Putting Islamic Teaching into Practice: Beating Women
Submitted by Ibn Kammuna on Wed, 02/25/2009 - 07:53
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In a previous article, I showed the reader that Dr. Jamal Badawi is just trying to conceal to western audience that Islam approves of a “good beating” or “good flogging” to the wife by her husband. This matter is very clear when one looks at the Qur’anic verse 4:34, which clearly endorses beating a woman. Hadiths evidence just details stories of how this was done.The Qur’an does not endorse the same privilege to the woman in case her husband is out of line. I would like people who try to defend Islam to come out and tell us that Islam has a Qur’anic verse similar to 4:34, but the woman is the one who will be beating the man. In life, there are many circumstances where the woman is stronger, smarter and has a better judgment than the man. In such a case, shouldn’t Islam give her the right to give her husband a “good flogging” when he steps out of line? The fact of the matter is this: some of Islam’s teachings are barbaric. How can one in his right mind accept verse 4:34 in the Qur’an as divine? It is an evil verse that endorses beating women. Badawi tried to sugar-coat the verse to western audience. But that does not make it any less evil.
In this article, I introduce to the reader video clips showing that Muslim scholars do indeed believe in a good beating to the woman. Some try to make a it very simple and light, but it is still beating. The genuine Islamic teaching is to beat a woman “real good”. The hadiths I used in my previous article prove this very point. In addition, verse 4:34 in the Qur’an talks about “beating”. It does not talk about “gentle” beating by any means, if there is such a concept.
Case 1: Verse 4:34 in the Qur’an is, believe it or not, Miraculous, according the Imam in this video. He even tries to show how miraculous this Qur’anic verse is by showing that there are three types of women who need a “good beating”. This Islamic Imam is unapologetic to the world about wife beating. He sees the Qur’an as his manual, and so, wife beating comes with the territory. This is actually true Islam. My previous article showed that. Here is the video:
Case 2: Here is another unapologetic Imam about beating women. The reader who read my previous article knows that beating a wife can be severe. The Hadiths just caution about not breaking bones. That’s all. Here is the video:
Case 3: Here is a “wise” Imam who clearly is against wife beating, and so he explains away the truth:
Case 4: Here is the truth about how Muslim women live in Islamic countries. I am sure any decent human being who tries to defend the Qur’an as exemplified in verse 4:34 will change his/her mind once this video is viewed:
Case 5: Beating is “Therapy” (and who said Muslim apologetics don't have a sense of humor!!) - Here is a video that proves that one can look as civil as the next guy on the street. It does not make him any less of an idiot. I am sorry; I just can’t tolerate people who believe that a man can beat his wife. Sugar-coating Evil (i.e. verse 4:34) is just as Evil:
Submitted by Allahmiyan (not verified) on Wed, 02/25/2009 - 11:31.
I think it is good to beat a Muslimah wives like "James Gand 007". They are so Islamic Ho Ho Ho !!!, one can't help beating those cretins. Ha Ha Ha Ha
Just look at any Cultist : All male cultists approve polygamy but not a single Islamic or Christian cultist approve polyandry.
For the Islamic and Christian Cultists ; only the Male has the right: Female has no right. One finds the same rule among the Animals and the primitive sub-human. It is the physical strength what matters. Intellect and human intelligence have no meaning for the Cultists.
Forget about the Inhuman Islamic sub humans ; the Christian British law of the 19th century was treating woman as some property of the man. And "James Gand 007" sounds very much like a British Christian Bastard. Ha Ha Ha or an Indian whose Gand(ass) Father was a British Christian Bastard.
""These laws, which I’ve blogged about before, are not the only idiotic laws in the IPC, which was drafted in the 19th century by the British. There’s 292, and 295 (a), and 377, and so on and on and on. We’ve thrown the British out, but, as if out of a perverse nostalgia, retained some of the worst things they left us, long after the British themselves have modernized. Such it goes… "" Read more ---
Submitted by ibrahim (not verified) on Wed, 02/25/2009 - 15:56.
the gist is that, the onus of not getting beate up by their husbands lies on the women. Mashallah what logic. Do Muslims use more than 2000 of their brain cells?
Submitted by Komal (not verified) on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 07:41.
Sahih al-Bukhari 6845—Narrated Aisha: Abu Bakr came to towards me and struck me violently with his fist and said, "You have detained the people because of your necklace." But I remained motionless as if I was dead lest I should awake Allah's Apostle although that hit was very painful.
Sahih al-Bukhari 5204—Narrated Abdullah bin Zam’a: “The prophet said, ‘None of you should flog his wife as he flogs a slave and then have sexual intercourse with her in the last part of the day.’”
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I think it is good to beat a
I think it is good to beat a Muslimah wives like "James Gand 007". They are so Islamic Ho Ho Ho !!!, one can't help beating those cretins. Ha Ha Ha Ha
Just look at any Cultist : All male cultists approve polygamy but not a single Islamic or Christian cultist approve polyandry.
For the Islamic and Christian Cultists ; only the Male has the right: Female has no right. One finds the same rule among the Animals and the primitive sub-human. It is the physical strength what matters. Intellect and human intelligence have no meaning for the Cultists.
Forget about the Inhuman Islamic sub humans ; the Christian British law of the 19th century was treating woman as some property of the man. And "James Gand 007" sounds very much like a British Christian Bastard. Ha Ha Ha or an Indian whose Gand(ass) Father was a British Christian Bastard.
""These laws, which I’ve blogged about before, are not the only idiotic laws in the IPC, which was drafted in the 19th century by the British. There’s 292, and 295 (a), and 377, and so on and on and on. We’ve thrown the British out, but, as if out of a perverse nostalgia, retained some of the worst things they left us, long after the British themselves have modernized. Such it goes… "" Read more ---
http://www.indiauncut.com/iublog/article/women-as-property-of-men/
Ibn Kammuna;
Not just Islam , Christianity also treats Woman as some Thing not as some Being.
Have a nice day.
the gist is that, the onus of
the gist is that, the onus of not getting beate up by their husbands lies on the women. Mashallah what logic. Do Muslims use more than 2000 of their brain cells?
No man can win against any
No man can win against any woman without physical violence.
So what is wrong about Muslims; Muslim male or Christian male if they restore to physical violence against their Woman?.
Fact is silencing an woman (by using violence)and winning over an woman's heart and mind are different things.
That's the reason why Taliban want to destroy all Girls Schools.
#3 The difference between
#3
The difference between the Muslim male and the Xtian male if that the Muslim male has allah's approval to beat women.
Bible god said love your one wife as yourself.
Xtian girls attend school with boys.
Sahih al-Bukhari
Sahih al-Bukhari 6845—Narrated Aisha: Abu Bakr came to towards me and struck me violently with his fist and said, "You have detained the people because of your necklace." But I remained motionless as if I was dead lest I should awake Allah's Apostle although that hit was very painful.
Sahih al-Bukhari 5204—Narrated Abdullah bin Zam’a: “The prophet said, ‘None of you should flog his wife as he flogs a slave and then have sexual intercourse with her in the last part of the day.’”
Brother Komal thank you for
Brother Komal
thank you for adding the above hadiths brother. I've seen them too before, but good and thoughtful addition here.
Peace
Further videos on wife
Further videos on wife beating instructions:
http://videobomb.com/posts/show/19006
Sheik Abd Al-Hamid Al-Muhajir explains wifebeating on Syrian TV on july 26, 2004:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJkmRBEOC3o
Abdullah Aal Mehmud, cleric from Bahrain on Bahrain TV on June 20, 2005
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp3Eam5FX58
Mufti Ali Gomaa of Egypt on Al Risala TV (Saudi Arabia) on May 26, 2006:
http://www.markazislam.com/view/ljyc5m880/wife-beating-in-islam-more-rules/
Dr. Ismail Nawada, Palestinian cleric, on Palestinian TV, on March 14, 2007:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUEhZuP1Yb4
Dr. Ghazi al-Shimari on Saudi channel, Iqra TV, on May 9, 2007:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfPSN_92v2w
Dr. Ahmad al-Tayyeb, President of Al-Azhar University and former Mufti of Egypt, on Egyptian channel, Nile News TV on May 25, 2007:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUkAuymu9hM
Muhammad al-Arifi, Saudi cleric, on Lebanese TV, on September 9, 2007:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7-9xeJZObk
Galal Al-Khatib, Egyptian cleric, on Egyptian channel, Al-Rahma TV, on December 24, 2008:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=465c2eQf6tc
A video compilation of arab clerics on the issue of wife beating:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mM9Tw4z0N98
The infamous case of Saudi TV hostess, Ranya al-Baz and her abusive husband, Muhammad Bakr Yunis on Saudi channel, MBC TV, on August 1, 2004:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJOrvXELg-I
A woman's perspective on muslim men and wifebeating:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFr0JtsA_c8&NR=1
You ought to add these to your list.