Can Apostates Revert to Islam?

An excellent response!

Wonderfull Ali Sina. Wonderfull!!!!!!!!!!. You simply rock...
Happy New Year to you and to FFI readers and authers.

As usual a great thoughtful reply from Ali Sina. But sadly I don't share his optimism about the demise of Islam. Just tell me Mr.Sina how many muslims have access to internet connection and moreover how many of them watch your website. A meagre few hundreds/thousands among a billion. That's too low a ratio. Telling the truth about Islam on internet is an easy thing and an easy path won't lead to a destination which is full of agony and bloodshed.
You have to do much more than write on internet Mr.Sina. You have to be bold enough and come out in the open. Team up with the mainstream media, television channels and newspapers and come live on TV and say to the whole world what you say on the internet. True, your life will be in tremendous danger once you do that but you will have to face it. Great wars have been won by soldiers by shedding their own blood, not by preaching in the shadows.

India has been bearing the brunt of Islamic terrorism since the last 15 years, the recent most being the Mumbai bomb blast. But this coward nation hasn't learnt a thing. None of the mainstream newspapers and TV channels have had the guts to say openly that 'Islam is the cause of terrorism and Koran preaches hatred'. What a shame. All of them are pointing fingers towards Pakistan but then they conviniently forget that last many bomb blasts have been carried out by home grown jihadi organisations which have killed more than a thousand people and injured many more.

Wouldn't it be great if all those people who have been injured, and whose near and dear ones have died in terror attacks come together under one umbrella and shout loudly on TV that 'Islam is a religion of terror' . This one courageous action would send a shiver across the whole indian establishment.
But who will bell the cat?
Who will take this first bold step?

In the Mumbai terror attack, a Taj Hotel General Manager Mr.Karambir Kang lost his two sons and his wife but he bravely remained there in the hotel carrying out his duty and saved many people on that dreadful night.
Hats off to this brave man. But wouldn't be great if he takes one step further, comes live on television and shout 'The real terror is Islam, Pakistan is just a small part of it.' He is a popular man now. Media will be hungry for his soundbites and moreover he has nothing more to lose.

Islam cannot be wiped out without taking direct action. It can be only fought though mainstreem media which is directly watched by millions of people.
Internet alone cannot do much. We must have the courage to die for the cause . As long as fear death, we cannot conquer islam. Islam can only be brought down through direct confrontation which will unfortunately bring great misery and bloodshed. We must prepare ourselves for that.

Brother Sina, hello
U write so well brother. I need to take some writing courses man.
Anyway, there is a movie I watched sometime ago. I think the title was something like "The gods must be crazy". In it, a glass bottle (like old Pepsi bottles) is thrown from an airplane, and lands unbroken on the ground. The tribe finds it and thinks its the greatest thing since it came from the heavens. They used that bottle in so many industrious ways.. making bread, ..etc. this bottle story came to mind because of the Qur'an while reading your article. Qur'an is a bunch of nonsense filled with a lot of threats. But, Muslims are using it in so many ways its not even funny. I guess what I am saying is that we humans have tendencies to make sense of utter nonsense like the Qur'an, or an empty old Pepsi bottle. Peace

I traveled a lot in the Muslim world until 1975, Islam was nowhere nearly as rigid as it is today. A lot of it is due to the 1973 oil crisis which flooded the coffers of the worst adherents but I suspect a very large part is due to the internet. For the very first time millions of Muslims saw a lot of the idiocy with which they were raised and began asking questions, the mullahs cannot answer them so they are intent on shooting the messenger. What we are seeing now the the desperate stand of the mullahs and their despots which is why things have gotten so dangerous, if one falls the other goes down with them.

In response to Raakshas:

Ali Sina is doing just the right thing to do when dealing with Muslims. He has to live a normal life also especially if he has his own family to take care of. I also wanted to take the next step in fighting the evil Islam but because I have my family to worry about, I can only do this here in the internet. My wife usually tells me to stop what I'm doing for my family's sake but I can't help reading and posting here in FFI. This is just so addictive. I don't even have to post anything.

You have to know Islam and its followers to understand their nature. At first when I saw the neww FFI site, I was worried the Muslims were able to hack this site and posted a fake website to lure the readers away from the real FFI. It happened before with the website Islam.com. The website existed only as a mirror and nothing more.

Maybe when I get old and my children are old enough to take care of themselves, I will organize a group of protestors courageous enough to stage in front of a mosque with a big banner, "Islam is from Satan!" In fact the best way to stage this protest is in front of Muslims protesting for palestinians in Gaza. Muslims were burning the flag of Israel, I want to burn the flag of Palestinians and a whole bunch of Qur'ans as well. That would really show Islam is peace when Muslims turn to devil posessed beings.

Are you guys free thinker or what? Why do you have to provoke people like this? What do you believe? I dont see the direction of this website?

As you all know, Islam brings peace. We're not bombing and attack anyone without reason. There must be a reason. This is normal if you have reason to fight for. Let's say you own a land. Then some people from nowhere comes to your place and take it from you without any reason. Are you guys going to sit down and cry or are you going to fight for it?

Why must hate Islam? Why not jews? Jews bombing all over palestines. In fact we all know jews seized Palestine from its people. Is this all right to you guys?

Jews is only for jews. No other race can embrace jews religion and be a rabbi. Jews caourage its people to kill and rape other than jews.

If this website's direction is for peaceful and peace, show me some? But where? I can't see that this is the website for love and peaceful.

Whatever happened to Muhabilla ? Did that guy reply back ?

In Response to Muhaimin:

The FFI web sites is showing the "other face" if Islam, FFI is saying that Islam can not be a religion of peace and justify war, killing, rape, woman injustices etc for Allahs cause or of the extension of Islam at the same time (provoked or unprovoked in my opinion). It's one thing or nothing. In my opinion when push comes to shove, the only thing not permitted under Islam is polytheism (but Muslim is allowed to pretend to worship another god just to trick people); anything else is justifiable and permitted if it’s for the cause of Allah. This was true in Muhammad’s day and is true now. Muhammad and Muslim’s today use this reasoning to justify every action. Muslim's are only following Muhammad’s actions and deeds and they are required to do this.

It is clear that for Muslims in the west they generally follow the “peaceful” side of Islam and the Muslims in the east generally follow more the ‘war” part of Islam. And both east and west justify Muhammad’s actions to suits their environment. The Muslims in the east choose the peaceful part for now because it suits their situation, or because they don’t know any better, or because they choose not to look at the other part, or because they are in the minority. Peace in Islam only means only thing, and that is when Islam is in full control, then there will be peace in Islam’s terms. Peace is not when there is a gun pointed at ones head. Always in Islam the argument is “what would you do if someone took your land…” We know that Muhammad clams that Adam was a Muslim through to all the prophets were a Muslim’s, so if that were that case and under the argument “what would you do if someone took your land” then, “We” as in all non-Muslims all took the Muslims land as Muslims existed first, therefore it’s the duty of all Muslims to take back what all non Muslims took. There is your reason, this is the duty for ALL Muslims.

As for the killings in Gaza and Israel it’s an awful thing but and eye for and eye has to stop on both sides. But the solution is an easy one and implementation impossible. Take the temple mount the al-aqsa mosque and dump it in the Sinai and everyone stop believing in Muhammad and Allah. One may ask why Islam on not Judaism, well the world does not see world wide any Jewish suicide bombers killing people of the cause of their religion or because Hamas are firing rockets into Israel. There are no Bali bombings and the like because of this. Israel just defend what they have like any other nation does. But if the Jewish religion not being around helps the cause then good bye that that also. This may be a stupid thing to say but I always think what if. As a side note it is always interesting to see that when Muslims kill each other (like the Turks to the Arminians, Sadam and the Kurd’s....) there is not a single out cry from the Muslim world say Muslims are being killed condemn, condemn, codemn. Why?

“Jews caourage its people to kill and rape other than Jews.” There is no where in the bible and Jewish books that encourages rape and killings of other people other then Jews. That’s is not God’s design, God’s makeup, God's purpose. God’s design and purpose for the Jewish nation (and everyone one) was for repentance, forgiveness, salvation and redemption. This is a recurring theme for humanity through out the old and new testament. God wanted his people/us back, back from sin, God wants this even today. Please take some time to read the torah, Pentateuch, Old Testament (start Exodus). As for Allah and Muhammad, rap today is permitted/justified, woman cruelties today are permitted/justified, killing today is permitted/justified, lying (Taqiyya) cheating stealing is today permitted/justified, and anything today is permitted/justified IF it’s for the cause of Allah. And it most often is.

So FFI asks why should people want to follow the actions and deeds of person like Muhammad and Islam? Look what this is doing to the world. If non-Muslims misunderstand the quran, then help non-Muslims understand. FFI encourages Muslims to put forward decent arguments and not just say “Islam is a religion of piece” or Allah knows best or Allah has stopped your heart from understanding. Explain and debate the how’s and why’s of it. FFI wants Muslims to respond to Islamic criticism in a scholarly way and not constantly vilify and murder those who question Islam. I essence this is what FFI is saying, this is the direction of the web site. FFI does not hate Muslims just Islam for what it preaches.

If people must have to follow someone as a “good exemplar”, follow Jesus Christ or Budda or some Hindu god etc.

Pray for peace and hope.

Regards,

Muhaimin,

Muslims are the ones occupying Israel not Palestinians. Palestinians or Philistines dissapeared long time ago when David beheaded their best fighter named Goliath. The Israelites kicked their butts to extinction just like the Israelites kicking Muslims' butts to extinction now in Gaza. Now who's side is Allah on now? Better yet, Muslims should thank Israel for sending 400 and counting Muslims to paradise. Muslims said they're martyrs right? Why are Muslims mad at Israel for sending those martyrs to paradise? Israel is just doing Allah's will. Don't get mad at Israel, get mad at your Allah. I just can't understand this Islamic logic. Can any Muslims explain this one to me?

By the way, whatever happened to your Islamic scripture about Israelis hiding behind a rock and tree and the rock and tree will say to the Muslims, there's a jew hiding behind me, kill him? Seems like your own islamic scripture predicted your own predicament. Muslims are the ones hiding behind anything including women and children and still get killed by the Israelis. Don't you Muslims ever wonder about such predictions, that Muhammad's curse against the jews befell upon your own people? So the Bible is right then when it says "anyone curses the Israelites the curse will come back to them ten fold"? Give this some thought will you?

ประวัติความเป็นมาของศาสนาอิสลามที่แท้จริงที่คนมุสลิมอยากลืมอดีตของตนแต่ก็หนีตัวเองไม่พ้น ศาสนาอิสลามเป็นศาสนาที่เกิดขึ้นที่เมืองเมกกะประเทศซาอุดิอาระเบียโดยมีอัลเลาะห์เป็นศาสดาของศาสนาอิสลาม แต่ที่มาที่กล่าวมานี้เป็นที่มาเพียงส่วนหนึ่งที่คนมุสลิมเลือกที่จะจำไว้แต่ยังมีประวัติศาสตร์ที่เป็นความจริงอีกส่วนที่คนมุสลิมไม่อยากจดจำไว้และอยากให้คนทั้งโลกลืมมันไปด้วย แต่ความจริงก็ยังคงเป็นความจริงอยู่เสมอ เมื่อคนในศาสนาอื่นๆ ต่างก็รู้ดีอยู่ว่าอัลเลาะห์นั้นมีบิดาป็นสุนัข แต่คนมุสลิมเลือกที่จะจำประวัติศาสตร์เพียงบางส่วนของตัวเอง
ประวัติศาสตร์ที่คนมุสลิมรู้สึกอับอายและรู้สึกไร้ค่าในความเป็นมุสลิม มีเรื่องราวอยู่ว่ามีเจ้าชายและเจ้าหญิงคู่หนึ่งได้อภิเษกสมรสกัน และทั้งคู่ทรงโปรดปรานการเลี้ยงสุนัข และมีสุนัขเพศผู้อยู่ตัวหนึ่งที่ทั้งสองโปรดปรานเป็นพิเศษ แต่หลังจากใช้ชีวิตคู่อยู่ด้วยกันได้ไม่นาน เจ้าชายก็ต้องจากบ้านเมืองไปออกรบ เวลาผ่านไปแล้วผ่านไปเล่าเจ้าชายก็ยังไม่กลับมา ทิ้งให้เจ้าหญิงต้องอยู่กับความเหงาความว้าเหว่ และแล้วเจ้าหญิงก็ทนความว้าเหว่ของตนเองไม่ไหวจึงได้นำสุนัขร่างใหญ่ที่เป็นสุนัขตัวโปรด มาบำเรอความสุขของตนเอง คืนแล้วคืนเล่าเจ้าหญิงต้องบำบัดความใคร่ของตนด้วยการตกเป็นเมียของสุนัขตัวนั้น และในเวลาต่อมาเจ้าหญิงก็ทรงตั้งครรภ์โดยที่เจ้าชายก็ยังไม่กลับมา ทำให้ราษฎรเกิดความสงสัยและในเวลาต่อมาเจ้าหญิงก็ทรงให้กำเนิดบุตรออกมาเป็นผู้ชายมีนามว่าอัลเลาะห์ เมื่ออัลเลาะห์มีอายุมากขึ้นก็เกิดความสงสัยว่าพ่อของตนเองอยู่ที่ไหนทำไมตนเองไม่มีพ่อเหมือนเด็กคนอื่น และเมื่อสบโอกาศอัลเลาะห์ก็ได้ถามเจ้าหญิงซึ่งเป็นมารดาของตนว่าพ่อของเขาอยู่ที่ไหนท่ามกลางบรรดาข้าราชบริพารที่นั่งอยู่ในราชวัง เจ้าหญิงเกิดอาการตกใจและเห็นว่าถึงเวลาแล้วที่จะบอกความจริงให้อัลเลาะห์รู้ เจ้าหญิงไม่พูดแต่ชี้มือไปทางสุนัขตัวโปรดตัวนั้น ทำให้อัลเลาะห์รู้สึกอับอายและโกรธแค้นเป็นอย่างมาก จึงได้สั่งให้ทหารฆ่าสุนัขตัวนั้นซึ่งเป็นพ่อของอัลเลาะห์เอง เมื่อพ่อของเขาตาย(สุนัข) อัลเลาะห์ก็เกิดความรู้สึกสำนึกผิดที่สั่งฆ่าพ่อของตัวเองจึงนำใส้ของสุนัขตัวนั้นมาพันไว้บนศรีษะ และนำศพของสุนัขตัวนั้นไปขุดหลุมฝังและสร้างสถูปครอบเอาไว้ ซึ่งสถานที่ฝังศพนั้นก็คือสถานที่ที่ชาวมุสลิมทั่วโลกต่างไปละหมาดกันเมื่อถึงเดือนรอมดอน ในปัจจุบันก็คือเมืองเมกกะนั่นเอง และอัลเลาะห์ซึ่งได้ครองราชในเวลาต่อมาก็ได้สั่งให้ราษฎรของตนโพกผ้าหรือสวมหมวกไว้บนศรีษะเพื่อเป็นการระลึกถึงสุนัขตัวนั้นที่เป็นพ่อของอัลเลาะห์เองและห้ามราษฎรของตนเลี้ยงและเข้าใกล้สุนัขเป็นอันขาด ซึ่งคนมุสลิมทั่วโลกก็ได้ถือปฏิบัติกันมาจนถึงปัจจุบัน
ซึ่งแสดงให้เห็นว่าศาสนาอิสลามถือกำเนิดมาจากสุนัขนั่นเอง ซึ่งคนศาสนาอื่นก็รู้รวมทั้งมุสลิมทุกคนก็รู้ แต่ไม่ยอมรับที่มาของตนเองว่าพวกเขามีศาสดาที่ถือกำเนิดมาจากสุนัข

I'm surprised moslems don't put 2 and 2 together and realise that alllah is in fact satan himself. satan as we know, is the opposite of God. Satan comes only to lie, deceive, kill and make war. Hmm, just like allah! Reading the Koran, it states that allah and his angels dish out the punishment in hell. That's odd.in the Bible it's satan and the fallen angels who reside in hell, not God and His holy angels. What does that tell us. Why does allah spend so much of his time in hell (again, read the koran to see how much time he spends there). God spends no time in Hell, yet allah is always there. allah also tells his followers to act out certain pagan (satanic) rituals. Why would God do this when satan is His adversary. There is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that allah is satan himself. Everything about islam is to do with hatred, lying, deception, killing, making war not only on the non moslems but other moslems. Everything in islam is opposite to Christianity. What is good to us (true peace, love our neighbours, give to true charities) is is bad to moslems. What they see as 'good' is funding terrorism, celebrating killings of non moslems, and killing in the name of allah.allah says this is the best deed a person can do. God on the other hand says that killing is a sin. All the things forbidden on earth and seen as imoral on earth, allah says are available in his 'paradise' (non stop sex with not only women, but young boys, drinking) allah discribes his 'paradise' as very carnal. God tells us that Heaven is not carnal that we will be 'as the angels (that is, have no need or want for carnal human needs). Allah's 'paradise' is nothing but a disgusting brothel and allah is the head whore master or pimp.
There are so many clues in the koran that point to allah being satan. I can't believe that moslems can't see this themselves. God tells us in the Bible that the time will come when our enemies kill us using the name of God yet they will kill us for satan. Moslems, as we know call out to allah before a homicide attack and call out to him after cutting someone's head off. Satan is just using them to do his dirty work.

Good reply. However it still does not solve the problems most young apostates especially women face. Anyway Ali you response was very good, imaculate and to the point as always.

Congratulations on the new (and improved) website.
Dear IamFound

Welcome to the wonderful world sans Islam.

I dont know if we are allowed to wish you New Years- it is a pagan holiday. But anyway let me wish you happiness and contentment this year and always.

“At this season of the Winter Solstice may reason prevail. There are no gods, no devils, no angels, no heaven or hell. There is only our natural world. Religion is but myth and superstition that hardens hearts and enslaves minds.“

DISCLAIMER...PS: I apologise to the Atheist community if I have wrongly used the Winter Solstice for celebration. I know this day has no special significance for us. It is a day like any other. It can neither harm us nor benefit us in any way.

why is it that no one on this website talks about israel's war crimes?

I may make it easier to stay outside Islam to pay a visit to www.1000mistakes@hotmail.com . No book with that many clear and easy to see mistaken facts, so much wrong/invalid logic, etc., is made by a god - not to mention an omniscient god.

That means Islam is a "religion" not made by a god. And what value does such a "religion" have? At best zero. At best.

Sorry: A misprinting: The first word above shold be "It" not "I"

This site is about Islam. The root cause of Israel Arab conflict lies in the sayings and examples set by Muhammad. He hated the Jews because they did not believe in his lies. As the result his followers also hate the Jews without even knowing why.

Jews want to live. They did not care about forming their own nation. In fact many Jewish reformers in the 18th century were saying that Germany is their new Zion and that that Jews wherever they live should adopt that country as their homeland. That idea was shattered when Hitler exterminated the Jews and Muslims supported him unanimously. It became clear that Jews had to have their own homeland so the holocaust could not happen again.

They were right. Today with the rise of the number of Muslims in Europe, Jews are once again under attack and many shameless Europeans, including their leftist fascist media take the side of the Arabs who spread anti Semitism with the mass media. So it is clear that Jews need their country.

You say why in Palestine? Because Palestine is the ancestral land of the Jews, 2000 years before Muslims conquer that land, Palestine belonged to the Jews. Arabs in Palestine are newcomers. They are originally from Egypt and Jordan. If they can’t live in peace with the owners of the land, they should go back to where they came from. Israelis have no other choice but to defend themselves. They have nowhere to go. And to defend themselves they have to kill those who want to kill them.

There are a few solutions to this conflict. One solution is that Arabs go back to where they or their ancestors came from. The other solution is that they leave Islam and accept the Jews as fellow humans and start coexisting with them without hate and animosity. The third solution is to fight, kill and get killed. As stupid as Muslims are they have chosen the third option because the other two options are unIslamic. Muslims cannot accept Jews as their aulya. This goes against their religion.

If you want war you get war. If any politician in the Arab word says we should accept Israel’s right to exist and make permanent peace with them he will be finished, if not killed. What happened to Anwar Sadaat? Muslims don’t want peace.

You want war? You got it. But don’t cry when you lose. If you want to be a warrior at least die like one. But Muslims are not warriors. They are coward terrorists.

Dear All happy to be back! Liked the new look of FFI, though our moscums remain thwe same every where.Stupid, gutless, ignnorant,Arrogant,braindead ete etc,
I have always insisted that the kafirs should know as much about Islam if not more than the moscums know.Simple way to defeat enemy is to your enemy better.Read qran.I know it is vile, bilious, violent, boring etc.But nevertheless read qran.Happy times ahead

nice feedback, more power to ffi and to all contributors here

To Mr.Ali Sina,

Arabs, as you said should go back to where they came from. Definitely arabs are not coming from Egypt. Arabs invaded Egypt 1400 years ago...! Arabs in Israel have the choice to leave and go back to where their ancestors came from... i.e. what is called today Saudi Arabia...!

excellent resonse from alisina.I have seen thie site accidentally .Since then i am so fascinaed by the noble work of alisina and humnaity saving work of him.Each line of his article is informative.I was addicted to this site.One should well understand root cause of the problem of terrorism and voilence that has been for centuries .

Muhaimin

"As you all know, Islam brings peace. We’re not bombing and attack anyone without reason. There must be a reason. This is normal if you have reason to fight for. Let’s say you own a land. Then some people from nowhere comes to your place and take it from you without any reason. Are you guys going to sit down and cry or are you going to fight for it?"

I don't care about what excuse you for attacking and bombing people, there is no excuse to justify violence ( unless there is no other alternative ). There are other ways of handling the situation besides using violence. By the way the Jews have been returning to Israel whenever the opportunity presented itself for centuries and it was the British who gave Israel to the Jews.

"Jews is only for jews. No other race can embrace jews religion and be a rabbi. Jews caourage its people to kill and rape other than jews."

Not that is not true. People are allowed to convert to Judaism, even though Judaism does not proselytize. By the way I am a Christian and my grandmother was Jewish.

To Ben

n my opinion when push comes to shove, the only thing not permitted under Islam is polytheism (but Muslim is allowed to pretend to worship another god just to trick people);

Islam prohibits the right to freedom of religion, which is only Islam is allowed to bear hegemony over the entire world and the followers are other religions are to be treated like sh*t.

"It is clear that for Muslims in the west they generally follow the “peaceful” side of Islam and the Muslims in the east generally follow more the ‘war” part of Islam."

No that is not true. Muslims in the west congregate together and form no-go zones ( nonmuslims are prohibited from entering these areas ) rape western women, beat their wives, perform honor killings, and exc. Nowhere in the world is Islam peaceful.

Other then I don't agree with some points you made, your commentary is excellent.

freedomfighter67

Muslims are the ones occupying Israel not Palestinians. Palestinians or Philistines dissapeared long time ago when David beheaded their best fighter named Goliath.

Yup the Palestians are long gone. No one living in the area is of Palestinian origin. Most people are Arab-Muslims that were sent there by the British to populate the land.

I am a christian but what you guys are saying is a bunch of lie. you need to repent for this. i think this web purposely built to destroy islam

In response to Raakshas:
Ali Sinna approach is vital for the success in eradicating Islam. We cannot take a confrontational approach through mainstream media because;
1.Any writer who presents his view will be destroyed eventually by Muslim fanatics...eg Theo van Gogh who was killed in Nov 2004, Thaslima Nazreen from BanglaDesh who is threatened with death Fatwa or Jyllands Posten Muhammed Cartoons which received universal protests and mayhem. Many thousands or millions who protested in the past have been just killed all over the world especially during the barbaric Islamic conquests.
2.All Muslims have been almost brainwashed into the idea that the prophet is the most perfect human to walk this earth and to dispel this myth takes a very long time and can only be done by exposing the absurdities in the Koran.
3.Most humans in the world cannot believe such a prophet who was a pedophile, rapist, plunderer, misogynist, torturer and murderer could have existed and they will not believe because even normal ordinary humans rarely behave in such a vile manner, what to say of a prophet?
4.Most communities around the world have been peace loving and had been decent societies but the introduction of Islam has changed the mindset. Look at Indian Muslims, Malays, Indonesians, Pakistanis, Afghans, Iranians and others, they have been transformed into fundamentalists living in the 6th century and willing to KILL to safeguard Islam. In such a scenario can the mainstream media tackle this problem? It would actually be suicide. Many of our friends are Muslims and those who are not so close to the hearth of Islam are decent people and by us confronting their values openly we cannot live peacefully but face protests and mayhem everyday.
Therefore the FFI has done a wonderful job over the years to educate the non believers and the believers on the truth of Islam. Many such sites are being replicated and soon it would be impossible for people not to see this media and in fact this may soon become the mainstream media. It needs much effort and at least the non Muslims need to be educated on the true facets of Islam. Even great souls like Gandhi and others did not know the true side of Islam. There are many good people who are also Islamists but they are good because humans are generally reasonable but the twisted ideology of Islam is preventing them from seeing the true Islam. It is almost unbelievable that such a vile personality could have ever existed so how can Muslims accept this fact?

Let's keep on the educational Jihad

Dear Iamfound,

I read your article and would like to narrate my experience.

It is very normal or part of growing process that one gets agitated or disturbed in life. Your values change and you ask questions on what you believe. This is very normal and I think the right direction to grow. These are the indications that you are heading in right direction.

Caution : Do not let yourself get into negative thoughts and do not seek solace in religion or superstition. Just stay calm and tell yourself that you will emerge stronger after this turmoil.

I promise you once your this phase of life is over you will be a changed person with better outlook towards this life and when you will look back it you will reliase that this difficult time has been a tremendous teacher.

Best of Luck

I think Raakshasa was being too unkind on Ali Sina. I think Ali Sina is a
brilliant intellectual whi has to be admired for his courage and clarity of mind.
As a Hindu atheist (Naastik), I would ask Raakshas to practise what he preaches. Let him speak his mind without fear to the Indian media or
whatever media he can access. Why don't more Hindus get out and expose Islam for what it is - why don't they tell the truth about the barbarism of the Islamic conquests in India. Why are so many Hindus protecting Islam?
Why are atheist communists protecting Islam? Why are Christians defending Islam?

We are all guilty of not doing enough. Ali Sina is doing a great job and he
has all my admiration. Best wishes and in solidarity.

Dear Iamfound,

If anything else fails, try Jesus Christ.

No, don't try christianity. No point in freeing yourself from one absurdity only to become the prisoner of another.

"No, don’t try christianity. No point in freeing yourself from one absurdity only to become the prisoner of another."

But that is a choice he has to make himself.

Ali Sina,
I cannot thank you enough for your response to my post. I was in tears by the time I was finished reading it: Everything made sense. I guess all I was looking for was a way to get rid of the dark hole that I was falling into. I will be seeing my doctor soon to see if I have a case of depression.
To Marie: I've read about all the religions. I find that organized religions do nothing but stunt a person's growth in a modern society.
By the way, I'm a girl. :-P

Thank you again for your article, it has definitely cleared up a lot for me.
-IaF.

Excellent response from Dr. Sina. Iamfound, I remember reading your testimony on leaving Islam recently at the old site and it disappeared as with all the other posts in the last part of December, it would be great if you can post it again on the new forum.

Hats Off Mr Sina .Thanks to you for such a wonderful response .

To: Michael above. Greetings. you wrote "I am a christian but what you guys are saying is a bunch of lie. you need to repent for this. i think this web purposely built to destroy islam"
Well..thank you for letting us all know. We thought this site was here to destroy the civilized world, and maybe the Martian culture too. But since you told us, now we know.

Dear IamFound

You can visit brother Richard Dawkins' website.
Please also visit

http://atheistmovies.blogspot.com/
http://richarddawkins.net/

There is a wealth of information there. They are very informative, enlightening, and entertaining.

Best wishes to you and I am glad you have chosen Atheism over other superstitious, fairytale beliefs. You have done well and you are in good company. There is a direct corelation between intelligence and atheism, so you must be a smart person too. :-) BTW, I am an ex-muslim convert to Atheism.

Mr. Shivir, hindus of Bharat are so much mortally afraid of the brutal power of Muslims as to acknowledge that almost a billion hindu vegetables cannot fight with 400 million satanic muslims (including from Porkistan & Bangladesh) and expect to win the war. Father of the Nation Mahatma Gandhi's 'ahimsa' or non-violence made hindus good for nothing for more than half a century. So are the congressmen and communists, they are also afraid of muslims and as a result pamper them for their votes. Muslims are taught the terror manual, Quran, in madrassas since childhood and draw srength from satanic versus directly whereas hindus are not taught their scriptures that call for rightousness and peace to all mankind.

Vaisakhan is perfectly correct.I endorse his conclusion.great pl.

hey sweetle!!
just wanted to say when everything fails, try Jesus Christ. you will find peace in HIM. He is waiting for you desperately...
Jesus loves u
blessings
C

To Violet:
That testimony actually took me a very long time to write, because I kept editing it to make it an appropriate length for readers... I don`t have that kind of time now, because of school...
The old forum says that most posts will be re-published in the new forum. If my testimony doesn`t make it, I`ll find the time on a weekend to re-write it.
Thanks for reading it :-)

-IaF

Vaisakhan,

Please go and read about the history and refresh yourself. Indians are not afraid of the Muslims. We have defeated them in the all open wars they have fought against us. And you know how many Pakistani armies surrender in front of the Indian army? More than 90000 soldiers surrendered in front of us.

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R_3vmViFrw)

It is the BIGGEST surrender of any army in the war till date. And mind you it is a WORLD RECORD till date. Pakistan Army simply could not stand in front of us. If they think otherwise I would love to see them to give up support to terrorism and come on face to face with us.

The only reason, why we are fighting with Pakistan, because we believe in peace not WAR. Otherwise we could have attacked them as Israel has done and you know what would be result this time.

Pakistan would wiped out of world map

One last comment, I promise I won't come back to this site again
(at least I will try not to), because the day I started reading about Islam history, my hatred filling about Muslims/Islam has increased and my religion doesn't teaches me to hate other religion and I want to seriously stop it and I mean it.

I must say, Muslims are insane from day one. From day one they are forcing peoples to adapt Islam; they adapted all dirty tricks to force non-Muslims to convert to Islam

- collecting Jizya Tax to convert poor Hindus/Jews/ other religion to the fold of Islam because this tax could not be imposed on Muslims and when they will not be able to pay tax we will offer Muslims will offer them to convert to Islam so that they don't have to pay the Tax.

- All non Muslims criminal are given option to convert to Islam and there sins will be forbidden

- Or be it destroying the holy places of one religion and creating your own mosques on it be it al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem or Babri Masjid in Ayodhya. Where every Muslims have gone, they have harmed the religion of that part of the world and this is the one of the reason why, they are seen with the hatred eyes all around the world

If your Religion is so great then why the hell in the earth you have to apply such dirty tricks to convert people to Islam, aren’t there better ways to spread Islam.

So if any Muslim is reading this post, your ancestor could be either very poor and could not pay the tax or criminals who adapted to Islam to walk free from all of their sins and this could be the reason why you are adapting terrorism today because your ancestor were criminals.

Back to main point read about the GREAT surrender from the mouth of a Pak solider

http://www.genocidebangladesh.org/?p=405

"By the way, I’m a girl. :-P"

Sorry.

I am a stupid piece of shit Muslim. I love to fuck my own sisters and mothers..........hahaaaaaa

Thanks PK. I was so depressed at the way hindus again voted Congress to power in certain states. Who doesn't know it is because of Congress that majority hindus have always been discriminated against the so called minorities in all walks of life for their votes. I am so angry at congress for (1) At the time of partition they didn't sent all muslims to Porkistan; they should have sent all muslims to Porkistan and taken in all hindus residing in Porkistan (2) When we won 1971 war it was the appropriate time to settle Kashmir issue, but congress didn't do anything toward that end. They should have expelled all muslims from NE to Bangladesh and taken all hindus in from BD thereby avoiding their torture by jihadis . Congress didn't do that. (3) Congress profess secularism i.e. law must be the same for all Indians irrespective of religion, region, caste, creed or color. Again congress failed, majority has no rights whereas so called minority are given many privilages. (4) Family Planning, only applicable to hindus; 4 five and 20 childred for a muslim thus increasing their population from 10% at partition to 13+% now. (5) At this 13+% they can create havoc in Bharat what about if it increases to 20%?. (6) Islam is allowed to be taught in thousands and thousands of madrassas to breed jihadis whereas Hindus are not allowed to learn their scriptures. There is no system for hindus to know their religion thereby leading them to the salughterhouse of jihadis and missionaries. These are some irritants that caused me to write what I wrote.

ChampionofIslam,

Ha ha ha ha , you sounded a joker to me....

At one point you are saying "We all know how the Muslims and Jews of Jerusalem were butchered by the French and English imperialistic"

And in same article you are saying
"Palestine belonged to the Arabs. These Jewish scum muscled their way in"

I guess you haven’t read Quaran..... HOW CAN YOU FOLLOW YOU RELIGIAN, IF YOU DONT HAVE ANY KNOWLASGE ON IT.? YOU POOR MUSLIMS... GOD CAN HELP YOU

Quaran only say that Mohammad dreamed about the al-Aqsa Mosque and he attacked towards Jerusalem and Muslims rulers win the Jerusalem after 60 years of Mohammad Death,

It proves that Jerusalem was not belonged to Muslims they concur it and now Israel is only taking it back from you and now you cry about Israel War Crimes. Didn't your own Mohammad commit War Crimes when he was concurring Jerusalem. Now you are on the other side of the coin...you are feeling bad...didn't Jews passed from this feeling when you attacked them.....
Buddy history is repeating itself it is just that you are at receiving end of it now.

Think about it...

Vaisakhan,

I mean there is other side to what you wrote. I mean Indians could have done what you said but that would have made them like Porkistan. At lest, now you can keep your chin up and say you are not like Porkis, YOU ARE INDIAN

But I wish Indians have done what you said because I personally believe that Terrorist only understand terrorism and to kill Terrorist you need to Terrorize them back. Like Israel is doing, that’s why I'm BIG fan of Israel

Go ahead brave girl and do not look back.Time will prove that you have made the right decsion.

go back to islam.it's about faith,dont let these kaffirs pull u in.believe even when they dont.

Hey IamFound,

Ali Sina has known Islam from WITHIN, while I come from a belief system which is not institutionalized. So, he is best suited to suggest ways how to deal with your struggle within.

One can be an atheist without inviting ire of fellow followers of the belief system I am born in, AND without becoming fuel-for-hell to some God/Allah.

Take it this way. Earlier you walked on crutches of your belief system.. now, you walk on your own legs. And using your own legs requires desire, stamina, will, resolve and determination. You don't have to be a braggart to advertise this change in you. Keep them within.

At the end, Islam will fall flat on its chest. It is a religon based on lies,muder,sex,rape,incest,pedophilla. The only thing missing is alcohol. Wonder Why !!!!!