..our girls...our mothers...our daughters..are not human beings...

Ibrahim Pakistan says all al infidels unless they are the right kind of Mooslims. Christendom members call them as evil as the Hindu and kill them too. No one is exempt, otherwise 9-11 would not have happened. ALLAH DOESNT CARE. HE HAD TO PRETEND TO BE NICE TO JEWS AND CHRISTIANS. look at somalia, kenya. FOOD was being sent to the starving Africans and the holy warriors of Allah stopped them.

Are there any African Muslims left in Pakistan or they still in India. I read about the Dalits in the election in India.

i drank TEA yesterday.

i really dont know wat they really wanna do ...
thy are really sick..r one day we all become sickk of thmmmmmmm

wat tht mean tht u drank Tea yesterday..hey do u know Mr Iqbal too run...
now who will fight for thm again

Americans had TEA partiers yesterday in response to Obama tax plans. The Islaomarxist are trying to put Americans down who dont like the Islamification of America.

Dalits had a politican, a woman, The Dalits have gotten lighter (smile)

#25 Islamomarxist

o yes...i watch on TV yesterday on BBC and CNN....americans are protesting ab8 tea party

Poma yes we are no pleased with Obams who is trying to pretend to love America and the bible when he puts it done every chance he gets. If he was an America from the hood, he would be a GREAT president, but he is not. He was messed up by his early teaching as a baby, boy, teen, and adult. You cannot straddle the fence. Either you are with me or against me. Islam cannot survive, either they are muslim or not. If one is a Muslim, they lie, kill, and sex kids, and beat women. they should not be allowed to live among people who have grown pass this evil.

dear Raisin i totally agree wid u
u r 101%rite...if u wanna know how much i've for Islam
thn go and read my Post number 69
here.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/2009/04/16/jamshed-iqbal-vs-ali-sina/
u'll come to know wat i've..
bt plz after reading dont laugh at my english..and if u really wanna know wats going on wid me..wat is my story...jst open the Bible and Read Matthew Chapter 10 verse 22..this verse is my story...and i'mProude tht God words are ther wid me and i feel hounr now.

Ibrahim,

I thought so, but was just making sure. Well then....hahaha!

Poma,

That is terrible that that is happening to the Christian and Hindu girls in your country; although, I am not at all surprised. Just keep praying.

Not to get off topic, but for those of you who are interested, here is a link to a nightly Bible study online. It comes on 9:30-10:30pm EST. I'll leave a blog link as well, but for those of you who might disagree, at least be respectful when leaving your comment.
Here are the links.

www.thespiritnet.net
www.thespiritnet.blogspot.net

Someone told me about them a while back...pretty interesting.

#29 I dont care about your English. I dont know any of your language. Ok Just do the best you can. we have so many languages in American, and our President wants us to know them all when most of us cant even speak proper English. We have fun and that is all we expect of others. Live and let live. Muslims have not learned that yet. If Muslims live and let live, then allah is a liar as he is anyway Sura 3:54. not one Muslims can deny this verse.

#29:---we are no pleased with Obams who is trying to pretend to love America and the bible when he puts it done every chance he gets. If he was an America from the hood, he would be a GREAT president---

I thought Muslims are the only Dick-heads, Lo and behold , there are are many Christian Dick heads calling his/her/itself """Raisin Head """

Dick-head you yourself should learn English before teaching others English.

""" love America and the bible """ What a perverted Christian thinking!! Well perversion is part of Islam as well as Christianity. Dick-heads. Ha Ha Ha Ha

Raisinhead

Kindly don't use the word Dalit again, it is an extremely stupid word racist in its origins concoted by some stupid pseudo secular politicians of India.
It is same as calling a black man a nigger. I don't think you know much about India, but I think the typical image that the western media projects about India is not the entire truth.
Ofcourse most of these media groups are owned by right wing Christian/ Muslim fanatics who have their own axe to grid against India and its great civilization

#31 Oh not you didnt! Typos are not the same as speaking English. I said most of us cannot speak proper English and all you say is learn English before teaching it. You need to learn to read properly. He understood what I said, apparently you didnt like you understand not what kill is as in Arabic kill is considered MERCY. HOW INSANE.

#32 tHE aFRO-iNDIANS i KNOW USE THE WORD. They just showed a video about the election and they used the word to describe these folks.

Ibrahim, These were Dalits, not Christians or Muslims. The people use it, in fact they call themselves the DALIT PANTHERS like the Black Panthers in America. I'm sorry, I didnt know that it was taboo, as they use it. Is it the same as what the Afro-Indians call racism by the Hinus and Muslims in India. These folks said they suffered from all Indians. I met some of the DAlits and they said nothing about the word. Again, Im sorry if I offended.

Christian ideology is what made America. Not Hinduism, not Islam or any religion. the good, the bad and the ugly made America. All Americans are not christians and I am glad, but the fact is it was the Bible that the constitution was based on. Look at India based on Hinduism. With the education of the Christian world from America the Muslims would destroy you.

I am not a member of Christendom, but I do believe in the Bible as it has said nothing about Untouchables or slavery for anyone after christ.

Ibrahim, I love my nigga, and he is a white nigga and Jewish. This is America and we do as Americans do, mix up. We are not religious, either of us.
Sorry, the word is not as negative as you think. Nigga can be a LUV THANG!
lIKE SAYING WHEN IN THE MOOD, i luv ya nigga, you my nigga is a hood thang. it means you love. Man, have fun. Live and let live. We have to make love not war.

Excellent article.

I just can't stand this! MonkeyMad/MuuuuuuhCowMAD/Mumm-RA-MAD the Paraclete Spirit was advertised 1300 years before in the torah of its fleeing from meca to medina!

My belly hurts from lauhter!

# 36. Raisin Head -----:
Christian ideology is what made America.

What a moron.

Who told you that.Did you read the constitution:

Did you read what the founding fathers said about christianity.

Hint:Check the comments of Thomas Jefferson and Thomas Paine.

This is for nutheads to read and realise that american constitution is rational only because it does not depend on the bible!Reda here the text of the letter by jefferson.Ah it's another matter that nut cases of evil bible and qrand want their books glorified inspite of absurdities, asininities etc in them

Jefferson's Wall of Separation Letter

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Thomas Jefferson was a man of deep religious conviction - his conviction was that religion was a very personal matter, one which the government had no business getting involved in. He was vilified by his political opponents for his role in the passage of the 1786 Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom and for his criticism of such biblical truths as the Great Flood and the theological age of the Earth. As president, he discontinued the practice started by his predecessors George Washington and John Adams of proclaiming days of fasting and thanksgiving. He was a staunch believer in the separation of church and state.

Jefferson wrote a letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in 1802 to answer a letter from them written in October 1801. A copy of the Danbury letter is available here. The Danbury Baptists were a religious minority in Connecticut, and they complained that in their state, the religious liberties they enjoyed were not seen as immutable rights, but as privileges granted by the legislature - as "favors granted." Jefferson's reply did not address their concerns about problems with state establishment of religion - only of establishment on the national level. The letter contains the phrase "wall of separation between church and state," which led to the short-hand for the Establishment Clause that we use today: "Separation of church and state."

The letter was the subject of intense scrutiny by Jefferson, and he consulted a couple of New England politicians to assure that his words would not offend while still conveying his message: it was not the place of the Congress or the Executive to do anything that might be misconstrued as the establishment of religion.

Note: The bracketed section in the second paragraph was been blocked off for deletion in the final draft of the letter sent to the Danbury Baptists, though it was not actually deleted in his draft of the letter. It is included here for completeness. Reflecting upon his knowledge that the letter was far from a mere personal correspondence, Jefferson deleted the block, he noted in the margin, to avoid offending members of his party in the eastern states.

This is a transcript of the letter as stored online at the Library of Congress, and reflects Jefferson's spelling and punctuation.

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Mr. President

To messers Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut.

Gentlemen

The affectionate sentiments of esteem & approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful & zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, and in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more & more pleasing.

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man & his god, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of separation between church and state. [Congress thus inhibited from acts respecting religion, and the Executive authorised only to execute their acts, I have refrained from presenting even occasional performances of devotion presented indeed legally where an Executive is the legal head of a national church, but subject here, as religious exercises only to the voluntary regulations and discipline of each respective sect.] Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.

I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection and blessing of the common Father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves and your religious association, assurances of my high respect & esteem.

(signed) Thomas Jefferson
Jan.1.1802.

#39 I said it was based on Christian ideology, not the Bible. The Brits left England to get away from the Church of England who was a total religious ideology. This is all they knew and although you disagree, you cannot say that they didnt believe in the Bible. Like most members of christendom, they didnt read the bible, thus they were unaware of the principles in the bible, just what some Reverand says or some Pope said, not what Jesus said. Jefferson and others were not impressed with religion because of the sordid lives of the religious leaders of the Churches. When they came to America, they did many things anti-The Bible, which has been blamed on the Bible. When people blame the Bible for something, read and see if they Bible said so. If not, then blame the person. Killing is anti the bible, but men do it.
Christendom is responsible for doing many things anti the Bible, as in 1 Tim 1:8-10 where slavery is banned, but the so-called christians did it with whites and blacks. Since Muhammad claims to folow Christians, why did he do slavery, murder, fornication, adultery. The Bible said have one wife not 2,3,4. Knowing this why was it done? Man loved to do it and Muhammad made all of this a religious right. All he did was claim he had a vision and allah gave him the right to sex a baby, slaves, dead people, rob caravans, degrade, become a mafia.

#40 Thomas Jefferson, a slave owner apparently didnt read the bibler, otherwise he would not have sex his wife's sister, a slave named Sally Henning.
Sally was his wife's half sister, a beautiful slave girl, a girl he took to France with him. When his wife died, Sally was moved into the big house. When Jefferson talked bad about Christians, he was really talking about Christendom, as what he did was not from the Bible, but the churches who caused the words in the Bible not to be read as most whites were illiterate and couldnt read.
The last sentence really tells one how he really felt or pretended to feel by saying the last sentence you quoted-prayers, Father and Creator of man.......

Thanks you for your comments, but those guys knew nothing of the Bible as their churches didnt. In America it says we have freedom FROM religion and freedom OF religion. NOT SO IN iSLAM! Moderate Muslims either come West or die! Americans really dont care, like me!

Hmmmm let me get it straight.
Christianity andchristendom are different from bible and preachings of the dead jew on a stick? correct me if I am wrong.
As per your understanding,what men and wmen do if it's immroal by the rpesent standards, then that practice is not christianity or biblical teachoings but christendom and if the moral things people do who do not believe in the dead jew on a stick, then perhaps they are too wrong!
America does not and can not follow biblical principles and it would be absurd to do so for more than 70% of american women have sex out side marriage and as per bible are liable to be stoned! Go on then pick up that first stone.
Who knows about what's in bible?
Now that there are numerous so called enlightened people, calling them selves christians, visit the site, I will leave it to their good judgement to see if they recognise the cognitive dissonance disorder that moslems suffer,in these christians too?

Halalpork786,

Dude, you are VERY rude! You don't have to agree with Raisinhead, but don't resort to insulting her personally....if you want to get childish....it takes one to know one! We are all here to fight a war against Islam. You don't have to agree with anyone's religion, but have some respect for fellow members who are fighting for the same cause as you are....if you can't respect anyone, then keep your hands off the keyboard and log the hell off! Who the hell made you an expert on English....I've seen you make mistakes as well!

PK,

Love ya, brother, but last time I checked, he was not on the stick! He is alive and well!

#41 :Christendom is responsible for doing many things anti the Bible, as in 1 Tim 1:8-10 where slavery is banned

Here is the timothy 1:8-10

"8 Therefore do not be ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me His prisoner, but share with me in the sufferings for the gospel according to the power of God, 9 who has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was given to us in Christ Jesus before time began, 10 but has now been revealed by the appearing of our Savior Jesus Christ, who has abolished death and brought life and immortality to light through the gospel,"

Where did it say Slavery is banned???????

Why the heck Jesus didnt ban slavery which is LAW in OT.

help mate... in Australia muslim are coming like flood water. i am very worried about us... i mean aussies + non muslims ... soon we will be killed by muslims from lebanon,india, pakistan,bangladesh, arab etc........ Aussi land will be Allah land...... there will be no pork, no beer in Australia...... so sad ......

# 43. Free Spirit Says: "Dude, you are VERY rude!"

Hi Dude ;Are you trying to fight fire with fuel? Don't get drunk with your own Sprit idiot!

#47,

I see you're no better than he/she is if you resort to the same thing....personal attacks. I simply don't feel it is right that we attack each other personally when we're fighting for the same cause.

PK and I don't agree with each other cuz we are of different religious backgrounds (belief systems), but I do not resort to name callling. I do not agree with everything everyone says in here, but respect is the key...otherwise we lose track of what our purpose is and fight among each other! If we can't be peaceful among fellow members then why the hell are we even here!?! I simply feel that if we can't show each other respect, then we don't need to be here! If I'm an idiot for thinking that way.....so be it and thank you!
Have a great day! :)

Free spirit said:

"Love ya, brother, but last time I checked, he was not on the stick! He is alive and well!"

Who is alive and well?? I take it you mean Jesus, you made a concrete statement that reeks of evidential backing, this means you can show us where Jesus is right now, huh!

Yeah we both fight Islam, but we need our warriors to be equally sane so as not to spill over insanity to our prize i.e the rescued ones from Islam, to fight Islam, one needs not mention any other religion because the Muslim's demented and emotionally wreaked mind might think this is all a wormhole through which a speedy conversion to Christianity is achieved.

Truly sane people don't compartmentalize knowledge, if it is a logical fallacy in Islam it is the same thing in Christianity, Mohammad used an animal as a rocket is bullshit so also an undead Jew levitating through space to return for the salvation of only Christians, "he is alive and well" of course he is, at least in your neurons triggered emotions which led you to "confirmation bias" reason and logic is not needed in your type of thought.

Agree with comment 49 above.

Dont muddle up things.