I really hated you
Dear Ali
I must let you know there was a time I really hated you. “How dare you tell such lies about Islam?” I’d say. But deep inside I knew it was the truth [shock treatment works].
I feel I was kind of conned into Islam, I read all the pamphlets regarding great “scientific miracles” in the Quran. I read how it was the trilogy of the Abrahamic faiths, how if I loved Jesus I should be a Muslim because he was. I did love Jesus, but I never believed he was God I just thought his teachings where great, really advanced for his time and that he truly loved people and wanted them to live a better life. I began to believe that God really does exist. I read so many books until one day I was sufficiently brain washed and I converted.
The Quran I always found hard to take, it was sadistic, but because everyone I knew found it so beautiful I began to think it was me that I was reading it the wrong way. Mohammed, I didn’t dislike, but as hard as I tried to love him there was something holding me back. It was like for every one beautiful Hadith I read there were ten horrendous ones. The deeper I began to dig into the real Islam I found darker and darker things, until I snapped. I hate this man. How did God ever think it was a good idea to send him as a prophet? But I still couldn’t disbelieve.
I began to think that God was in fact evil. Then the Quran started to make sense. At the same thought I thought God hated me because I was clearly a hypocrite.
Somewhere in all this madness I was an extremist. I forced my son to go to an Islamic school that he hated. I would pressure him to pray. I knew when he told me he believed he was lying, so I began to think bad things about my own child. And I withheld my affection from him .I can’t tell you how sick that makes me feel now. I hated everyone and everything that wasn’t Islamic or Halal. I looked down on everyone even my Parents and sisters. My relationship was about trying to convert them. Instead of holding my poor dying grandmother in her last hours I tried to convert her. I have only started grieving for her now, two years after her death because I couldn’t pray for her as I believed she was in the depths of Hell, where she apparently deserves to be. My Grandmother was a beautiful human being who loved us all so much.
I would pray that God would give me a way to do Jihad. My faith was a kind of religious zeal filled with arrogance. My mind was totally warped. Before I became a Muslim I loved people with all their faults. I had friends from all walks of life. I lost a very good friend who had been there for me my entire life, just because he was Gay.
I even started to hate my Husband because he was a weak Muslim. I began to push him, trying to make him a good strong Muslim ‘brother.” [What a crap!] And I succeeded. He was so proud of me and what I had become. I had become a monster. My husband is now thankfully no longer a good Muslim brother. He is just a good man. But he does still believe and will not have anything bad said about Islam. He is no longer proud of me because I left Islam and our marriage is dead. He is normally a kind and calm man, but if I even begin to speak about the reasons I have left the faith he becomes aggressive. So we don’t talk. We just pass the time of day. We are just waiting for a good time to go our separate ways.
Islam did not bring me peace. It gave me a mental illness. I am starting to rebuild my relationship with my son, but I don’t think he will ever truly forgive me for what I did to him. I am trying to keep a low profile in my community. I am scared, I don’t know if it is just my paranoia, but I know how I felt about people like me. I really don’t know what to expect when it all comes out and I know it will. I needed your site, I needed shock treatment. My brain is my own again. I was a terrorist in the making.
Jane (a psyedonyme)
Jane, welcome back to
Jane, welcome back to humanity. You will now see things differently. You will accept good things from all cultures and philosophies. It is good that you got rid off the teachings of Pedophile Muhammad
Jane Welcome back to sanity.
Jane
Welcome back to sanity. Truth shall always set you free.
This is what happens when
This is what happens when people convert to Islam. Infact my belief and experince tells me that converts are more dangerous than born Muslims. They tend to become Jihadis and Ghazis overnight.
welcome and feel free to talk
welcome and feel free to talk to anyone if you feel a bit depressed. There is a healthy discussion in forums and you can join there rather i would say you must join there and also invite all your friends to join this mission.
Ibrahim, I was precisely
Ibrahim,
I was precisely thinking about what you have written. I guess it is because of a need to create acceptance and to prove that "i am more muslim than born muslim". but i do at the same time believe that people like Jane will work much more harder to enlighten others about the pedo mo and hate called called islam.
Sometimes it is easy for a
Sometimes it is easy for a convert to come out of islam. It is just a matter of relating. You decided to get in islam to find peace but you didn't get it, you get out! You get in to love and be loved istead you hate or receive hate, you get out!
Another thing many westerners convert to islam is that westerners tend to be naughty and adventurous. They'll feel bored of their ancestral culture and want to try new things and record historical experiences in their memoirs so they'll try buddhism, hinduism, satanism, africanism, and in that trend, islam. All is to get peace and hapiness. Whether they find hapiness in islam (as some do stay) I dont know. What i do really know is that islam is bogus!
Jane I joined this site
Jane
I joined this site today( though I had been reading it for some time) and your's was the first post I read. The initial shock, pain will ease (not completely over though) after some time. It is like having been in a total darkness for long when a peron come out into the light it is very painful and sometime a peron starts feeling like going back. But if you keep holding you will start loving it and after some time will feel shocked and amused when you look back. May peace be upon you . ( what an irony, people had been using this phrase for someone who perhaps would be the last peron dead or alive to deserve it.
Either ways Focussed, neo
Either ways Focussed, neo converts are always the biggest missionaries of their new found love, whether they convert in or out of a religion. Once you join a particular group you work hard to be a respected meber of that group.
This is why you will find that ex-Muslims are the biggest critics of Islam, not just because they know Islam first hand but also because they wish to be the part of the "Anti Islam Group". They don't want to be seen with the Islamists in any way what so ever.
In any case, this is human nature, just that islam brings out the worst in Humanity.
Hi Jane, I can understand
Hi Jane,
I can understand what you are going through. Never the less, you are able to hold your heart and brain intact. You seem to be a very brave courageous woman. Try to remain low profile for now. Don't regret what happened. Look at life a new.
Most important is your Son. Make sure that he doesn't turn into another Monster. I don't know how old he is, but it is good to mold him right from beginning. Protect him from all brainwashing stuff. He is your hope. Invest in him. It is redemption for you. You caused one soul to get into this torment and now it is your job to protect and save him.
For other I would say just don't confront them, but live life in what your heart says is right. May peace return to your heart.
How on earth any one can
How on earth any one can convert to islam at all? It beats me. even if you sugar coat the despicable verses inqrand, still its difficult to hide and sugar coat the aspects of evilness in islam like.
1.Pedophilia,2.Rape of kafir women,3.Wife beatings,4.Murder.5.Legalised prostitution.6.Treating women as farts or tilth.7.Making a vaginal contract while marrying! 8.Lying.9.Robbery and theft. 10. Being criminal 11. Worshipping the pedophile prophet and the pimp allah. 13. Sex with daughters in law! 14.Sex with slaves. 15.Banging head 5 times a day. 16 Most of all considering the stupid arsehol arabs as masters.This should make any non arab who wants to convert to this evil called islam, leave instantaneously. Arabs are stupidest ( particularly male arabs) race I have come across. Even a cockroaches have more neurones than an arab male.
Dear Jane, Doubting the
Dear Jane, Doubting the existence of God is no new phenomenon. It has happened in the past,happening in the present & will happen in future. It affects all classes of people, sometime, in one's life. Did you know that after the death of Mother Theresa, her close associate come out with the news that, Mother very much doubted the existence of God.She was said to have bouts of self doubt. Even i had a troubled time when i took to read,hold your breath koran. After a few pages i gave up(thank Allah). Later when i was working as a doctor in Saudi arabia,i felt something was wrong about this religion.You see, they relay live on Tv, the footage from Mecca with English sub-titles,during prayer timings. Believe me they start their prayers abusing the jews followed by the Christians& glorify the muslims for having chosen the correct(what) path.Imagine every muslim reciting this 5 times/day for his entire life span.Imagine the effect it will have on young minds.We give secular education to our children.Our children Or young non muslims have already lost the battle before it has begun.
Talking of halal.I used to hear this discussion between muslims when they have to do an act or eat a new type of food. These muslims love ass holes,it is halal for them. I know the no of cases which would come to the Emergency room with their asses ripped, because a muslim was not "gentle". Young girls less than 6 years come bleeding from the vagina.How it happened???Same story"the child was playing & fell on a stick(i think mohammed's)which injured the vagina".(By the way this story is patented in islam,beware no other religion can use it). It is so nicely hushed up.I used to tap a underground network which leaks the news.
Baby's vagina's & young boy's ashole is halal in islam."BUT WE HATE GAYS,WE ARE MUSLIMS YOU KNOW" moral high ground attitude is for the outside world.
Young boys in islam in their formative years are abused mentally & sexually & when they grow up they pay the world in the same coin but with interest. When i meant the world i meant even the kaffir world also.Why should we suffer for the deeds of islam.
So dear sister have no doubts of leaving islam.ASK FOR FORGIVENESS FROM JESUS(there is a lot of forgiveness in jesus), FROM YOUR SON & THE GAY FRIEND.THATS IT.I AM SURE THEY WILL FORGIVE YOU. In free countries there are public ex-muslim forums. join them for moral support.
Regarding your son it is a serious matter.Give him lot of love & be patient.Take him to a good clinical psychologist(not psychiatrist please) Believe me in one years time he will be DETOXIFIED OF ISLAM.
Take care sister we are always there for you.
Dear Jane, I wish you were
Dear Jane,
I wish you were here so I give you a hug. Congratulations and I wish you the best in life. To be honest with you, the more a person emulates Muhammad, the more evil he becomes. Islam gives a "cult" mentality to people. That was the spell you were under. But thank God you found the light. At least you won't waste hours on end doing stupid Islamic ritulas and meetings..etc. Finally, thank God for Ali Sina who thought of establishing a great site like this. Peace
after reading ur story mr
after reading ur story mr krishan..i think mr karan johar wud luve in saudi arabia...
my freind told me leabonese chicks are hot picks for arabs....
Dear AML,some one in the
Dear AML,some one in the forum was addressing you as Mr.lauda.That person must be thinking you are from Russia Ex-Lada,Prada,Etc.He,He.it was funny.
Yes lebanese chicks are hot picks.anyway common man does not get them.The price is too high.The story is that when a new one is in town,she gets serviced in the pecking order.the royalty & vips first,then down the ladder.She would take 2-3 years to service riyadh city.Then she calls it a day & goes home.
Weekends (thurs & fri) is fun,sat & sun busy sending money home.
Ahh the lebanese jokes! I
Ahh the lebanese jokes! I must share this with you all.I hope the editors do not delete it mistaking it as regular comments from that islamic cretin ameena bai.
A lebanese worker( usually they are interpreters) goes home from sodi barbaria. SOme one who has never been to the barbaria place asks him how are things in that place of pimp and pedophiles?
The just returned lebanese worker says, Ahh its excellent.Morning Fku*ing evening fk*cing and the other chap is quite excited to hear this asks, then why are you here instead of being in Riyadh?
The worker replies in a calm collected voice.Ahh I am now resting my a*se!
That in short is the islamic practice for you!
hahha proud kafir very good
hahha proud kafir very good joke...
yaa khudaaaaaaaaa tu jaaa jaaakay apneeeeeee maaa chudaaaaa!!
I know quite few jokes and
I know quite few jokes and jokes apart these are all sayings that reflect the mentality of sodi barbarians the original book keepers of alla h the pimp.
We used to say that these sodis are so lazy, if a jew finds a way of transferring the pleasure sensation of sex to sodis with out sodis actually doing the hard work associated with sex, then sodis would employ bangladesis to do the hard work bit of sex!
I believe there are many jews who are actively working on this project.
The other joke was about sodi
The other joke was about sodi women!
Many of the sodi women wear nothing under their abayas! Please do not probe in to how I am so sure! Believe me. some sodi women do not wear any thing under abayas. the joke was if by chance these women lose their hijabs they would not hesitate to lift their abayas to cover their head and expose the bases!
Such is the fear about exposing the scalp hair that exposing the hair way down does not bother them at all! It all is down to culture my dear!
Any one who has been to sodi barbaria should visit a place called buraidah. This is where the mad dogs ( muttawas) are being trained and there these mad dogs knock on the doors of every house at 400 am in the morning to compel them attend the head banging ceremony.Thats a sunnah you see.The rapist mo said burn the houses of those who do not attend the 400 am prayers!
The kafirs are not spared either in this exercise.An average sodi is so sick of islam and mohammad, they curse allah and mohammad in vilest of the terms.They are careful not to say any thing against royalty
One of my friend who had treated one of these mad dogs was spared this exercise.He asked the mad dog mullah, as to how he can take the kafirs in to the the pure (whore) house of allah? Then it stuck the mad dog that its pointless to invoite kafirs to join the prayers.So instead they started forcing the kafirs to get converted. Even the sodis are so frustrated with these maddogs, they do not know what to do! Islam is an evil mind blowing thought so that any one who accepts islam will have a blown up mind!
Dear PK,muttawas!!! crazy
Dear PK,muttawas!!! crazy bustards.The local muttawa had a grudge against one of our lab technicans who himself is a saudi.One day this saudi set out to repair his disc antennae & as usual when you are busy you forget everything.He forgot it was prayer time.This muttawa spotted him on the roof.He stopped his car(bustards get land cruisers to move around) & entered the house to arrest the person.In saudi you cannot enter any house without the masters permission.The saudi technican beat up the muttawa & was imprisoned for 3 months. Thats islam for you.
Dear Jane, Welcome to the
Dear Jane,
Welcome to the light. Also try to help others in your community to see the light, If possible.
Guys at this moment I am
Guys at this moment I am reading at the islamic propaganda website www. islamonline.net and I was just reading at question and answers series. I'm interested at understanding how do muslim apologists succeed at keeping the muslim masses in darkeness.
Here I've just learned one tactic muslim apologists use to answer difficult questions like the existent of God, life after death, etc. Keep in mind that just by reading the quran or hadith one cannot prove the existance of God or life after death, so what do they do? They begin their answers by " All religions have this concept of god or gods......", All religions have some sort of belief of life after death......", and then continue to espouse this introduction with some quranic verses and their pathetic lies.
Notice that the trick of responding to this type of approach insinuate in the minds of muslim questioners the notion that the concepts of god and life after death are universal. Therefore there is no need of specifically proving something that is already widely accepted. In that sense an apologist evade seemingly tough questions. Of course if I was the questioner I would continue to press the apologist to tell me in the light of muhammad relations with allah, how sure was he that there was life after death?
Dear Pc, simple,
Dear Pc,
simple, after death -- heaven or hell.prophy mohy went on his horsey to heaven to reserve a berth for him.if heaven is there ,so must be hell. we have first hand eye witness account.If we apply the islamic logic of a women's witness,then 1/4 of his statement is 100% true.This is the logic behind islam's life after death.
in the name of allah most
in the name of allah most merciful.... amin mera bhai kahan tu bosadikay...
if ur banned, u can always create a new id and post over here
I just socked when i read a
I just socked when i read a news in country like nepal where only 1% are Muslims demanding they need muslims states. How that can be possible where 89% are Hindus, 8% buddist,2% Christians and rest of them are Muslims.
I think sooner or later they wud ask Nepal as a NEPALSTAN
in the name of allah most
in the name of allah most seperatist..
its not shocking as they want to conserve the islamic way in nepali mountains...
wut is surprising is nepalis want gorkhaland in india...hahah
Dear Meralauda!!!! Just a
Dear Meralauda!!!!
Just a small digression with the permission of meralauda ofcourse! When Devegowda was the prime minister, a few of us in UK decided to see if we can trick BBC.We seriously phoned up BBC and said to them the state where devegowda comes from has a language bit like welsh.Its not Deve Gowda, gow should be pronounced as Lou and its deve louda and not devegowda. Imagine BBC correspondent saying the Indian PM Develouda says this or that and mr Louda is on leave and unwell.Mr Louda is a bit stiff after a long journey! etc.The BBC did not take the bait! Am certain some one like leralauda must have tried the trick already on them!
odium Isala Says: in the name
odium Isala Says:
in the name of allah most seperatist..
its not shocking as they want to conserve the islamic way in nepali mountains…
wut is surprising is nepalis want gorkhaland in india…hahah
This is what one percent of Muslim population can do, in India Muslim population is 12%, just imagine. Thankfully the one child policy has only hit the Urban Hindus and not the rural Hindus ortherwise the Muslims would have been 20% and would have demanded that entire India be declared Islamic. Mashallah!!!!!
ibrahim, it is not 12%, it is
ibrahim,
it is not 12%, it is more than 18% now. People with more than 1 wife, should be yearly taxed heavily on pretext of entertainmeint tax. :)
Few years back when the Rss
Few years back when the Rss chief said hindus should produce more children, he was shouted down by the left brigade & women rights group.The same does not apply to muslims.Talk of double standards!!!!
in the name of allah most
in the name of allah most sexful,
haha samir that was good one....
Hi Jane, How about joining
Hi Jane,
How about joining "Anti Christ" society. For those whose rocks about, we salute you!!! (AC/DC)
u will find lot of members
u will find lot of members belonging to *anti christ* society at islamic websites...maybe u hit the wrong button...
in north part of india, button is also referred to breast
Right, allahmeralauda
Right, allahmeralauda .....
A lot of member also in Satanic Curch, Black Metal, David Koresh, Children of God, ....
Anyway, do you like Megadeth?
*Hint: Anarchy in the USA (reprised by Megadeth) ...
In the name of GOD, whose
In the name of GOD, whose mercy is everlasting and whose kindness is profound.
Peace.
Prophets came and delivered the message conclusively. Some messages were for their particular time and some everlasting. When people try to implement those messages which were for a particular time, it is then that the problem starts. Like the greater Israel thought was for a particular time. But now the zionist think it is an order from GOD to make a greater Israel. Similarly the injunctions like waging wars against those people who knowingly rejected the truth after being presented with the message of GOD conclusively by Prophets, was only for a particular time. I understand that those so called muslims who try to act like prophets still want to implement that law, they also fail to understand that Prophets alone could decide who is a rejector of the truth and who is the acceptor, because they recieved revelations. But put this thing in your minds that such so called muslims are only in minority, media helped them get famous. Today no one can be jugdemental about anyone. The only job of muslims is to deliver the message and leave the decisions to the others. People killed at the time of different prophets was to acquaint the different nations with the scheme of GOD. Which was that the people who will become righteous will be rewarded , and those who reject the truth after it was appeared to them and they had no doubts in their minds about it, will be punished. The trailor of the scene of the judgement day was presented before the people through the prophets by GOD. Like what happened at Noah's alahisalam time. That is why death of apostasy law could only be implemented by the Prophets and no one else.
Onemore thing I would like to mention. Just like some jews thought at their time and some christians, that they alone could go to the heavans. Same is the case with some muslims, who think they alone could go to heavans. Truth of the matter is GOD says those wil succeed who will look for the truth with an open mind, who when will be presented with the truth accept it after making sure. This is how the scheme of GOD is .
I was an athiest too. If anyone wants to contact me then you are welcomed.
umers_@hotmail.com
Umer
Dear Ibrahim and all, You
Dear Ibrahim and all,
You are damn right. Neoconverts, like me, are ones as you described.
Neo converts are always the biggest missionaries of ex-Muslims who are the biggest critics of Islam. I am the biggest herein my environment in Jakarta, Indonesia. However, as I understand that (official) apostasy is punishable with many bad things, I do not officially convert to anything. I am just a moslem on my ID card (Indonesian ID cards depict one's religion). I am practically an agnostic. And I preach agnosticism everywhere. I hate my own (official) religion and the devilish prophet.
It is not just because I know Islam deeply first hand but also because I wish to be the part of the “Hidden-Anti Islam individual”. I don’t want to be seen with the Islamists blatantly. Here in Indonesia, there have been many groups who want to enforce Sharias as Indonesian sole Law. Look Indonesian TVs, there are FPI (Islam Defender's Front), Hizbut Tahrir (I don't know what the hell it means.), Majelis Mujahiddin, and so forth. I think, the world must help Indonesia to avoid Sharia as the state law in any way possible, morally up to financially.
In any case, as this is human nature, that islam brings out the worst in Humanity, meet Indonesian honest people who are trying to stop this evil Islamization process. This beloved Indonesia with its traditional mixture of Hindu, Budhis, and moderate Islam culture is being converted into radical and Jihadis Middleeast type of Islamism. I say that religion used to be a mere culture, which is under conversion into a terrifying 'true religion'.
Watch and help us.
Mufassiri (My dad gave me this Islamist name)
I eat pork.
proudChristian #6: "Another
proudChristian #6:
"Another thing many westerners convert to islam is that westerners tend to be naughty and adventurous. They’ll feel bored of their ancestral culture and want to try new things and record historical experiences in their memoirs so they’ll try buddhism, hinduism, satanism, africanism, and in that trend, islam. All is to get peace and hapiness. Whether they find hapiness in islam (as some do stay) I dont know. What i do really know is that islam is bogus!"
Ok, I absolutely agree that Islam is bogus, but some of the other things you said, although there is some truth to them, I think you are entirely dismissive of the reasons why people convert to some of these religions...
Don't forget that if you are of European descent, Christianity is not your ancestral religion. Paganism is. The first Christians in Europe were the hippies and the freaks of Greco-Roman society.
The culture that brought us science and philosophy was Pagan. Paganism looks to nature for answers. Christianity (and Judaism and Islam...) all say that the world is evil, and one must look to holy books for answers, even if what the books say don't make sense.
Don't forget science suffered A LOT under Christianity.
Everybody suffered A LOT when Christianity was the totalitarian organization in Europe. Don't forget what Christians did to non-believers. Even Muslims let Jews and Christians live, albeit under dhimmi laws. Still dhimmi is better than being burned at the stake.
If you use technology, believe in science, then you are following Paganism.
Now, as for Hindus and Buddhists...are you aware of the fact that Buddhists and Hindus don't deny Christ? Actually, they consider Jesus as part of the Crew. I have even seen pictures of Jesus and Mary on both Hindu and Buddhist altars.
So, in typical Abrahamic fashion, how can you think that God sent His one and only true message to the Middle East, and everyone else can go to hell? Don't you think if there is a God, He would try to reach as many people as possible? Why would he pick only the Middle East - the site of the most horrific and barbaric people in the world to send out his message. Yecccchhh!!!!
I have only respect and love for Jesus. What he taught was true Dharma- love, compassion, and forgiveness. Why I become a Buddhist was because I already had beliefs that fit Buddhism. What I get from Buddhism is actual methods to help me be a better person.
If Buddhism was only making me worse, believe me I would drop it like a hot potato.
Another difference between Abrahamic faiths and Hindu, Buddhist, Taoist, etc, is that non-Abrahamic faiths recognize the validity of other belief systems, as long as they are ethical (don't kill, steal, etc.) Since there are many different mentalities, and many different cultures, no one belief system is going to work for everyone. Some even say there are as many religions as there are people.
So, isn't that more spiritually mature?
word of advise: Stay inside a
word of advise: Stay inside a closet. Be a closet apostate for awhile. Apostasy is punishable by death.That is Islam. A one way trip.