Releasing the Bond
Submitted by Ibn Kammuna on Tue, 02/17/2009 - 07:46
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I am not a young lad anymore. I don't regret growing older. It is nice. Your chemical balance gets better. Thats how it is in my case. I had always had objections to Islam, even at a young age. I thought it was just “stupid” of a god to allow men to have many wives, to make “Wudu”. To believe that the almighty, the creator of the universe, is worried when you passed gas or did not pass gas.It is just ludicrous. Then what about the “battles” of the Prophet. They were not battles. They were more like “looting campaigns”. The Arabs called them “Ghazwas”. Do you know what a Ghazwa is? It is no more than a group of thugs attacking some innocent people to get some booty. And a lot of booty Muhammad and his gang gained. They usually killed the adult men, raped and enslaved the women, and enslaved the children. Some stories tell us that Muhammad sold some of the women captives to buy more weapons. That way, he had enough supplies to make more Ghazwas and get more booty. The cycle continues in that way. You see, when you gain power in few Ghazwas, you accumulate more fortune, and so, you will be likely to succeed in future Ghazwas. It is an “exponential” trend as mathematicians call it.
Have you ever played chess? What happens in chess is very interesting. When you lose a piece, you will be more likely to lose another piece, then another, then another. That how it was with Muhammad. Except he was on the winning side. It is a cyclical trend. He was the “King” on the chess board of life. Omar was the Queen, an arrogant ruthless man indeed. The other Sahabas were the Bishops, Knights and Rooks. What about the Pawns. Well there are eight of them on the board. Those are the Jihadis. They don't have much value. They can be sacrificed easily. For a gain or a misjudgment, they can be sacrificed. Not too much of a loss. Muhammad sacrificed thousands of them. All he had to do is tell them things they liked; that Sex, Wine, beautiful women called Houris, are all were waiting for them in the whore house/Brothel called Islamic heaven. They believed Muhammad. He was one of the greatest con artists of their time, yet, they believed him. But why? Why would any human being believe lies? Well, to them there was no lies for the most part. But, it is still not an easy question for me to ponder.. Why? Why, in God's name, Why? Why would someone believe a lie? Are we humans not rational enough to know better?
I got a letter from a young lady, barely twenty years of age. She accused me of lying about Islam. According to her, I manipulated the facts. She told me Islam is true no matter what, that she will always be a Muslimah. I do not know why she told me that. I never asked her to leave the faith. But she insisted that Islam is the true faith, that she will never leave it, that I am lying about Islam. I told her that I do not lie, but rather research the Qur'an, the Hadith, and the Sirat. But she insisted that I manipulate the facts. I tried to narrow things down. I told her that Muhammad was an assassin. He sent his henchmen to kill a very old man called Abu Afak, and a mother of five; Asma bint Marwan. I gave her the book's title and the author's name so that she can find it in her public library. That way she can go and check out my story. Maybe I was lying. She deserves to know. All she needed to so is go to the public library, and check out my story. Well, she did not do that. Instead, she emailed me and told me that Islam is correct, that I tell lies, and that she won't be writing to me anymore. That is fine. But why not go to the library and check our the truth or falsity of my story. Doesn't she deserve to know?
This brings me to the title of this article “Releasing the Bond”. When one has a cult mentality, truth is immaterial. It is not important. What is important is to keep the belief system indoctrinated by the leader intact. In cults, there is an unquestioning loyalty to the leader. This is what the young lady is doing. In cults, the member has a polarized mentality of “us” against “them”. In cults, critical voices are silenced. This young lady wanted me to “stop” lying. All I do is research issues and report them. This is lying according to a good Muslimah, because it does not agree with her cultic picture of the universe. She could not take any criticism of Muhammad. I wanted her to go to the public library, and check out the truth about what I was telling her. But, alas, she would not even do that. She could not handle the thought that her cult leader was an assassin. To her mind he was her idol, her Prophet, her ideal love. The sad part is how difficult it is to discuss matters in a rational way with a dogmatic Muslim person who is only twenty years old. In a cult, members rationalize the actions of their leader. If that lady went to the public library and found out that Muhammad was in fact an assassin, do you think the story would end here and she would leave Islam? I wish the answer was “yes”, but it is not. Cult members learn to rationalize the conduct of their leader no matter how evil it is. No action by the leader is condemned. He is the authority. Whatever he says, members follow like sheep led to the slaughter. But why can't they just leave the cult? Well, it is not as easy as we think. When humans are in a cult mentality/community, things are not so simple as to pick up and leave.
Doris Lessing writes:
Leaving such a group was a flight because the group’s reaction was known to be severe and punitive. Apostates were excommunicated. It was not uncommon for ex-converts to fear that they had been damned or had lost their souls as a consequence of leaving the group. (In some cases, former members were convinced the group would hunt them down and kill them.) Many went through months of struggle to re-establish their lives, wrestling with the questions How could I have been involved in such a thing? How could I have done what I did to other members of the group? Were my spiritual longings all false? Who and what can I trust? At the same time, the closeness the group offered was often sorely missed, and until the ex-member’s life was reconstituted, he or she wondered at times if leaving the group had been a mistake. This turmoil gradually diminished, but for many a sense of shame for having participated in the cult and a frustrated rage at having been betrayed lingered for a long time.
How can they leave then? I wish I have a simple answer. People are different. They are not a “production line”. As for the cult of Islam, it is even more difficult. The cult has spread out so much, and thought of as a major religion, that makes it so hard to even criticize such a cult. But people can leave, and do leave. The movements of ex-Muslims are coming out everywhere. They need the fullness of our support. They are the wall that will stand up to the cult itself and shake its founder and its foundation. They need our love and support. They are the sunshine I see and touch. They are the sunrise from the west, the north, the south, and the east. They are the best thing that the world has seen since the invention of sliced bread.
Moscums behave in a
Moscums behave in a predictable way, no matter which part of the earth they hail from! The farther from the makkah they are the worse it gets.The indian and paki moscums think they are purer than the Arab moscums and soon they land in barbaria, the illusion is shattered.
Every msocum should be sent a copy of the FFI articles.I do not see any hope in the mentality of miscums, but then again let us hope against hope that the moscums have some brain tissue still left.
1. Quote from article: “They
1. Quote from article:
“They believed Muhammad. He was one of the greatest con artists of their time, yet, they believed him. But why? Why would any human being believe lies? Well, to them there was no lies for the most part. But, it is still not an easy question for me to ponder. Why? Why, in God’s name, Why? Why would someone believe a lie? Are we humans not rational enough to know better?”
Like all successful conmen, all Muhammad had to do was to tell people what they WANTED to hear. The rest was easy.
For example, if your wife asked you “does this dress make me look fat?’ What would the smart husband do for the sake of marital harmony, when he knows it actually does? Lie of course and tell her no, because you know she does not want to hear the truth, especially if she loves the dress and spent a lot of money on it.
Politicians do it all the time and get away with it. “Vote for me and you will get jobs, land, homes, more money, etc.” Without fail the gullible sheep line up to vote for him.
Sigh, that’s life! Barney Barnato truthfully said: “There’s a sucker born every minute.” Emotions trump reason all the time!
2. Quote from article:
“When one has a cult mentality, truth is immaterial. It is not important. What is important is to keep the belief system indoctrinated by the leader intact.”
People who join and remain in cults such as Islam do so because they lack direction and purpose in their sad little lives. They NEED and WANT to be told what to do, so that they can be spared the task of thinking for themselves. The whole way of life concept appeals to them and suits them perfectly. All is laid out for them – when and how to pray, what, when and how to eat, who to love and who to hate, when and how to enter and use the toilet, down to every little detail of their lives. If they have a little problem, ask the imam.
Take their cult away and they do not know what to do with their lives and are miserable. Take away a baby’s pacifier and he throws a tantrum. Criticize their cult and you have a tantrum. So sad!
We have a lucid, beautifully
We have a lucid, beautifully written, erudite article, full of compassion. It's immediately followed, unfortunately, by a vulgar, childish rant, full of disrespect and downright hatred.
I wish the moderators would clean this filth away, as it does no good at all and simply damages the integrity of this site.
And regarding the very juvenile comment "The farther from the makkah they are the worse it gets" You have obviously never traveled my friend. Indonesia, far from Mecca, is full of wonderful, loving people
Ibn Kammuna; Hats off to you
Ibn Kammuna; Hats off to you , brilliant comparison: The chess board and Islam!!
And a billion pawns (read Jihadis).
The Kings , the Queens and all the other powers like Osama binLund, HamAss, HabsiAllah etc. are hiding behind the Pawns(Poor gullible Muslim civilian Suicide bombers ). The proud Muslims. Ha Ha Ha
Great article, "Ibn Kammuna" you have a good sense of humor.
You have rightly said--
"--The cult Islam has spread out so much, and thought of as a major religion, that makes it so hard to even criticize such a cult. But people can leave, and do leave. The movements of ex-Muslims are coming out everywhere. They need the fullness of our SUPPORT."
But that SUPPORT should never be Evil CHRISTIANITY as that is also a cult (apparently looking less Evil). Don't encourage ex-Muslims to convert to equally evil cult Christianity. That will be like the saying " Jumping from the frying pane in to the fire".
Peace brother.
Oh Indonesia? The kafirs who
Oh Indonesia? The kafirs who still remember Ramayana and named their airlines Garuda? Right. The same people who bombed the disco in Bali? Moscums are so predictable.Incidentally assumptions do not make facts.Have I nit travelled?? 72 countries if you want the count and certainly east timor!
Bali Bombing is the symptom of the islamic disease.Indonesians are considered as kafirs by sodis and they get indonesian maids only for islamic use in sodi barbaria.
"Ibn Kammuna" How right you
"Ibn Kammuna" How right you are: you said ----
"----truth is IMMATERIAL . It is not important. What is important is to keep the belief system indoctrinated by the leader intact. In cults, there is an unquestioning loyalty to the leader. This is what the young lady is doing. In cults, the member has a polarized mentality of “us” against “them”. In cults, critical voices are silenced----"
Truth is never IMMATERIAL and Truth has nothing to do with any Belief System. Truth has nothing to do with any Mob Mentality.No personality. It is Individuality. Truth can be found by some Individual, who has found his/her Individuality.
No belief systems like Islam or Christianity can help any human being to find their INDIVIDUALITY hence Truth.
All the Cults like Islam and Christianity need Mobs , Mob mentality , for political power over people.Ibn Kammuna If you don't know these facts then you are also a blind believer like any Muslim or any Christian.
Funny isn't it?? Peace brother.
Ibn Kammuna; A personal
Ibn Kammuna; A personal request from Halapork; Please write some thing out of your own , Individual Experience, not just borrowed knowledge. You are an intelligent Individual not just a Person I think.
Peace brother, not just funny.
No inhuman Christian can
No inhuman Christian can invite any Inhuman Muslim to Humanity.
Halalpork. You are so right
Halalpork.
You are so right about this kammuna fellow, if one can identify cultic behaviors of Islam why not Christianity, I hate to sound as if trying to divert the thread, but wouldn't it be hypocritical to punish a thief that was caught in the act and release the other thief that was convicted through a valid evidence without punishing him/her?
I've also noticed how some individuals on this site love to say that Jesus was a gentle guy, well he could be a good guy only if one consider him as just a human being who lived in the said era and tried to bring better morality to the people, the very second anyone believes Jesus is lord or a part of the trinity then Jesus becomes part of the god that commanded all the psychotic killings in the OT, the genocidal flood and all other atrocities ever committed on this planet, why did I say this, because he is god.
We all love to see the demise of Islam, but hey, have you heard about Gary North and his crazy movement? what about the daily beef between Christians and other believers not necessarily muslims?, what about the general negative influence both the religions cause to out scientific development and acceptance, it is better to point to it if it is wrong, no ideology is perfect, but the cultic ones are by far the worst.
paulo says You have
paulo says
You have obviously never traveled my friend. Indonesia, far from Mecca, is full of wonderful, loving people
My friend, Indonesia is not the only Islamic country in this world. Look at you neighbor Malaysia and the people living there. Better still why don't you visit Pakistan and Afghanistan or maybe India and see how beautifuly the Muslims are following their cult. Indonesia has a large Muslim concentration, the biggest in this world. However these Muslims area not really Muslims per say as they follow heretical sects and have heretical practices which would be an abomination to the Muslims even from Malaysia.
islam is a religion of
islam is a religion of peace.check this link-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqK9APzPOVM&feature=related
Excellent article Ibn Kamuna.
Excellent article Ibn Kamuna. Sometimes I do think that God did allow Islam to flourish so that for true christians to realize how precious their faith is in terms of freedom, hope and strength they have in Christ.
"Sometimes I do think that
"Sometimes I do think that God did allow Islam to flourish so that for true christians to realize how precious..etc"
I just can't believe that some one can think this way! so let's see
God allowed the Muslims to kill 20-40 Millions people so that our beloved Christians realize how precious is their faith. So God allowed 9/11 so that our beloved christians realize...etc and on and on. What kind of a God is this God. Do we really want to follow such a God. ProudChristian wake up!
HalalPork Great comments! thank you!
Muslim apologist's and owner
Muslim apologist's and owner of T.V. station beheads wife.
Founder of Islamic TV station, Muzzammil Hassan, has confessed to beheading wife in Buffalo NY, his TV Station balanced negative
NEW YORK (CNN) --February 17th, 2009. The founder of an Islamic television station in upstate New York (Buffalo) aimed at countering Muslim stereotypes has confessed to the horrific murder of beheading his wife, authorities said. It was Aasiya Hassan who encouraged her businessman husband, Muzzammil Hassan, to launch the cable channel, Bridges TV.Muzzammil Hassan was charged with second-degree murder after police found the decapitated body of his wife, Aasiya Hassan, at the Bridges TV station in the Buffalo suburb of Orchard Park, said Andrew Benz, Orchard Park's police chief. Hassan was arrested Thursday.His wife filed for divorce January 6, and police had responded to several domestic violence calls at the couple's home, Benz said. Aasiya Hassan had obtained an order of protection on Feb. 6, barring her husband from their home in Orchard Park, police said.Hassan went directly to the police station after his wife's death and confessed to killing her, Benz told CNN. Benz declined to give further details. He had two children, 4 and 6, with his wife. He had two other children, 17 and 18, from his previous marriage. He launched Bridges TV, billed as the first English-language cable channel targeting Muslims inside the United States, in 2004. At the time, Hassan said he hoped the network would balance negative portrayals of Muslims following the attacks of September 11, 2001. The television channel, which Hassan had founded after leaving a job at M&T Bank, had been under financial strain, said Khalid J. Qazi, president of the Muslim Public Affairs Council of Western New York. Published reports said that the venture was seeking new investors and battling cable carriers for access to a bigger audience. In late 2006 a report in Arab News quoted Hassan saying he was trying to raise $5 million from investors in Saudi Arabia. Bridges TV CEO Arrested for Beheading Wife Received Award from CAIR US News. The founder and CEO of the Islamist channel Bridges TV, arrested for beheading his wife after she filed for divorce, was given an award in 2007 by the Hamas-linked Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR).See also...Are Honor Killings Simply Domestic Violence? by Phyllis Chesler, Middle East QuarterlySpring 2009. On February 12, 2009, Muzzammil Hassan informed police that he had beheaded his wife. Hassan had emigrated to the United States 30 years ago and, after a successful banking career, had founded Bridges TV, a Muslim-interest network which aims, according to its website, "to foster a greater understanding among many cultures and diverse populations."Erie County District Attorney Frank A. Sedita III told The Buffalo News that "this is the worst form of domestic violence possible," and Khalid Qazi, president of the Muslim Public Affairs Council of Western New York, told the New York Post that Islam forbids such domestic violence. While Muslim advocacy organizations argue that honor killings are a misnomer stigmatizing Muslims for what is simply domestic violence, a problem that has nothing to do with religion, Phyllis Chesler, who just completed a study of more than 50 instances of North American honor killings, says the evidence suggest otherwise. — The Editors, Middle East Quarterly."When a husband murders a wife or daughter in the United States and Canada, too often law enforcement chalks the matter up to domestic violence. Murder is murder; religion is irrelevant. Honor killings are, however, distinct from wife battering and child abuse"
BUSTED DIVINITY Christianity
BUSTED DIVINITY
Christianity is not Christiendom. Jesus started the religion of Christianity. CONSTANTINE CREATED Christendom under Roman Catholicism at Nicea in 325 CE. Christianity follows the bible not any other man but Jesus Christ. Jesus never said kill unbelievers. The bible said one wife and one husband.
The bible said slavery was equal to sodomy and let God take care of the sinners. How can one repent dead.
Excellent article. By the
Excellent article.
By the way where are the moderators?
“Sometimes I do think that
“Sometimes I do think that God did allow Islam to flourish so that for true christians to realize how precious..etc”
I just can’t believe that some one can think this way! so let’s see
God allowed the Muslims to kill 20-40 Millions people so that our beloved Christians realize how precious is their faith. So God allowed 9/11 so that our beloved christians realize…etc and on and on. What kind of a God is this God. Do we really want to follow such a God. ProudChristian wake up!
HalalPork Great comments! thank you!
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AntiOrganizedReligion...I don't think you understand even simple english. What proudchristian said is just his own thought "SOME TIME I DO THINK"...He (proudchristian) did not specifically say "GOD ALLOWED" he merely say "SOME TIME I DO THINK" that is his personal opinion not what the bible said.
The way you twisted the word is worse that the muscum!!! the same goes to your friend HALALPORK...
From Swat valley, Taliban
From Swat valley, Taliban threats reach NY shores
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/World/Taliban-threats-reach-NY-shores...
[...] the LB wrote an
[...] the LB wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptI gave her the book’s title and the author’s name so that she can find it in her public library. That way she can go and check out my story. Maybe I was lying. She deserves to know. All she needed to so is go to the public library, and check out my story. Well, she did not do that. … This turmoil gradually diminished, but for many a sense of shame for having participated in the cult and a frustrated rage at having been betrayed lingered for a long time. … [...]
When statue of liberty dawns
When statue of liberty dawns the burqa, that will be the day, mashaallah!
Habshit says: "When statue of
Habshit says:
"When statue of liberty dawns the burqa, that will be the day, mashaallah!"
For our information -
"dawns" is when the sun rises.
"dons" is when something is worn
I prefer my version to yours.
"When the House of the Kaaba sheds its pretty silk burqa and reveals the ugly granite it hides, that will make my day, insha allah."
What do other readers here think?
Habshi & Shafee al-Zindig ;
Habshi & Shafee al-Zindig ; I think both of you are correct -- as far as the BURQA is concerned.
The day the Muscums try to cover The Statue of liberty with their Islamic Burqa --- Kaaba with its ugly silk Burqa and dirty Ugly granite will vaporize for good. Or should I say: sent to Kingdom Come.
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Our baby Missionary "Tuvong" seems to have blown her top off. Ha Ha Ha
All Missionaries same as their brethren Muscum Mullahs know what their God/ Allah dalla thinks, acts and writes in Qurand, Old/New testicles.
They get their instructions directly from Allah Dalla and Abrahamic God/ Jehovah . Same as Muscum MoHamMad was getting from Allah the Pimp.
Wishing the cretins Good Sundays and Fridays. Ha Ha Ha Ha
Halalpork786 we are not lucky
Halalpork786 we are not lucky as ur, u make ur own gods with plaster of paris and some iron rods worship them for 7 to 9 days and throw them into water,your god krishna never said to arjun to kill their kin for the sake of kingdom,ram never killed any one.what i want to say is this site is to discuss islam not another religion, my request is do not go astray stick to the point.
#22DREAMLUND; How nice of
#22DREAMLUND;
How nice of you to find a God for me Who is made of"" plaster of paris and some iron rods"" and not a Pedophile like MoHamMad and not a son of some Virgin whore. Ha Ha Ha
==my request is do not go astray stick to the point.== Holds good for you also BABY.
Look and search for God
Look and search for God inside you! No need to search anywhere else.The devil inside is always closely shadowing god and takes over quickly if you are not alert! its called conscience.good deed God's help and conscience does not keep you awake at night.Bad deed, its devils work and if you have conscience( not applicable for moslems on killin spree and christians who have killed enough) it will prick you. The reason why bible and qrand are evil is because they both teach you to kill with out a care or concern if they dont belong to the sect.Conscience is the spirit of god that tells you what is good from what is bad!
proudkafir Says: : The reason
proudkafir Says: : The reason why bible and qrand are evil is because they both teach you to kill with out a care or concern if they dont belong to the sect. Yes we r the one who kill our woman for the sake dowary, by burning them, hang them,beat them and do what ever we can for the sake of dowary,there is a law against dowary but we still practise with out fear.We r the one who kill female fetus, for this reason government has to bring a law banning indentification of fetus in the womb.You can count number of persons killed by these two but there are no numbers for yours.
proudkafir i request u to
proudkafir i request u to stick to the topic islam & mohammad, i think u will behave like a grown up child
Habshi wrote: "When statue
Habshi wrote:
"When statue of liberty dawns the burqa, that will be the day, mashaallah!"
Over my dead body!
Evilbible.com please read on
Evilbible.com please read on and on about the evil of christianity!
[...] few days ago, I came
[...] few days ago, I came across an article by Ibn Kammuna entitled ‘Releasing the Bond’ at Faith Freedom International’s website which illustrated clearly the problem with [...]